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jimmyjazz

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  1. For me Foo Fighters were a welcome surprise after Cobain's suicide.  I took his death hard -- the only "rock" death that was more devastating to me was Stevie Ray's.  One always got the sense that Grohl was a pretty musical guy beyond drums, mostly because he's sing backing vocals now and again, but that first album knocked me out.  I've somewhat lost interest in the band over the last decade, but I still love their shows.  

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  2. 37 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

    Nobody jailed for the financial crisis, but look he slow jams the news with Jimmy Fallon!!11!1!1

    Wait, are you suggesting Obama had something to do with the financial crisis?

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  3. 2 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

    He definitely is being helped by recency bias and because he was sandwiched between W and Trump.  Yes, the economy didn’t completely melt down on his watch, he didn’t get us in the biggest military quagmire since Vietnam for nothing, and he’s not an embarrassing, deranged, manchild idiot who is openly corrupt.  But that’s a really low bar.

    Uh . . . the economy (and especially the stock market) was in the shitter when he came on board.  Look at it now.  He nominated a solid candidate for SCOTUS and got stonewalled.  He may not have been the greatest commander in chief, but he got some things done, and can definitely be criticized for a few things there, too.

    He eclipsed your "low bar" by a fucking mile.

  4. This is probably sacrilege for some, but I never liked Velvet Underground anway.  Plus, Bowie & Charlie Sexton.  And what appears to be Peter Frampton, relegated to the shadows (and I think it pissed him off).

     

     

  5. 5 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

    Quietly but not insignificantly, at least 3 major media outlets now have reported that Don Jr, Kushner, and Erik Prince all lied to Congress.

    Let me guess, Fake News Network, Not The Truth Network, and Liars Network?

  6. 4 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

    Those kids did--the article's about kids taken last year.  It's only recently, though, that the US government started a policy of taking kids from their parents.  So, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, the kids now being separated from their parents are being put in that same system in which we've been somehow "misplacing" 20% of them.

    Understood and agreed.  In theory, HHS is putting measures in place to help track every kid better, but they're already late and with this administration, I would not expect much positive effort.

  7. I get that.  There is also a mountain of research out there that indicates that there isn't a large correlation with diagnosed or even observable mental illness among mass shooters.  I see memes where a litany of medications are attributed to various people, and I have no idea if those are accurate, but do a little googling and you will find plenty of legit researchers at highly respected institutions saying that the correlation just isn't very strong.  It's about as far as I want to delve into exploring the topic, because I only have so many hours in the day, but it was convincing enough to me.

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  8. 8 minutes ago, HoustonHorn said:

    Maybe so, enlighten me.

    I'm no doctor, so I'm not interested in getting out over my own skis.  I will say I've been counseled to recognize anger as a potential symptom of depression, but that anger can also manifest without depression, and that the neurological responses to the two can be quite different.

  9. 1 minute ago, HoustonHorn said:

    I do think it is relevant though because while your cousin was depressed and killed himself, others take those same thoughts and kill others, at an especially high rate in the United States compared to others.

    Uh, no.  There is very little correlation between depression and mass shootings.  Anger, yes.  Depression, not so much.

  10. I'm pretty sure most people would be on board with a reduction suicides.  What many are not on board with is funding the research and outreach efforts to actually accomplish this.

    Regardless, it might make a great thread.  <hint>

  11. 7 minutes ago, HoustonHorn said:

    Do you blame the gun, or Academy, the fact he was obviously suffering a depression so severe he felt the best way out was to kill himself, or family/friends who didn't recognize his dire situation, or maybe the external factors in the world that led to his depression?

    To blame the gun would be silly.  (This does not change my argument that access to guns is too easy.)

    I don't blame Academy, as there was nothing disqualifying him for the purchase of the gun.

    Of course his depression was the overriding factor.  Family & friends did just about as much as they could.  I have no idea about "external factors" -- he was your average kid, not a jock, had a couple of learning issues, etc.  Creative.  Dark at times.  Undergoing treatment.  What more can I say?

    It's something that a waiting period might have mitigated.  It's not really the topic of this thread.

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  12. 1 minute ago, Art Vandelay said:

    That's well meaning but it doesn't sound like there's any evidence it has much statistical effect on overall gun violence. There is however some evidence it has an effect on suicides.

    Perhaps I'm sensitive, as my nephew went to Academy, purchased a shotgun, and blew his head off.

  13. Just now, SmokeyBear1861 said:

    All the safety regulations prevented accidents, but didn't prevent the ability of someone with a motive to use the vehicle to kill people. 

    It's almost as if you're OK with safety regulations being partially effective, yet you demand that gun regulations be 100% effective.  Wonder why that is?  Hmmm.

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