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  1. And interestingly, the LHB director at the time of the Eyes controversy, Scott Hanna, made all the same mistakes of inaction and over-politicking as Hartzell did. They even look the same, which is pretty weird
  2. I know there's a whole "devil you know" aspect to all of this, but all that keeping Hartzell communicates is that these sorts of fascist abuses of power are completely acceptable and justified
  3. IMO, it is completely fucking irrelevant however he felt while he requested a fucking COMPANY of DPS officers to come into his campus to deprive his students of their freedom of speech. He fucking ordered the code red.
  4. KVUE reporting isn't super clear, but it looks like all the trespass charges have been dropped? https://www.kvue.com/article/news/nation-world/israel-hamas-conflict/ut-austin-protests-charges-dropped/269-fd82fb7f-eeb6-4aeb-a8f9-edfbca08bcef Seeking more info Edit: it looks like they dropped 46 out of 55 cases, not sure what the 9 remaining details are https://versustexas.com/blog/protests-in-texas/
  5. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance We should not seek out and internalize all thought and ignore our own values just because it's different from our own. Society will invariably bend towards the wishes of those who wish to exclude and rule over others. Which wouldn't ya know it, is exactly what fuckin happened when Hartzell invited the jackboot riot cops into campus a day before the event and had em lining up before any protesters even started to arrive
  6. Sorry I didn't quite make it clear, Hartzell had told the soon-to-be-fired DEI staff that they would find a place for them in UT so they would not lose their jobs and livelihood. The DEI program was going away no matter what, but he welched on his commitment to keep them in jobs somewhere at UT.
  7. My guy, the supremes have issued entire rulings constructed whole-cloth out of hypotheticals that have nothing do with the case in front of them. It's what fascists do when they don't have facts on their side: stoke grievances with hypotheticals. See: DT pro-Palestine protest thread
  8. The DEI stuff was compounded because (according to my mom who's an AD for UT student services) hartzell made a big show of telling the staff and faculty that nobody would be losing their job and livelihood over the DEI programs getting shuttered - and then he fired all sixty of em. The staff and faculty have already been mad at hartzell because he went back on his word about protecting the Texas family from State interference That's what the Tower protest yesterday was originally supposed to be about, but they ceded the site to the second day of the peaceful pro-Palestine protests
  9. None of what you are talking about is descriptive of what happened on Wednesday at UT. Why do you insist upon talking about everything EXCEPT what happened at Texas?
  10. So you think it's appropriate to invite fascism and the trampling of free speech at The University of Texas because he was scared of something that happened in New York? Gee whiz, what a fucking LEADER! Wowie zowie!
  11. The fucker you voted for did quite a lot of heavy lifting to normalize cops using force as a first step.
  12. I hear you on jumping to conclusions, but this is not a time for nuance. The governor deployed shock troops onto campus to shut down speech he didn't like. Our university president consented to that abuse of our campus and student body. He put his political future and personal goals ahead of the good of The University of Texas. I just think that the fascists make the most progress in their goals when reasonable people treat fascists like they're also reasonable. Abbott and anyone who would answer to his orders to march into a peaceful protest and assault them to silence their speech are goddamn fucking fascists.
  13. Sorry that 4chan sucks? That's a bit of a jump to soft claim that meme culture is why hartzell had to call in riot cops for a few hundred peaceful protesters in a designated public speech area
  14. I don't think you're defending them, but I do think you're giving them the benefit of the doubt because you won't look for yourself
  15. Well we know that if a single AR-15 were there, DPS would still be waiting to enter campus
  16. How about: Abbott signed a law in 2019 to specifically make every public university a legal place for peaceful protest and demonstration. He violated that law yesterday because of fear of what happened in California and New York. Goons did not use bullshit tactics to get assemblers in trouble. The police showed up at 1130, before the protesters did, in full on riot gear. There's fucking video from Fox7 (before their cameraman was RKO'd and arrested by DPS) of students in yellow vests clearing a path through the protest for the police, who then turn around and teakettle and start arresting them. Please, go look for yourself what happened. Don't take abbott's word for it. He's counting on you to take his word and not be curious enough to look for yourself.
  17. Stop insisting that what happened at Texas on Wednesday was about antisemitism. You are doing abbott's propaganda work for him.
  18. First couple pages of the DT thread before the fascist apologists show up have most of the contemporaneous video and journalism on what happened
  19. Lol Austin got pumped and dumped on their tax credits
  20. [Laughs in advertising revenue]
  21. Yes, I know you take joy in seeing protesters brutalized, and ideally, shot in the streets. I too posted on surly in 2020. I just think it's disgusting to take joy in seeing it done to the Texas student body to appease a fascist movement. Especially when the same governor """standing up to antisemitism""" had no problems with no shit neonazis marching down congress wearing facemasks to demonstrate on the state capital. It puts the lie to their bullshit statement they released yesterday that is eagerly being mindlessly repeated by useful idiots. Ok and you stay happy about this, ya sick fuck
  22. I think the worst "name calling" I've done in this thread is calling someone a boomer, unless you think calling someone who is supporting fascism a "fascism supporter" is a bad thing? If you'd like to litigate my posts so that you can distract from the fascist attack on our campus, let's take it to another thread so we don't derail the focus on what happened at Texas on Wednesday. Which to be clear, was a fascist crackdown on free speech simply because the State did not like the content of that speech.
  23. We've been over this in the thread. They were asking UT to not officially sponsor the anti-palestinian, pro-zionist group that was calling for Palestinian genocide. That is the speech that I am inferring that you wanted to see, mainly because you're so happy to see their opposition met with outrageous violence. There is an important distinction between being not allowed to say anything at all and being teakettled in a designated public discourse space, and between wanting UT to not endorse pro-genocide speech. Nobody was trying to silence the pro-zionist speech, they just didn't want it wearing a UT logo. And yet, you choose to not see this key distinction and instead lean on name calling to attempt to derail the thread.
  24. And for what it's worth, the big stat from hartzell that the fascism apologists are hanging their hat on is misleading at best. If 26 of the arrested people were unaffiliated with the university, then a bunch of them were released without charges because there was no probable cause to justify their detainment and deprivation of rights https://www.kut.org/crime-justice/2024-04-25/ut-austin-palestinian-protest-charges-dismissed-israel-gaza-war Call me whatever names you'd like, but hartzells numbers and statements he gave to justify inviting fascism don't add up with the public and verifiable information we have.
  25. Oh and for what it's worth, the protests were much more attended yesterday, and yet without the presence of DPS there was no violence or damaging disruption to campus and classes. What happened on Wednesday was abbott targeting and singling out our university to punish it for not dancing to his fascist tune enthusiastically enough. Fuck anyone who would justify that brutality with a braindead LIE about how there was rampant violence and antisemitism on campus. It's the same fucking playbook from the same scumbags (in office and on surly) as the last time there were brutal fascist takedowns of protesters
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