Captainant
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56 minutes ago, JBJ said:Yeah. He demanded that I answer a question that was clearly designed to be a kafka trap. I answered it while dodging his fallacy.
That's not even the one we PM'd about though.
So I had a few free minutes from a call getting cancelled and dug up the post that you're talking about.
Helpfully, Dahobbs made nice post memorializing your "just asking questions". In that case, you kept repeating the same question over and over saying "nObOdY wIlL aNsWeR tHiS" when it's more that you just don't like the answers you're getting. And then you spike the football because "it only strengthens your point every time we refuse" That's either trolling or being a pants-on-head dumbass. And it's why imma asked you to clearly state your position, since you were echoing the party line/justification for the deployment of federal troops without the consent of the state they were being deployed into, but didn't want to really own the position.
edit: just noticed that on the next page, Imma even clearly states why he asked what he did of you
On 7/21/2020 at 12:03 PM, immamac said:no, my preferences are irrelevant - same thing as axiom. I need to know if people are just threadshitting and trolling or if you are really genuinely trying to argue for something.
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4 minutes ago, workswithseed said:
Didn't imma say that he would delete your posts if you didn't answer a question? I could be remembering it wrong.
I recall that happening as well - but we'd be better served with a link to the thread for the context. JBJ (or someone) was trolling and "just asking questions" to throw stones at other posters and their arguments, but refused to take or express a position of their own - lest they have to defend it. That's a pretty clear-cut example of trolling, and is something that does tend to get people crowdsourced after a while.
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6 minutes ago, 83Horn said:
I had a bit of a chuckle several years ago when I was going through a box of stuff I had picked up while cleaning out my mom's house after she passed away. In this box was a diary my dad had kept in 1955. There was an entry from about a week after one of my brothers was born, in which my dad says that he was feeling pretty ashamed of himself for making my mom cry at the hospital. Apparently he blew up at the staff when they handed him the bill for the stay. "$140??? She was only in there for four days!" My, how things have changed.
Even adjusted for inflation (about $1400 in 2021 dollars), I can't imagine anyone leaving a hospital birth for under five grand. Even with insurance.
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2 minutes ago, NAVY said:
Insidious is correct. And somehow organized? Just sickening. Seeing the Brony shit as an incel white power origin story too, I just, wait, what? Fuuuuccckkk
It all started with steve bannon's utilization of gamergate to redpill the incels to follow trump.
I know it sounds like libleft madlibs, but it's what actually happened and it's pretty well documented in journalism.
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2 minutes ago, slorch said:
I’m not defending him. I am describing what happened. It doesn’t require your acknowledgment. But oh no, somebody didn’t wish eternal death upon Trump so they are a Trump supporter, right?
When someone is desperate to cast blame on other people whenever trump comes up... You tend to come off as a redhat.
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6 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:
Nobody saying that. I'm saying Faucci was intimately aware of the specifics of the GOF research being done in the labs. Seems like a good place to start. Nor do I think it's a weaponized anything. We do GOF research here in the states. Nor is all the GOF research the same in terms of steps taken. With original samples it's easy enough to trace this back to it's origins. Unfortunately ALL samples and ALL data were destroyed by the CCP. So we need to know who knows what. Faucci knew each scientist working in the lab.
Boy howdy just imagine if we formerly had embedded scientists in those labs but pulled them out right before COVID for political reasons.
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7 minutes ago, lmao said:
Do people spike the football on someone who didn't get the flu vaccine yet dies from the flu? This is so bizarre. I got the JJ vaccine. If someone doesn't want to get it that's their (stupid imo) decision and risk they want to take. Other than that who gives a fuck.
I for one am happy that there's one less racist neonazi in the law enforcement community. From the right wing violence thread:
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Just now, slorch said:
But xynophobia…
Trump was promptly told to STFU when this was broached. Not that he ever listened.
He was told to STFU because he did not bring any evidence to back his assertion that CHYNA was UNLEASHING COVID. And his administrations investigations, led primarily by the state dept under pompeo, only gave cherry-picked data and disprovable inferences to back it up.
Is your position that trump was constrained by the left, and because of political pressure, failed to sufficiently investigate an issue of importance?
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Just now, slorch said:
Better (extremely) late than never…
Lol shouldn't that have been something that the trump admin was on top of? Oh wait, the
statepompeo department only produced unusable information without any backing evidence that was based on cherry-picking stats or back trump's conspiracy theories.It's almost like Biden had to start over from scratch or something....
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34 minutes ago, BearSchlong said:
my pacemaker tech says I'm going to need a new one next year, I'm sure the bill just for the device will be $250K. Last one was 2010 and it was $95K.
hey man, health insurance execs and the human scum that profit off of exploitative medical pricing need private school and vacation homes too!
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1 hour ago, JBJ said:
To the two bolded points: I can see how it is that way for you, but the majority of posters would disagree.
Now see the second bolded is provable. And by my view and immamacs view, people don't get neg bombed for simply holding a contrary view. And the negs don't reflect that either. GRhorn posts a ton in CR, workswithseed earnestly posts his opinion and defends it, donkey cigars came in as a low post count but stood his ground and honestly shared his opinion and isn't some pariah for it.
All of them get a rash of shit for it, but they don't get banned for it. They still post.
But I'm open to being proved wrong with specific examples and evidence to show why those disagreeing posters feels are actually reals.
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19 minutes ago, JBJ said:
I don't know if this is the solution, but I don't see anything working out until CR is cleaned up a bit.
