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TKthunder2

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  1. Colorado is what it is. You can’t derive value out of them long term for Colorado or the Big 12. When BY presents his numbers with the Prime years included in them the first thing the networks will do is strip them out or discard those years altogether because it’s not representative of the value you’re paying for in their new contract. Now if Prime stay and finds the next Travis Hunter and continues to draw 4million viewers against FCS teams and 3 million against G5 teams for years to come then they will count. But for now those just aren’t representative. After 4 weeks, other than Colorado who accounted for every 3 million+ viewers thus far, the FOX games have driven 5 of the 10 2 million+ games. ABC 1, ESPN 1, CBS 2, NBC 1. Repeating myself but this exposure with FOX is the biggest advantage the Big 12 has. They should be doing everything they can to take advantage of it. 3 rivalry games account for that too placement on NBC/CBS, a matchup with the SEC got them on ABC. The traditional conference games will primarily end up on FOX and ESPN. The Big 12 should continue to pursue more rivalry OOC games. Bedlam, Border War, Backyard Brawl, etc would enhance and boost their profile. If the goal is a bigger TV deal next time around, this is a major opportunity toward that. Teams with 2million+ games Colorado: 4 Oklahoma St, Utah, Baylor: 2 ISU, KSU, AZ, WVU: 1 Nothing too shocking other than Baylor in this list (likely just because they played Colorado and Utah but facts are facts) The “Late” window has been used 5 out of the 6 weeks scheduled and I expect this to be a common theme for the new Big 12 when the 4corner schools play a lack luster game at home. They pull a million or so which is a good way to prop up a below average game with inflated viewership to help the overall picture. The Big 12 also has had 6 weeknight games (mostly Friday) with another scheduled for next week. Colorado’s kick off game pulled ridiculous numbers, but other than them AZ/KSU on FOX did a respectable 2.5 million while the other averaged about 1.14 million.
  2. Big 12 got a new deal with CBS for basketball. https://awfulannouncing.com/cbs/big-12-multiyear-agreement-mens-college-basketball-games.html
  3. Gonna make your wifey preggers and grab her natty tuddies
  4. PAC7 and MWC7…just so dumb
  5. If there is a Taylor Doyle celebration thread on shaggy you all should be ashamed of yourselves. I was pissed off when he made that offer.
  6. So what are the Big 12’s secondary teams that are on the same level as Oregon or Auburn? Because I can’t think of any. That’s the part I don’t agree with. In a mock draft of college football teams I think you’d see more what you call 3rd tier SEC and Big Ten team come off the board before you get to the first Big 12 selection.
  7. If they fired him, what are the odds he goes to Tulane next? It’s like he’s Benjamin Buttoning his own career reliving his greatest hits… 1983 Appalachian State 1985–1987 Tulane 1988–1997 North Carolina 1998–2013 Texas 2019–2024? North Carolina ?2024-2026 Tulane…? Appalachian State better watch out
  8. You’re correct, bad memory on my part.
  9. It’s not always bullshit, here just a few historical examples: Texas couldn’t leave aggy for the SEC back in the late 80s and then had to take Tech as a tagalong when we tried going to the Big8. Virginia Tech got into the ACC over Syracuse (who was the first choice) due to politics, and the only reason UNC isn’t suing the ACC currently is also politics. Alabama and Auburn were forced to play each other after 40 years due to the state legislature which is why even 60 years later, Auburn remained in the SEC West after adding two members West of the Mississippi River, and Missouri ended up in the SEC East despite being West of the majority of SEC West members. The State of Louisiana blocked the University of Louisiana from upgrading to FBS for year and then only allowed it if they changed their branding to Louisiana Lafayette and also upgraded along with Northeast Louisiana who they made them change their branding to Louisiana Monroe so people wouldn’t think ULL was the flagship over LSU and because Louisiana Tech was worried about being perceived as a weaker football program in the state. Just because it’s not 100%, doesn’t mean it’s not real.
  10. Then they have to play them. Not easy to kick members out. They want Utah St and UNLV but don’t want to pay that ridiculous penalty for poaching them. UConn gets them to 8 temporarily, and once that penalty expires they can poach for free and then kick out UConn since they are not a full member.
  11. The schedule was made based on winning percentage in SEC conference games (Big 12 for UT/OU) Texas face 4 teams in the top half of the SEC in winning percentages from 2012-2022: UGA, OU, UF, aggy aggy faces 4 as well: LSU, UF, Texas, Auburn OU faces four as well: Bama, LSU, Texas, Auburn The major difference in the schedule, which is impossible to take into account is which team that is normally good is not so good (UF/Aub are bad, OU/aggy/LSU are questionable) and which team that is normally not so good is having a good year (Mizzou, Ole Miss, Tennessee). Other than Auburn and maybe LSU, the top teams on Oklahoma’s schedule are still good and they caught all the not so good teams peaking at the wrong time. Other than UGA, Texas does not have any of the other historically good teams firing on all cylinders, and all the not so good teams are still not so good. The methodology is sounds and not biased, even if the outcome is unequal, but unless you’re making the schedule only 6 months in advance, it’s impossible to have balanced schedules.
