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UncleSonny

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  1. Well I was actually talking about PassiveAggressive's pointless "FIFY" response but no I don't really understand the role you are trying to play in all of this either. Acting like it's a foregone conclusion that the EOT is finished at the University of Texas isn't true and just serves as red meat for the "cancel culture is an insatiable scourge on society" crowd.
  2. I do not understand the impulse some of you have to talk about these things in absolutes. You can’t know that and it only makes it more difficult for this thing to play out like you are hoping.
  3. Agreed and this seems to be exactly how it played out after the OU game and the story mostly ran out of steam and this thread blessedly fell off the top of the page. Up until this week we seemed to be heading into next season with a new coach and the same expectation. From my perspective this is what was happening. As the thing played out you heard players acknowledging that they understand the importance of the song to people and how nobody today sings it with any racial intent. Many also said despite that they wouldn't be singing it and they have their reasons for it and we certainly weren't going to punish students for not singing a fucking song. Most of the outsized reactions and talking past each other is happening on this board and in the media.
  4. I agree with what you are saying that the lyrics/intent is the most straightforward issue here. Find the lyrics were written from perspective of a slave owner and the song should be done away with, easy. If it's simply the bolded (like I expect the report to show) then yeah lets put that part to bed. I think you are underplaying the debut at a minstrel show aspect though. I'm not DD here, the facts and intent does matter and the whole thing is salvageable depending on what those are. I don't think the song should be shamefully banished if the entire issue is that it was first preformed at a minstrel show 100 years ago. At the same time, if black players (or anyone) don't want to stand up and sing that song now that it's history is common knowledge I don't think that's unreasonable. I'm certainly not interested in MAKING anyone sing it if they feel that way. That's what has to be navigated.
  5. Ear to the street's source is actually just his former coworker and he's cribbing the info. EJ is a hype-beast dbag but he at least appears to put the work in.
  6. They clearly were and honesty that’s where this was all headed. The reason this thread exploded the last few days wasn’t because of the woke mob or cancel culture or anyone’s other favorite hobby horse. It was the racist emails from donors that were published. The players haven’t said shit about the eyes since after OU and they all stayed on the field since then. Sark said the song would remain from day 1 and got no public pushback from the team. This thing could have been dying down and handled internally if not for racists being unable to keep their racism to themselves.
  7. That’s basically it but it’s probably more so that it was written for and made its debut at a campus minstrel show than the subsequent performances at them over the years. For the second part of the question there really isn’t any evidence that the lyrics are a problem. I think when the controversy first popped up there was some belief among players and black students that the lyrics referred to “the eyes” of slave owners being upon slaves but contemporary stories about the song being written have been pretty clear that they are a play on something the University president said at the time and don’t have a racial connotation. We’ll see if the report turns up any new information.
  8. Point of order for you guys when you are going on these incredible rants, you need to adjust your buzzwords. Technically I'm a millennial and I'm closer to 40 than 30 at this point. No typical college student or athlete is a millennial, the young people that are now ruining the world are Gen Z.
  9. You may be right about Miller's skill set but I love him as a 2nd rb take. If this class is as deep at WR as 9.95ers are saying I'd rather him in a 2-back class and get our 4th or 5th WR elsewhere. I guess the problem with that is there was talk that the staff is looking for a power back for the second guy but personally I think the big back thing is a little overrated.
  10. Looks like Arch got his athleticism from Cooper, a couple plays in and that's more moving the pocket and throwing on the run than I've seen out of Peyton or Eli. Feel free to call me a dumbass when Ewers is the best college qb of all time (or for any other reason) but if given the choice I'd take Maalik in '22 and Manning in '23 over Ewers and whoever the 2023 version of Charles Wright is. I know we are far from a sure thing for Arch but if Sark put together a qb room of RS junior Card, RS freshman Maalik Murphy, and true freshman Arch Manning we would be set up for some sustained qb success.
  11. I guess it was notable that a&m jumped into Campbell's top group this weekend but Perroni isn't even making the effort to gives the rubes any hope there (via @Longhornfrenzy twitter):
  12. Oh is it effective? Which thread are we talking exactly? Certainly not this one. Someone posted he got into a car accident on the "offseason thread" and the first couple responses were how much of a pain in the ass the guy is so not that one either.
  13. Whatever you are doing in your Texas fandom to have missed on this is aspirational and I'm jealous. I hate getting my hopes up for elite players from the Boot so screw Gerry for teasing that we may be leading here. This would be a monster pickup.
  14. Three more weeks, I need some glowing practice reports to inject into my veins.
  15. This picture needs more love. The casual eye contact between Owens and the defender on the ground is killing me.
  16. Yeah every school is always going to have racist alums, vocal and otherwise. We can't give those alums outsized influence/voice in the school just based in their annual donation numbers though. Or, in one of those racist's own parlance, lets not let the tail wag the dog.
  17. Haha, did Chip actually write that about Matthew Merrick in '15 or '16 or is that a fever dream I had?
  18. Fair enough, mea culpa. Honestly I want to push back on the bolded but there was a poster on here today that pretty much said exactly that. I guess I’ll just say that I haven’t heard the players (who this is about) express that. And it sucks that many members of the first extreme group are donors who feel comfortable emailing their bullshit and trying to throw their weight around instead of a handful of dipshit Surly posters.
  19. Guess a may need another hint, I have no clue what you are getting at. If your post wasn’t a clumsy “gotcha” at the straw-man that players think people who sing the song today are racist then fine, sorry I quoted you in the response. I don’t have a spreadsheet tracking each poster’s stance on the matter. The point still stands through, as plenty of other posters have been fucking the shit out of that aforementioned chicken.
  20. This is some tired shit. Nobody is saying people that care about the eyes are heartless or are racist. Sterns, who has carried the bulk of the blame for the whole thing from the fan base didn’t say it: You guys can either keep fucking that chicken with your fingers in your ears or just maybe listen for a second and we can find a way to get past this that works for everyone.
  21. Right, we all know how easy all the confederate monuments and named buildings have gone down the last few years. Hardly a peep!
  22. So even if it was on the list (non of which would have really mattered had he just won the conference this year) with the other things you cite, I think you phrased it correctly. "how he handled the EOT". Herman completely failed in his position as the leader of the football program and let this thing spin out of control more so than it ever needed to. For Clarence to tweet that it was because he "didn't make the players stay on the field" is just utter bullshit.
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