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6 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Except nobody on that list has anything as good as wins over: 3, 8, 12 as you can see..... the Florida St loss is just as bad as the Florida loss at this point. If Vandy wins out Tennessee will be unranked, same with Michigan if they lose to Ohio St. 

 

You're also acting like Alabama didn't survive losing to 3-7 South Carolina.

we sucked most weeks you're leaving that out and that's a huge factor here. Frankly I think it's the biggest factor, Texas has looked like utter dog shit for most of the season. surviving one bad game no biggie. sucking in 8 out of 11 games matters. getting your ass fucking handed to you on what was probably the biggest SEC weekend of the year (Texas/UGA and OU/Bama) really matters.

you all act like Texas is the best two loss team out there in this no tOSU scenario. that's just not fucking true, or it's at least legitimately arguable.

we are a mid team this year, we've played like it and we are being treated like it. and any argument that but for tOSU this is a top 10 team is just odd. there's no room for that Texas team in the top 10 right now.

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4 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Say it again for the morons who think 9-3 Texas gets in the playoff. Loss column is still the only thing that matters at the end of the day.

Depending on how it shakes out if we win the committee may very well have to confront the fact that keeping Texas out will result in significant scheduling changes for all teams (and a huge blow to the networks that are trying to push for more marquee OOC inventory).  I don't think we know definitively what they would do on the final vote.  Again, Texas-OSU is the highest rated game of the year to date.   Networks WANT a 9 game conference schedule + top OOC games.  Conference want the same so they can charge higher rights fees.   Sankey went to 9 + 1 on the basis that strength of record matters going forward.  If committee ignores that and 9-3 Texas is left out in a scenario where it is abundantly clear a 10-2 Texas with a win against Sam Houston would be in, it throws all of that out the window.    I think there will be a lot of pressure on the committee to avoid that.

It's why I want to see the last spot come down to a 10-2 Vandy or a 9-3 Texas.  That would pretty much definitively answer the question given the H2H win if not "counting losses".   Klatt had a segment on this several weeks back.  He said there was a points based model floated internally at some point where a loss to a top 5 teams is worth more than a win to a bottom tier team.  But if they aren't going to follow that, fine, let everyone know so SEC teams stop risking seasons scheduling 50/50 OOC games years in advance.

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11 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

2008?

 

and not in the champ game. which you disingenuously removed from my post.

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Texas with wins over GA, A&M, Vandy and OK was in, even with the two losses, Texas was in over any team with two losses, even if the playoffs were top 6 Texas was in over teams with 1 loss like say Oregon. That would have been a salivating schedule vs an Oregon team that skipped tOSU even if they were on the same damn conference.

You can't argue the same if we had played Rice, but lost to UF and Georgia sorry I just don't see it.

The key part being ignored is the size of the playoff berth, top 16 and UT is in. but Top 12 and we are in the bubble. We WERE given the benefit of the doubt even on teams with fewer losses, we just shat our pants in Athens, that is why we are bubble but on the outside looking in.

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2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Depending on how it shakes out if we win the committee may very well have to confront the fact that keeping Texas out will result in significant scheduling changes for all teams (and a huge blow to the networks that are trying to push for more marquee OOC inventory).  I don't think we know definitively what they would do on the final vote.  Again, Texas-OSU is the highest rated game of the year to date.   Networks WANT a 9 game conference schedule + top OOC games.  Conference want the same so they can charge higher rights fees.   Sankey went to 9 + 1 on the basis that strength of record matters going forward.  If committee ignores that and 9-3 Texas is left out in a scenario where it is abundantly clear a 10-2 Texas with a win against Sam Houston would be in, it throws all of that out the window.    I think there will be a lot of pressure on the committee to avoid that.

It's why I want to see the last spot come down to a 10-2 Vandy or a 9-3 Texas.  That would pretty much definitively answer the question given the H2H win if not "counting losses".   Klatt had a segment on this several weeks back.  He said there was a points based model floated internally at some point where a loss to a top 5 teams is worth more than a win to a bottom tier team.  But if they aren't going to follow that, fine, let everyone know so SEC teams stop risking seasons scheduling 50/50 OOC games years in advance.

does SOR include margin of victory or is is SOS?  I can't remember.

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Has anybody ask the CFP committee if Texas is being evaluated against the 2 loss teams? If not, they lied through their teeth about encouraging big time OOC games. 
 

That said, our season ended at Florida. We can lie to ourselves to make it feel better, but it was over October 4th.

The only thing in front of this team now is preventing aggy from playing for the SEC Title.

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5 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Has anybody ask the CFP committee if Texas is being evaluated against the 2 loss teams? If not, they lied through their teeth about encouraging big time OOC games. 
 

That said, our season ended at Florida. We can lie to ourselves to make it feel better, but it was over October 4th.

The only thing in front of this team now is preventing aggy from playing for the SEC Title.

We can all feel a certain way about our season and given what this team has shown on the road I'm not sure we could win a first round game against any potential opponent.  But the reality is, if Texas wins it absolutely has a playoff caliber resume considering strength of schedule.   I want us to win for all the obvious reasons but would really like to force a committee decision that will clarify how we should schedule going forward.  I love playing the big OOC games but we absolutely shouldn't do it if it's clear the committee isn't going account for vast scheduling discrepancies.   

I want us to be 9-3 and look at the final rankings and project (i) where would we be slotted 10-2 with a W against Ohio State, (ii) where would we be slotted 10-2 with a W against Sam Houston (replacing OSU) and (iii) where we are actually slotted.  If we don't think there is a meaningful difference between the first 2 scenarios (i.e., just at the front of the 2 loss teams so maybe a couple of spots) and 9-3 with the OSU loss slots us out all together, it becomes pretty clear there is no reason to schedule tough OOC.

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54 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

It’s pretty simple that you don’t know what the word “relevant” means.

If had beaten Florida (not the #1 team on our schedule), we’d be going to the playoffs, most likely even with a 3rd loss to A&M. Because we did not, we most likely don’t make the playoffs, even after we beat them. That’s the situation. 

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