  12. Yes, Air Force wants the money, UNLV agreed in principle because it puts it out there that time is ticking. SJSU, Wyoming, Reno and New Mexico ain’t getting invites. These 4 schools are pushing the other 3 for their commitment because its the only way it could force the PAC12 to merge with them. A full merger is the only way those four will be invited. If the PAC12 gets to 8 members then the game is over. UConn football is just a bargaining chip. It’s a short term filler to get them to 8 fb teams with Utah State. They could use Hawaii but they’d have to pay the MWC a fee for them. They’d have to get a basketball team but there are some easy options out there if they can’t land Gonzaga.
  13. TV market, recruiting, competitiveness. They’ve moved out of the basement and are now a solid program over the last five years or so. New Mexico, Nevada-Reno, and Hawaii have been the recent stinkers. Utah St, UNLV, and San Jose fit the mold of what the other PAC schools are. edit: 5 years
  14. This is really the best option now, if they can’t get Memphis and their pals. WSU/OSU just need to accept their new place in the MWC and enjoy their $100 million payout.
  15. They aren’t choosing to stay. They politically have trouble leaving Nevada-Reno. Rumor is Reno stopped investing in athletics after they got the MWC invite and has done next to nothing to improve. That has irritated the MWC members so they don’t want to invite them and UNLV can’t easily leave them. If the PAC gets to 7, I assume they would give UNLV an ultimatum, join now or never, which might give them enough cover to leave Reno. I’d bet if they stay on this path that UNLV will be #8.
  16. Once the others declare their intent to leave they can’t vote to dissolve. The only way they get out of the fees now is if they do a full merger. Also San Jose State is a VERY attractive member. The only reason they likely weren’t included is that they think they might get Cal and Stanford back who would NOT want to share a conference with SJSU who they think is basically a JUCO.
  17. Mississippi State is one of only three teams in the SEC that Texas does NOT have a winning record against. Can you guess the other two?
  18. Sounds like they did all of this just to get away from Nevada-Reno (because apparently they have just stopped investing as much in athletics after they got the MWC invite) and San Jose St (because they think they have a one in a million chance at getting Cal or Stanford back). New Mexico and Wyoming are well liked institutions but in small markets which probably hurt their projected per school payout from a new TV deal. No one seems to have an issue with Air Force at all, and they could drop Hawaii at anytime since they are not a full member. So the PAC12 is paying out around $200 million in order to get rid of 4 members only a single one of which the other teams seem not to like. WSU/OSU could have joined the MWC and kept that $100 million windfall and had the best facilities and NIL in the conference for the next decade and keep them in conversation annually for a playoff spot that could possibly turn into a P4 invite… But instead, they chose this rebuild the PAC12 path where they will pay out a bunch of money to “lesser” schools and be in a conference of their peers that will have more motivated fan/donor support while WSU/OSU fans/alumni are still sad and unmotivated, which in turn will push WSU/OSU to the middle of the pack where they fall into even further obscurity. Which would have been the better investment?
  19. IIRC (and I could be a bit out of date but I’m not going to look these up manually) AAC $11 million per school MWC $ 8 million per SBC/MAC $3 million CUSA $2 million edit: used ChatGPT and updated my numbers which were close enough
  20. The MWC will likely have nearly $200 million in exit fees to distribute. I assume Air Force would likely want their share of that money before they bolt. They already play Army/Navy every year so no real reason to rush. If the American conference is holding together, then the PAC will go after Utah State first as their 7th members, then offer UNLV the final 8th spot in hopes that gives them enough cover the breakaway from Nevada-Reno. That would put the PAC12 at 8 teams: Boise St, Colorado St, Fresno St, Oregon St, San Diego St, UNLV, Utah St, and Washington St Then the Mountain West would be down to 5 full members plus Hawaii football only: Air Force, Nevada-Reno, New Mexico, San Jose St, Wyoming, and Hawaii football They need to add 3 full members, 2 of which must have football. UTEP and New Mexico St are the obvious candidates but the MWC has been dismissive of them for the last 20 years so they may think they are “too good” for them. But then again, beggars can’t be choosers. FCS Sacramento State University has been lobbying for a spot as they want to move to FBS. I also assume (if Utah St is truly gone) that WAC FCS schools Utah Tech (formerly Dixie St) and Southern Utah might get a look too. There might be a non football school like Utah Valley which could be added to offset Hawaii if they want to keep their membership/footprint tight.
  21. They have a large corporate sponsor with FedEx and their NIL game is one of the best in the G5. I mean outside of the service academies, who else East of Texas really moves the football needle now in the G5: USF…Tulane…East Carolina??? Just not a lot of great options.
  22. Houston does not belong in that meme.
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