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TKthunder2

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  1. I’m not claiming this thought layout is perfect, it’s just my general way of thinking about the leagues. While I know we all have some bias here but I think bumping Miami (who has a BCS championship and played in 4 BCS bowls) down and Kentucky/South Carolina (who have never played in a BCS/NY6 bowl) up just isn’t going to sit right with me (Arkansas at least made a BCS Sugar Bowl once). I’d be more likely to bump up Ole Miss or Mizzou if I had to move anyone up. Regardless, my main point is that no other teams are going to add value to the SEC. If they want to ever expand it will be dilutive unless they do it along with FSU/Clemson. Take those and then go after UNC/UVA to complete the footprint and claim DC to KC and DFW to ATL and everything near and in between. There isn’t much the Big Ten could do to fight that even if they went all in on Miami, Georgia Tech, Duke, NCSU, and Virginia Tech. FSU/Clemson along with adding Texas/OU in this last round more than offset any perceived lack of strength from adding the flagship’s of Tobacco Road.
  2. The conference is still claiming Texas and Oklahoma’s national titles but have scrubbed how many conference championships we won from their main webpage and wiki page. They did not do this when the other members left…wonder why? https://big12sports.com/news/2011/6/1/205160610.aspx https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_Conference
  3. Saw them run 10 year old footage of Johnny football in the montage a few times so they should be happy.
  4. Depends on what you’re counting I guess. When was the last time either of those played for a conference title or had a team with playoff potential late in the season? I just don’t see much of a difference between those programs. If we’re counting resources I assume aggy would be towards the top of the list but I don’t think many would put them before anyone I had above them (save maybe Tennessee). And likewise UCLA is hurting for money right now but I don’t think anyone truly believes they be permanently at the bottom of the pack. Maybe you’d rather I just list them in tiers Tier 1- bluebloods and those moving that direction SEC(6): Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas B1G(4): Michigan, Ohio St, Pedo, USC Other(3) Notre Dame, Florida St, Clemson Tier 2- above average programs SEC(3): Auburn, Tennessee, aggy B1G(5): Michigan St, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin Other(1): Miami Tier 3- average, where most of college football lives SEC(5): Arkansas, Kentucky, Mizzou, Ole Miss, South Carolina B1G(4): Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, UCLA Other(7*): K State, North Carolina, NCSU, Oklahoma St, TCU, Virginia Tech, West Virginia (stopping at 7 but I assume you get my point, the majority would be here) Tier 4- below average SEC(2): Mississippi St, Vanderbilt B1G(5): Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers Other(3*): Duke, Kansas, Virginia
  5. Whatever you want I was just listing them in general on football (bluebloods, near bluebloods, and just outside) we could line them up by national titles or all time wins or whatever, that wasn’t really the point. The point was that it’s roughly balanced before we hit the basketball schools, private schools, has beens and/or never been.
  6. Just turned on the SECN to see what Oklahoma was doing.
  7. Stack rank the best of SEC versus the best of the Big Ten. Texas/Michigan Bama/tOSU OU/Pedo UGA/USC LSU/Oregon Florida/Nebraska Tenn/Wisconsin aggy/Mich St Aub/Washington Ole Miss/Iowa Yea, the dregs of the Big Ten bring down the AVERAGE but FOX isn’t selling the dregs they are selling the best. If they let Florida St and Clemson join the Big Ten along with the eventual inevitability of Notre Dame and they’ll have a clear edge. Those 3 programs are the only top 25 stadiums by capacity not currently in the Big Ten/SEC. I’m not saying that if this happen the SEC is doomed by any means…but I think both the SEC and ESPN would be making a major mistake to let them go without a fight.
  8. UNC’s numbers don’t bother me if you’re bringing them into the SEC with FSU/Clemson but this is exactly why I’m less confident in Virginia. UVA checks a lot of boxes, but football/viewership is not one of them. If added, they likely join Vanderbilt football as a near permanent fixture on the SECN each Saturday. Virginia Tech’s numbers, despite not having the best decade, are respectable and their stadium is the 4th largest in campus stadium not in the SEC/B1G (a good indicator of fan support).
  9. Cedric Golden seems like a douche bag.
  10. You could be right on UVA (I’ve seen Virginia Tech fans make good arguments against them) but you are 100% wrong on UNC, they likely are the MOST valuable property still out there not named Notre Dame. If a school left the SEC and they were looking for a single replacement, UNC would be the first call, hands down. I agree. UVA isn’t as clear but those two schools do check every box except football. Large public flagship universities in geography contiguous Southern states with large populations and new media markets that excel in basketball, baseball, non rev sports, and (even though that doesn’t matter that much) elite academics. Adding just FSU/Clemson means 10 out of 18 teams have CFP/BCS titles and the league might be too competitive. But if you bring them in along with UNC/UVA you improve every aspect of the league while keeping the competition similar to what it currently is.
  11. I’ve said it before and will say it again. The headgear is iconic. Corso is going away. Saban is replacing him as the coach of the desk. McAfee is replacing him as the showman/clown and will do the headgear. You’ll have Desmond, Rece, Saban, McAfee, and Herby manning the desk once Corso ride off into the sunset.
  12. If he posts a CR post report it and move on. You just coming into the thread and shitting on the information being provided isn’t helpful. It’s lazy. I would ask instead that you put in the effort and post your own twitter links or news stories. I think many would welcome some additional content to counter balance the current narrative that is being supplied in the thread.
  13. Oregon fans: ”Five dollars a beer. Good gosh! I never ever want to leave here…”
  14. This guy seems uninformed… https://sportsnaut.com/texas-longhorns-oklahoma-sooners-to-allstate-12/amp/
  15. Agree. The only situation I could understand taking Private Equity is with FSU/Clemson. If you have to pay out 200 million plus to the ACC to get into the Big Ten or SEC to make $30mil more a year, then I could see that. Still, it seems like a loan/bond from the state, would both be preferable than PE. Outside of that, I find any other scenario hard to image.
  16. Wait, they don’t look like THIS anymore?
  17. Silently laughs as I sit in the Denver airport on my way to…
  18. I mean yes that priority #1, but I wouldn’t be upset with one in basketball, baseball or softball…
  19. Want a source? https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/being-an-aggie-is-no-joke/
  20. It helped with the first one in 2021. We would have won 2022 and 2024 even under the old scoring system.
  21. 👀 yeah…those billboards that THEY purchase 👀
  22. I literally will be there tomorrow and was told they had no availability. If they go broke it was bad management/accounting however that hotel is seeing plenty of business so someone would absolutely buy it and continue running it.
  23. B1G went from 14 teams for 8.5 bowls to 18 teams for 7 bowls when the playoffs took their bids to the Rose/Orange. Like the Big 12, who last year didn’t have enough contractual tie ins for all of its bowl eligible teams, the Big Ten may need access to these extra bowls. Some of these numbers may be outdated but it appears that the SEC/ACC have enough bowl games to cover their teams while the Big Ten and Big 12 may not. B1G: 14teams/8.5bowls > 18teams/7bowls 38% coverage SEC: 14/11.5 > 16/9 56% B12: 10/7 > 16/6 37% ACC+ND 15/10 > 18/9 50% P12 12/7 > 2/6 300% In a perfect world the Big Ten would take the PAC12’s bid to the Alamo and Sun Bowl while the Big 12 took over the Holiday and LA Bowl, leaving the PAC2 the Las Vegas and Independent.
  24. All the bowls want the Big Ten schools so they don’t want to sign up exclusively for OSU/WSU or the 4corner schools when they could hit the lottery and get an underperforming USC.
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