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I'm surprised there hasn't been a bigger push for digital tables (like those on a cruise ship).  I don't like them at all, but if the concern is not spreading disease, repeatedly passing around chips and cards probably isn't the solution.  (And yes, I'm aware the main means of spread is through the air, and not from physical contact with surfaces.  But it is certainly possible.)

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I’ve seen that digital poker table one time and it was in downtown Madrid and a group of younger guys were playing at a very small casino. Was interesting to see how it worked versus the usual method. Agree that it sucked but also could maybe be a better temporary solution.

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Played one for about 3-4 hours in Hot Springs AR of all places.

It did, indeed, suck. Fortunately, so did the players so I did quite well, iirc

Dragging pots and stacking chips is one of the more enjoyable aspects of live play.

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17 hours ago, Lurch said:

Played one for about 3-4 hours in Hot Springs AR of all places.

It did, indeed, suck. Fortunately, so did the players so I did quite well, iirc

Dragging pots and stacking chips is one of the more enjoyable aspects of live play.

Didn't wait for that vaccine huh?

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Are they working on a vaccine for Hot Springs? Definitely needed

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On 6/19/2020 at 8:25 PM, Lurch said:

Played one for about 3-4 hours in Hot Springs AR of all places.

It did, indeed, suck. Fortunately, so did the players so I did quite well, iirc

Dragging pots and stacking chips is one of the more enjoyable aspects of live play.

100% agreed.  There's just something so satisfying about having a pile of chips pushed to you and then going through them in front of everyone meticulously picking out the big denominations and then building some chip towers.

 

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10 hours ago, Governor said:

100% agreed.  There's just something so satisfying about having a pile of chips pushed to you and then going through them in front of everyone meticulously picking out the big denominations and then building some chip towers.

 

There is also value to the intimidation those towers can put on passive players and the carrot it provides those hyper aggressive types to try to win those towers from you.

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Vegas:


The Bellagio poker room upped the ante Thursday when it reopened with the approval to host six-handed games.

The installation of plexiglass dividers between the players gave the Bellagio an edge over the other poker rooms open in Las Vegas, which have been hosting five-handed games, per guidelines from the state Gaming Control Board. The dividers also mean that players at the Bellagio are only encouraged to wear masks, while the other rooms are now required to have players wear them.

Casino poker games usually have nine or 10 players at the table.

The other rooms are charting different courses in response. One is installing its own dividers to allow six-handed games, another is sticking to five-handed, and another hopes to be approved for six-handed play without dividers.

Regardless of how many players were at the tables, poker rooms had no shortage of action throughout the weekend.

“We’re really happy to be open,” Bellagio director of poker operations Mike Williams said. “We’ve definitely had a positive response.”

The room was running at least 15 games throughout the day Saturday, and sometimes more than 20. It is open 24 hours a day.

Bobby’s Room, the high-stakes area of the Bellagio poker room, which hosts some of the biggest games in the world, was empty Saturday. Williams said he hoped to see the bigger games come back and that the room was ready when the players were.

The Orleans, which reopened June 4, is prepared to match the Bellagio’s plexiglass. Poker room manager Garrett Okahara said in an email that the room had already ordered dividers and hoped to have them installed and ready for six-handed play by Thursday or Friday.

The Orleans was running more than 20 games for a long stretch of Saturday afternoon into the evening. It is open from 8 a.m. to 4 a.m. daily.

“Although I assumed there would be pent-up demand upon opening, the demand has certainly exceeded my expectations to this point,” Okahara said. “It can only get better with six players, too!”

Caesars Palace, which reopened Thursday, is standing pat. Ryan Bishop, an executive who is running the room, said he saw no need to install the dividers.

“We’re getting plenty of business without it,” he said. “The players are happy.”

Caesars was running 10 to 15 games throughout Saturday. It is open from 10 a.m. to 2 a.m. Thursday through Sunday.

The South Point, which reopened June 4, wants to get to six-handed but without dividers. Poker room manager Jason Sanborn said in an email that the casino has put in a request to go to six-handed, saying that the new requirement of masks — which were only encouraged before — negates the need for plexiglass.

“Gaming indicated that masks equal plexiglass by the way they worded the new guidelines, so we feel like we have a good case to go six without them,” he said.

The South Point was running more than 15 games for most of Saturday. It is open 24 hours a day.

