Everything posted by TKthunder2
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
With the Big 12 keeping a strong presence in Texas they’ll continue to have interest from FOX and if they can lock up the 4C schools and have a weekly late kick plus play games on Thursday/Friday games they’ll get interest from ESPN. Those are the major selling points. Yes, Oklahoma State and TCU help but add the 4 Texas schools, Oklahoma State, and BYU or Kansas to the PAC12 and you’d have similar interests from the networks.
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Realignment talk not going away
and ring that notification bell too while you’re at it
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
Home to the $30,000 millionaires
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
Only 60k seats? That’s cute.
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
No one gives a shit about TCU nationally. If they are in the playoff picture they they watch, otherwise they can get some juice just because people in Texas/DFW will watch. Take out UT/OU games and TCU had 2 regular season games pull 4 million viewers (ISU and Baylor, both late season after they beat UT and people nationally recognized them as a real playoff contender) and 2 pull 2 million (when they played Tech right before UT, and OSU in week 7). Hitting 4 million viewers is a milestone, and it does not happen regularly. Extrapolating TCU’s playoff run as something the Big 12 can replicate year in year out with the same level of novelty is a flawed argument. 2 million sure, getting quality ranked vs ranked matchups on FOX/ABC may even pull 3, but for 4 it typically has to have national interest which is where the new Big 12 will likely struggle. Prior to TCU this last year do you know the last 4 million viewer conference game the Big 12 has had without UT/OU? You have to go back to 2015 for Baylor/OSU and Baylor/TCU. Games where people thought Baylor had a chance to speak into the CFP late in the season. Sound familiar? But as I said before, without UT/OU, the remaining Big 12 schools will have more opportunities to get a heavily watch game and they’ll likely do better than a pair once every 7 years, but even the RRSO didn’t pull 4 million every year, so it’s not an automatic by any means.
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
No one outside of the State of Texas gave a shit about TCU until they beat UT. Once they did, people began to believe they’d make the 4 team playoff and their rating doubled from 2 million to 4 million. The WEAK Iron Bowl this year with a horrible Auburn and basically out of the running for a playoff spot Alabama still beat them. aggy/LSU was a joke this year too and it was opposite USC/ND which had playoff implications. TCU’s final 2 games and the CCG is what the Big 12 can do at its peak not what it will do routinely. Will the 12 team playoff drive more interest or less? Would anyone give a shit about TCU/Iowa State if TCU was a virtual lock? UGA/GT only pulled 2 million viewers this year so that works both ways. I’m curious to see how it shakes out. I think the Big 12 is in as good a spot it can be right now, with only shutting out the PAC from ESPN/FOX and adding a weekly Late kick could elevate their position even more.
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Русский корабль - иди нахуй
I can’t recall the context, but in one of my Russian history courses there was a quote about always keeping 2 bullets in reserve. One for your officer and one for yourself. Might have been bullshit, but it was memorable.
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Русский корабль - иди нахуй
India is very contrarian and hyper self interested and nationalistic. They do not have a strong centralized government don’t trust the West past any direct exchange. They don’t trust Russia or China either but when they can get huge discount on resources due to Western sanctions they are going to take advantage.
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Tell Me About Texas a&m
Dumbass doesn’t even know the TV deals. Big Ten- FOX, CBS, NBC, FS1, BTN SEC- ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, SECN
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
If they continue to play 9 conference games and everyone schedules at least one P5 game then yes, I can agree. If they go back to 8 and still only occasionally schedule P5 OOC opponents then no. Also keep in mind, the 6 automatic bids for conference champions is going to be renegotiated in 2026. If a weak schedule Big12/P12/ACC team steals a shit bid from the Big Ten/SEC in the next 2 seasons then that won’t be forgotten. You could easily see a scenario where that pool shrinks to 4 autobids.
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
Yes he’s not rocking the boat until the move is complete, but here is what he said just after it broke per an OSU site. https://pistolsfiringblog.com/ou-president-ad-say-sooners-want-to-continue-bedlam-after-sec-move/
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
OU’s first public comment on the move to the SEC states that they wished to continue playing Okie State/Bedlam in all sports. All see if I can find the quote in the wayback machine.
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
BYU/Utah have continued to play most years.
