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Posts posted by Hank Kingsley
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Rough guesses
Warren - 25-30 million
Biden - 20-25 million
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When Pete announces his exploratory committee in January, he had an email donor list of 24,000 people. 8-9 months later he has 580,000 individual donors.
To put that in perspective, Bernie's email donor list heading into this primary was 2.1 million people.
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6 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
Which candidates blame/antagonize the majority of Republican voters as part of their strategy?
Blame is probably the wrong word.
Fights, revolutions, and welcoming "their hatred", even if intended for the Republican Party specifically, is naturally divisive language to the other side. Maybe that's the only way to win and get anything done. Buttigieg thinks otherwise.
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Shut the fuck up, Hank.
wait...
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15 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Sorry but to me the dude is more interested in getting elected than actually accomplishing anything. For Pete, getting elected is the accomplishment in itself. He’s a classic politician through and through. If you want a stabilizing place holder with inspiring rhetoric, he’s your man.
He’s still a million times better than any Republican or Joe Biden.
Yes, the classic politician that has spent 27 of his 37 years on this planet in South Bend, Indiana.
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2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Pete came out as a strong progressive and now has Jennifer Rubin writing puff pieces about him as the good alternative to Biden.
No pivot though!
Not that I give a shit or want her to like Pete, but Jennifer Rubin has been complimentary of Buttigieg literally since the day after he announced his exploratory committee.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/24/what-pete-buttigieg-brings-race/
But I love that you're trying to use a WP blogger's opinion as proof of a pivot. Lol.
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3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Yeah no, Pete took a visible pivot to the middle after he raised a bunch of money.
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Just now, Js1 said:
I don't think Pete realizes we are at war with domestic terrorists masquerading as the Republican party. We have to fight, because they aren't interested in working with us.
Pete is fully aware of damage created by the Republican Party. He called out their complicity directly at the 2nd debate.
He doesn't think it's wise to blame or antagonize the majority of Republican voters.
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This is pretty simple. Pete is running a general election campaign during the D primary. He's not trying to only appeal to Democrats when campaigning. He believes the American people generally agree on a number of important issues and thinks he can deliver results.
For people that believe the dam has broken and there's no saving Republican voters, fights and revolutions are the way to go. Maybe we are at that point. Maybe the country is permanently broken.
Pete's strategy is obviously risky, but it's been his consistent tone and viewpoint since entering the race.
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Impressive number for Bernie.
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Not surprising, but confirmation that Kamala's campaign has been a total mess so far.
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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:
Now, it's just about bodies at the polls.
Agreed. Besides huge Democratic voter turnout, there is another possibility: a significant enough amount of 2016 Trump/anti-Hillary voters who decide to stay home on election day.
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1 minute ago, DixonHur said:
I agree 100% with this, but I also assume you still voted for her in 2016 and will vote D in 2020, so you're not who I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the D's who voted for Trump, or not at all...I'm guessing they'll be back in the fold come November 2020.
I'd feel more confident that they're back in the fold come November 2020 with Hillary completely sidelined. We have plenty of better candidates running now who don't need her help in any way.
Hillary's political story has been written. She'll never rebound from the 2016 election. Time to move on.
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10 minutes ago, DixonHur said:
That was then...I'm thinking a lot of Dems recognize the error of their ways.
I'm a Democrat. Fuck Hillary Clinton. She ran a shitty campaign. She shouldn't get any credit from Ds for recognizing Trump was a comic book villain in 2016. We all knew it. She basically stopped campaigning and played not to lose.
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8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:
That doesn't make sense. They're already voting for Trump. They're already hearing anti-Hillary commentary on a regular basis. But if Hillary would just shut up, maybe they'd vote Dem in 2020? I don't think so.
We're living in very complicated times right now, WTB. It's not about changing votes, it's about turnout. Fair or not, Hillary is an extremely toxic figure. Even to Democrats.
Put it this way, would any D candidate even want a Hillary endorsement? It's probably not worth all the baggage that comes with it.
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Today is the last day of fundraising for Q3.
Summer is kind of a dead period. Will be very interesting to see numbers come in and determine the viability of the 2nd/3rd tier candidates.
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Fair or not, we need Hillary Clinton to keep a low profile over the next year. Nothing good will come from her increasing her presence during the primary or general election.
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Bad idea IMO. Put everything in the one Trump thread.
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We are less than a week away from a Trump tweet that just says "CIVIL WAR!"
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D primaries usually have plenty of attack ads and candidates directly going after each other. This time around it looks like the supporters will do the dirty work on social media while the candidates play much nicer in public. We live in interesting times.
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Now seeing some scuttlebutt that Biden is gonna put up a surprising lower Q3 number. His online fundraising has been poor apparently.
I'm guessing Warren is waiting for Joe to announce so she can flop the nuts on him.