“The demand for poker has been great, and traditional tournaments haven’t even been added back into the schedule yet,” Sanborn said.

The Venetian became the first room to bring back multitable tournaments when it offered $250 buy-in 80-person shootout events Friday and Saturday. In that format, the 80 players were spread at 16 five-handed tables. Each table played down to one winner, then those 16 winners were placed at four four-handed tables. Those four winners then advanced to the final table.

The 80 seats were sold out before the tournament started both days. The Venetian said on Twitter that it would offer the same format next Friday and Saturday with the buy-in raised to $300 (still a maximum of 80 players).

The Venetian, which reopened June 5, did not say whether it would install plexiglass. It was running 20 games for most of Saturday. It is open from 9 a.m. to 1 a.m. daily.

Attempts to reach the smaller Golden Nugget and Sahara Las Vegas poker rooms were unsuccessful.

The Nugget, which reopened June 6, was running eight games most of Saturday. It is open 24 hours a day. Sahara, which reopened Thursday, ran a handful of games Saturday night. It is open from 6 p.m. to 2 a.m. daily.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/poker/bellagios-plexiglass-not-in-cards-for-all-poker-rooms-2058159/

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Jeff Boski played at the Bellagio when it opened,  he gives his after action report here.

(start at 8mins if you just want his thoughts on the new anti-covid mitigations)

 

 

 

if you dont want to watch the 1 mins of info the spoiler is below

he loves 6 handed due to action, but hates the plexiglass and masks because he cant hear anyone.  almost no small talk and when there is, it gets misconstrued, plus not being able to see anyones face hurts with reads.... says its very anti-social and wont work long term because its just not condusive to folks "having fun" and wanting to play

 

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Yeah, I imagine most controls/regulations discourage the recreational player, and even the compulsive gambler when all the fun is sucked out of the experience.  Now you're left with decent to good grinders.

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On 6/20/2020 at 1:37 PM, workswithseed said:

Didn't wait for that vaccine huh?

Your reading comprehension is top notch. 🙄

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26 minutes ago, Irieguy said:

Your reading comprehension is top notch. 🙄

Why? It sounds liked that he played in AR, and he was glad to use chips. I'm so sorry that I wasn't right.

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35 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Why? It sounds liked that he played in AR, and he was glad to use chips. I'm so sorry that I wasn't right.

He’s talking about things he enjoyed doing before COVID. 

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I’ve not purchased a master class yet, but that one might suck me in.

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I’ve not purchased a master class yet, but that one might suck me in.
Yeah, I'd buy Ivey before Negreanu.

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On 6/26/2020 at 8:39 PM, Chewbacca said:
On 6/26/2020 at 8:12 PM, Lurch said:
I’ve not purchased a master class yet, but that one might suck me in.

Yeah, I'd buy Ivey before Negreanu.

You can’t be all loosey goosey at the tables!

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The Aria poker room will reopen Wednesday with plexiglass dividers and six-handed games, an MGM Resorts spokesman confirmed.

The setup will be akin to its MGM sister property the Bellagio, which reopened with plexiglass June 18. That has allowed the Bellagio to host six-handed games, giving it an edge over the other open poker rooms in Las Vegas, which have been limited to five players per table without plexiglass, per the state Gaming Control Board.

The Orleans and Sahara Las Vegas have said they plan to install the dividers soon to go to six-handed.

The Aria poker room will be open 24 hours a day, seven days a week with 14 tables available for play. Only cash games will be allowed, not tournaments.

No spectators will be allowed in the poker room, the spokesman said. Food is also banned for the time being.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/poker/aria-poker-room-to-reopen-with-6-handed-play-2064665/

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The MGM Grand poker room will reopen at 4 p.m. Friday, a spokesman said.

The room will have plexiglass dividers between players to allow six-handed play, per guidelines from the state Gaming Control Board, like its sister properties the Aria and Bellagio.

The room will be open from 4 p.m.- midnight Thursday through Monday, the spokesman said.

Eight tables will be available for play. Only cash games will be allowed, no tournaments.

No spectators or food are allowed in the poker room.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/poker/mgm-grand-poker-room-reopening-friday-2067230/

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Posted (edited)

does beer count as food?

 

not that it really matters at MGM, it takes the GD drink girl well over an hour to deliver orders on average.  ive resorted to ordering 2 beers with 2 diff drink girls and only gotten 1 beer delivered 3 entire table rotations later. 