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Realignment talk not going away
Like UVA/VT, I could see them adding NCSU if UNC goes North (UNC fans want SEC, their admin wants Big Ten) I don’t see the SEC going West. They made a big deal about keeping the geography tight and publicly criticized the Big Ten expansion to LA. I don’t see them expanding past 20, because the next set of candidates will water down the brand. FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA, VT, Duke, Kansas, WVU (though I admit having UK, KU, UNC, Duke is the same conference would be appealing) When thinking about SEC expansion now, you have to think about the future schedule. The current SEC division model were shit so blowing them up didn’t upset anyone all too much. This new model of playing more teams regularly will be far superior, so any additions will upset the new balance and have a real negative impact. 3-6-6-6 gets you to 22 and playing everyone on a 3 year rotation with 9 conference games 4-5-5-5 gets you to 20 and playing everyone on a 3 year rotation with 9 conference games 1-9-9 gets you to 20 playing everyone on a 2 year rotation with 10 conference games 3-7-7 gets you to 18 playing everyone on a 2 year rotation with 10 conference games 1-8-8 gets you to 18 playing everyone on a 2 year rotation with 9 conference games
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
OU in the next 12 years has an open spot for Okie State and has offered to schedule them. They only have series with Michigan, Nebraska, and Clemson over that same time period. Joe C has been told by Okie State that they don’t want to play it and he doesn’t want to rock the boat. Oklahoma State has only a single power 5 opponent booked 11 of the next 13 years (ArkansasX4, and home and homes with Bama, Oregon, Nebraska, and Colorado). To their credit they aren’t your regular bullshit opponents, but Gundy doesn’t want to play OU. The series is so lopsided and it has ruined their chances at major bowls multiple times. I understand their position and why they are adamant on blaming OU, but anyone with half a brain can see they are using this to their advantage. Neither has a power 5 opponent scheduled in 2031. The fact that they didn’t immediately put something on the books tells you everything you need to know.
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Realignment talk not going away
Yep. They add after the ACC GOR expires, before the next TV contract and the money will be there. Sure, hypothetically everyone might be out $5mil/yr or so in the short term, but the long term results will be worth it.
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Realignment talk not going away
I don’t think they’ll expand until the ACC GOR expires (nor do I really want them to for my own reasons) but I think you’re looking too short term. FSU and Clemson consolidate and protect the brand. They are both top 20 home stadiums by capacity and would enhance the SEC product in all sports. They would be a threat to SEC hegemony in the South if they joined the Big Ten. No other school has the same impact. UNC and UVA are about expanding the brand. They won’t be worth their payout but both have extremely high sports, including basketball (which is something the SEC is weak in), academics (ditto), and markets that the SEC has long desired. The SEC Network is headquartered in North Carolina. The Big Ten can grab Miami or Georgia Tech but 2 Southern away games out of 20-24 won’t change their demographics. The rust belt is dying and the South is booming. Taking the two biggest targets of Big Ten expansion at forcing them to look West absolutely should be a high priority for the SEC. If they can get the Big Ten to take Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, Utah, Arizona State, Colorado and Notre Dame; that would be huge win for the SEC. If the Big Ten takes UVA, UNC, Duke, Clemson, FSU, Miami, Notre Dame, and Stanford that can only be interpreted as a loss.
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Tell Me About Texas a&m
In an eight conference game schedule we would only play OU every year. These would be the only annual matchups: UT/OU, aggy/LSU, pig/Mizzou, OleMiss/MSU, Bama/Barn, UF/UGA, TN/Vandy, SC/UK
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Tell Me About Texas a&m
It’s an implied threat for ESPN and the members (like Alabama) who voted no to 9 conference games. To their credit, aggy voted yes.
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
Conference agreements do not equal TV deal. Conferences have bylaws that prevent people from leaving without notice and may also have exit fees. Now they can still leave, but they will pay a penalty if they don’t abide by their conference agreements. The TV deal was a huge $$ number. That will not be a blocker for anyone after this season, but there are others thing that could still prevent movement.
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
4,150 fans. UT paid around $300k to reimburse the fans. Houston fucked their relationship with Texas over $300k.
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Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality
As bad as the UH addition was, UCF is worse. I think the Big 12 would look far better if they had gone with Memphis over UCF. UH was in a power conference once upon a time, same goes for Cincy who won some basketball titles back in the day as well. BYU is basically the closest you could get without being in the club. And then there is UCF. Never been in the club. Didn’t join D1 until 1985. Had 1 good year of football but brings little else to the table. They are basically Boise State in a better market. Memphis (who also was never in the club either) has final four basketball success and a longer history of football, just without that one undefeated season. Let me ask it another way. If new school #12 becomes a permanent cellar dweller in football, who would be the best fit. UCF on an island next to nobody, or Memphis far closer to the geographic center of the conference that has sports other than football on its resume?
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Realignment talk not going away
It’s signaling that they WILL take 2. If they take 2 now, likely won’t be room for everyone in the PAC. Hoping that the scarcity of spots to get people to get off the fence. I doubt they add 2 non P5 schools, but it’s a good scare tactic to a school like Arizona.
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Leon decided to run out of time a little early I guess
He just quit football again, per twitter
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American "Passport Bro" culture (because they can't get significant others here in America)
Here’s a professor on CNN briefly discussing the 20% of men figure.