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  1. No one is saying that our receivers aren't good. They just aren't as good as you think they are. For example, Troy Franklin at Oregon was the number 2 WR prospect out of Cali AHEAD of Worthy, and sure as shit there he is balling out. These teams with good QBs have talent just like we do. Sometimes more. Also, almost all these QBs have had a mediocre game or 2. Penix just had two very average games the last two weeks. Daniels had a couple bad games this year. The only QB who hasn't had bad games is Nix, and we all saw him at Auburn.
  2. I parsed out YAC because who has that stat to say we are better than any of the other good CFB teams out there? Here is what I do know. Nabors has more yards and as many TDs as Worthy and Mitchell combined on 26 LESS receptions by his damn self! Add in Thomas and Lacy and you get another 1500 yards. I mean Harrison Jr has the same amount of catches as Worthy but 400 more yards and 9 more TDs when EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYONE knows the ball is coming to him. Add in the fact that Ohio State has Egbuka who had 1200 yards receiving and 10 TDs last year but has been knicked up and missed games this year. Still 35-452 and 4 TDs isn't bad. He is averaging roughly the same per catch as Worthy. I would take Ga, and Bama's receivers too. Both of our receivers have flaws. AD has great hands but you can't tell me the last time he got significant YAC. Worthy is awesome after the catch, but drops a lot of balls, loses every 50/50, and you can't tell me the last time he caught a ball through contact. Sanders is a very good TE, and Whittington's talent is his try hard. I think the real issue is that it's been so long since we had truly elite talent at WR that we forgot what it looks like. There are great receivers out there besides ours my man.
  3. Any decent receiver gets open, and I said none of our receivers do anything overly exceptional PRIOR to the ball hitting them in the hands. Running after the catch is after it hits their hands. We have good receivers but we aren't Bama, Georgia, or Ohio State.
  4. There is nothing overly exceptional any of our receivers do prior to the ball hitting them in the hands. Nothing. Worthy runs solid routes but gives that back with suspect hands and literally never winning a 50/50. Any contact is a drop.
  5. MM performed well because he saw 1v1 coverage to start his games and then once the defense dropped their safeties back he folded like a lawn chair. Both times. Quinn sees that defense that MM folded under every week and still delivers.
  6. It is really a good thing you aren't an NFL GM. You would've said the same thing about Mahomes and passed on him in the draft. These dudes are baseball players man. Their feet, arm angles, and platforms are all over the place. It's how they play. For every throw you sit and judge QE throws something other guys just can't or don't do. You pass it up though because you have been hating on him since he got here and just refuse to take a loss. However. Let's take a look shall we? Defenders are taught to read body positioning to determine where the ball is going. So sometimes your body positioning and arm angles can fool defenders and give your guy an advantage or you a throwing window that might not have been there. 1) 8:02 Baxter goes in motion. Quinn turns toward Baxter but throws across his body to Whitt. The free DB takes a couple steps towards Baxter then has to turn and find Whitt allowing him to get 8 yards before contact. It completely froze the defender. 2)8:55 Ewers feet are pointed right where the blitzing defender jumps but he drops his arm angle and throws around him to Worthy. If Worthy didn't run a lazy, rounded-off route its an easy catch. Ewers created that throwing window. You likely didn't notice. 3)26:30 Quick little flick AROUND the head of the blitzer to Whitt that goes for 14 yards. Watch the replay. Body position is pointed right. Defense drifts that way despite all the O-line flowing left. At the last second he sidearms the ball around the head of the free blitzer and the defense is caught on its heels. If you square your body around here the defense will respond to it. 4)35:22 Defender comes free and jumps to block where he thinks the pass is going based on where Quinn's body is pointing. QE sidearms a ball around him to Sanders and picks up 5 yards. These are just a few examples of the little nuances that QE brings to the table that most people gloss over and other QBs don't do. Despite what you think they matter. He has throws like that every game. He throws a nice soft catchable ball. Instead of rocketing balls in there that get dropped. He is accurate. No place on the field is safe from him. Does he miss throws? All the time, but so does every other QB out there.
  7. Point is teams don't default to that defense just simply because we have receivers and an aggressive OC. They ask us to prove we can complete them and when we prove we can then they will back off. Quinn has gotten that respect week after week without having to prove it, because teams know if you single up vs him he WILL hit the receivers and you will have a long night. When teams who do not play the 3-3-5 change their entire scheme for an opponent that is a sign of ultimate respect.
  8. They didn't come out in that when Murph was QB. That's why he had so many 1v1 matchups in his starts. So two different QBs saw two different approaches even though they have the same OC and receivers.