Edited by AUS-97HORN

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$0.50/$1.00 game. 6-handed.

I call on the button and four see a flop. $4.00 in pot.

I have K clubs five clubs. Flop is 7 clubs A spades 3 hearts.

Check, check, the villain bets $1.00, and I float. The villain likes to make min-bets postflop -- often all three streets. He'll often fold to a raise.

$6.00 in pot. Turn is 4 of clubs. Nice card for me. The villain bets $1.00 and I call.

$8.00 in pot. River is 2 of clubs. I have the second nuts. Sweet. The villain is fixin' to get raised.

But he overbets the pot -- $20.00 into $8.00. He has $160 left. I have him covered by a lot.

What's the play here? Raise and fold to a 3-bet?

 

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13 hours ago, Bookman said:

$0.50/$1.00 game. 6-handed.

I call on the button and four see a flop. $4.00 in pot.

I have K clubs five clubs. Flop is 7 clubs A spades 3 hearts.

Check, check, the villain bets $1.00, and I float. The villain likes to make min-bets postflop -- often all three streets. He'll often fold to a raise.

$6.00 in pot. Turn is 4 of clubs. Nice card for me. The villain bets $1.00 and I call.

$8.00 in pot. River is 2 of clubs. I have the second nuts. Sweet. The villain is fixin' to get raised.

But he overbets the pot -- $20.00 into $8.00. He has $160 left. I have him covered by a lot.

What's the play here? Raise and fold to a 3-bet?

 

You're never folding, and just calling is atrocious.  The question is, do you think he's capable of ripping over your raise with just a 5, blind to the backdoor flush because he's got the wheel?  Do you think he's capable of ripping over your raise with a flush that includes a 3 since he backdoored it?  Honestly if K5cc is in your range, every club combo from Q3cc down is in his.  Raising is the definite play, and never folding to a jam is correct when you're playing with 100bb effective stacks.  The only issue here, really, is that you're playing roughly 185bb deep.  That said, if he's bad enough to limp a suited ace, and then to both minbet it on the flop and again on the turn with top pair and a flush draw, he can have my 185bb if I got cold decked and he 3bet jams.

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31 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Matusow is a real piece of shit, isn't he?

He's not a piece of shit.  He's just incredibly insecure, bad at NLH, and mentally unstable to the point where he thinks the world is against him every time he loses a flip.  Away from the table he's a genuinely nice guy.  Even on the table he's a nice guy.  People know he's fragile and yet still slow-roll him.  I think that tells you more about those people than it does about him.

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I get that he has issues, but what he said and asking his followers to dox “him” as part of a physical threat was 100% the actions of a piece of shit.

And definitely not conducive to adding more regs to the game

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He's not a piece of shit.  He's just incredibly insecure, bad at NLH, and mentally unstable to the point where he thinks the world is against him every time he loses a flip.  Away from the table he's a genuinely nice guy.  Even on the table he's a nice guy.  People know he's fragile and yet still slow-roll him.  I think that tells you more about those people than it does about him.
I was referring more to his MAGA rant about the protests in the linked video.

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I've joined this union on Poker Bros. Lots of tournaments and cash games going. It's not pokerstars 2004 level of competition but there are lots of fish.

PM me if you'd like an invite. Times above are eastern, so add an hour to them.

 

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11 minutes ago, blacklab said:

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I've joined this union on Poker Bros. Lots of tournaments and cash games going. It's not pokerstars 2004 level of competition but there are lots of fish.

PM me if you'd like an invite. Times above are eastern, so add an hour to them.

 

Don't know much about Poker Bros....how do the finances work? Are you paying/getting paid by Poker Bros, or are you paying/getting paid by whoever is running the game and they just use Poker Bros as the platform? 

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Bad beats coming in all forms tonight... chip leader early at the card room, then hit an insane run of bad luck, including my 99 losing to an all-in to a 7-2o, then chip leader by a mile in both my online games and finished out of the money twice.

This game is a beating.

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On 7/6/2020 at 8:56 PM, Lurch said:

I get that he has issues, but what he said and asking his followers to dox “him” as part of a physical threat was 100% the actions of a piece of shit.

And definitely not conducive to adding more regs to the game

I agree.  He's definitely got some loose screws and displays a significant amount of underlying crazy sometimes.  There are plenty of people in the poker world who are happy to prey on his bipolar weakness.  I'd rather he stay on his meds.

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