In your mind, what's the problem with CR right now? It's a pretty rough and tumble board, but it's the designated place to talk about the shitshow that's been our shared existence for the last several years. That isn't the Texas football team at least.
Posters don't get neg-bombed for having dissenting or contrary opinions in CR, but they do get thumped for having wildly hot takes that are completely unsupported by evidence and/or ongoing posting of disinformation and misinformation. And even then, the negs only come when that person has really committed to being pants-on-head insane or just plain trolling.
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4 minutes ago, dcar00 said:
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-f98d73476a1a4942ca5528fa5dfff70f
hilarious. we always laugh when some exec says "need to redouble our efforts" when something they did backfired right in their face.
Based on this and other reporting, it sounds like the trump admin and pompeo didn't give them much to go on in the way of actual evidence or useful intelligence. Note that the reporting is that the intel community is being ordered by Biden to redouble their efforts, not that Biden "needs to redouble his efforts".
From the article though, it sounds like there's two leading theories:
QuoteBiden in a statement said the majority of the intelligence community had “coalesced” around those two scenarios but “do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other.” He revealed that two agencies lean toward the animal link and “one leans more toward” the lab theory, “each with low or moderate confidence.”
With the current majority opinion among the low/moderate confidence opinions being that it was animal in origin and not from a lab.
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Most Texans will likely have higher charges on their power bills for years to come to cover gas utilities', electric cooperatives' and electric companies’ financial losses from the storm and prevent customers from having to pay huge bills in a short time.
Lawmakers are close to passing bills that would allow companies to seek billions of dollars in state-approved bonds backed by charges on customers’ bills to stabilize the state’s distressed energy market.
After state electricity regulators set power prices at the maximum rate, $9,000 per megawatt-hour, and natural gas fuel prices spiked during the storm, many companies — especially natural gas utilities and rural electric cooperatives — were financially wrecked. Others owe massive debts to the Electric Reliability Council of Texas.
Lawmakers may soon approve around $4.5 billion in ratepayer-backed bonds for natural gas utilities and another $2 billion in such bonds for electric cooperatives.
The Senate also approved a proposal in the early hours of May 27 to allow electric companies, including retail electric providers, to finance an additional $2.1 billion for electricity that companies paid for but never received during the storm, as well as additional charges from the high wholesale power prices. The Senate has pushed hard for a financial remedy to the infamous 32-hour period during the week of the storm when regulators kept wholesale power prices at the $9,000 cap after more electric generation came online. Many people dubbed that controversial decision a regulatory pricing error.
Additionally, House Bill 4492 would loan $800 million to ERCOT through the State's Economic Stabilization fund, known as the rainy day fund, to pay for debts to the grid operator. ERCOT acts as a transaction house for the electricity market, so when companies couldn't pay their debts after the storm, other companies got shorted for the electricity that they sold. ERCOT will pass on the cash to companies that are owed money.
Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. Fucking fuck.
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4 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:
Biden Team Reportedly Shut Down Secretive Trump-Era Project Pursuing The Wuhan Lab-Leak Theory
President Joe Biden’s administration shut down a clandestine State Department operation intended to prove the lab-based origins of Covid-19 over concerns about the work’s poor quality and its politicized, premature and selective use by Trump and his allies to blame the pandemic on China, according to CNN.
Ah yes, totally non-partisan post that totally hasn't already been covered in the political thread where this was first posted.
QuoteThe existence of the State Department inquiry and its termination this spring by the Biden administration -- neither of which has been previously reported -- comes to light amid renewed interest in whether the virus could have leaked out of a Wuhan lab with links to the Chinese military. The Biden administration is also facing scrutiny of its own efforts to determine if the Chinese government was responsible for the virus.
Those involved in the previously undisclosed inquiry, which was launched last fall by allies of then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, say it was an honest effort to probe what many initially dismissed: that China's biological weapons program could have had a greater role in the pandemic's origin in Wuhan, according to two additional sources.
But the inquiry quickly became mired in internal discord amid concerns that it was part of a broader politicized effort by the Trump administration to blame China and cherry-pick facts to prove a theory.
The decision to terminate the inquiry, which was run primarily out of the State Department's arms control and verification bureau, was made after Biden officials were briefed on the team's draft findings in February and March of this year, a State Department spokesperson said. Questions were raised about the legitimacy of the findings and the project was deemed to be an ineffective use of resources, explained a source familiar with the decision.
Sources involved in the Trump-era inquiry rejected criticisms over the quality of their work and told CNN their objective had been to examine scientific research and information from the US intelligence community which backed the lab leak theory and shone more light on how it could have emerged in the lab.
A day after CNN reported this story, the State Department disputed that it had shut down the Trump-era inquiry and instead said that its work had been completed. Several sources involved with the inquiry who spoke to CNN said it was their impression that there was more work to be done.
On Wednesday, Biden issued a statement that he has directed the US intelligence community to redouble its efforts in investigating the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic and report back to him in 90 days.
The TL:DR is that the pompeo-led "investigation" was not producing useful evidence and had a tendency to cherry-pick and misrepresent information to bolster their own unsupported claims. At least according to the state department.
Sounds familiar....
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Well for one, I try to bring specific examples and references to a discussion which is definitely not "threadshitting". You got called out for repeating the same unsubstantiated party line/talking point over and over while strenuously objecting to voicing a specific opinion on the issue at hand because it looks a hell of a lot like trolling.