  9. And this is where we have a serious disconnect. You are spouting opinion instead of watching film. Just about everyone on this thread can tell you that team after team tried their best to duplicate their version of the 3-3-5. I know you heard Sark say teams showed looks they never showed on film. That is why. You would know that with a simple rewatch.
  10. What blows me away is that people here see every single running back we have running for 6-7 yards per carry and don't even think to look into why. Could it be that it's because they aren't the opposition's priority? No. Has to be that our 5th string RB is just THAT GOOD. No kudos shall be awarded to Quinn.
  11. You won't answer and that's fine. I am putting this up anyway so other people with your weird opinion can read it too. Quinn does what the boss asks him to do and he does it pretty well. We don't ask QE to throw little 5 yard curls very often but when we do he hits them. What the boss draws up is long developing routes where Quinn has to stand in the pocket and wait. Then our fan base comes in here screaming that Quinn can't read a defense and isn't there yet when he takes a sack instead of throwing risky passes. Tech was conceding the run game to defend against Ewers and the passing game. Imagine a world where you are getting gashed for over 300 yards rushing and you keep lining up like this below. Tech lined up with a safety almost 20 yards off the ball to discourage the passing attack. Quinn isn't running some wide open spread offense like those other QBs you cited. He is running a pro-style offense. So you don't judge based on numbers you judge based on is he doing what the coach is asking him to do. The answer to that is yes, and he is doing that against teams that are determined to take away that part of the offense and live with the running game. You guys thinking our running game is so special are missing the fact that we are seeing honest boxes every week because people are scared of our passing attack. You man up on the outside like Bama did? You get 24-38 346 and 3 TDs. In fact, every team that's tried to get aggressive against the running game has gotten scorched by QE. Bama last year. 370 vs UW. 3 bills and 4 TDs vs OU last year. It's a shame that some of you have to be reminded of that but here we are.
  12. What if they got Jimbo and he won the conference and got into the playoff year one.
  13. We wanted to drag our nuts on everyone we wouldn't be playing anymore on the way out the door which means we needed to see Gundy. In a perfect world we run over Gundy and come into the SEC with the NC trophy just to stick it to aggy.
  14. This is why you need to just lurk here for the most part. What you are seeing is a defense determined to take away QE and the passing game. That's why we ran for over 300 yards today. But of course your eyes are only focused on Quinn amd what he is doing. You are seeing Tech protecting against the pass and allowing themselves to get gashed by all 90 rbs on our roster rather than let Quinn and them kill them through the air.
  15. Nah bro. Get in the fan portal. Heard aggy is looking for fans.
  16. They are both vs the same personnel though the alignment is different. I gave you the 4th quarter ones so you can see that even though Bijan was giving it to them all game they still wouldn't abandon their shell. That should've answered the question you had about whether or not they respected the passing game. What's weird is we are 10-1 and hating on the kid that got us here. Almost every team we played this year with Quinn trotted out their version of the same defense in an effort to slow our passing game. Quinn leads the conference in almost every category. Is the dude perfect? No, but he is the best QB we've had since 09. I respect you as a poster. I am just really really appreciative to finally have solid QB play after all these years. If you look back at us we have only been as good as the QBs we've had. Vince=13-0. Colt=13-1. Quinn=10-1. Sam=10-4.
  17. This where I'm at. Their front is solid and they haven't even gotten coached by Hop In the Portal yet.
  18. The longer they have no coach the more their current good players get antsy.........
  19. Last year KSU sat back in coverage and we ran on them. This year with no Bijan and Murphy at the helm they loaded the box until he proved he could beat them over the top and then they backed off. First still below is last year with Ewers. 12 personnel vs a 6 man box, and it's in the 4th quarter so we had already been gashing them in the run game. Second still is Murph. 12 personnel vs an 8 man box. In box situations you have a redshirt freshman. In both situations the running game was good.
  20. Agree with that, but Whitt can do it at a high level if he puts his mind to it. Slot receivers in the NFL can take quite a pounding on slants and crossing routes, but I think in spite of all his injuries he can handle it. Whit's injuries came from being too swole. Since he dropped weight he's been healthy.
  21. Bama ran their normal stuff and paid for it as QE lit them up. Every single other person we played with QE at the Helm stayed in coverage. Both BYU and KSU started their games trying to take away the run and make MM beat them. He saw 1 on 1 coverage on Worthy and AD.
  22. Essentially its just a rich dude getting into the back of a Rolls Royce Ghost and laughing at the paupers.
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