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  1. Yes, a lot what ifs. You’re right I don’t think the 49ers go for 2 if they score the TD. They didn’t know Reid’s strategy. Or at least I’m not sure that was referenced leading up to the game. Not all coaches are going for 2 in that scenario though. But if you tell me it’s pointless to argue that SF goes for 2 is just as irrelevant as saying Reid would go for 2. Neither happened. We don’t know how that plays out. Certainly neither scenario impacted the outcome. To me, not going on 4th and 4 is worse than taking the ball first. You are saying the Chiefs never had any intention of it getting to the 3rd possession. You may well be right. But you just stated you weren’t assuming Mahomes was scoring a TD. That’s counter to Shanahan trusting his defense and the assumption that Reid will allow a 3rd possession. When Shanahan decided to receive, all options, all outcomes were on the table. He had to choose based on that. Anything subsequent to that was irrelevant as to whether it was a good or reasonable decision. Based on the outcome, it was the wrong decision. Anyway, good discussion. You’re welcome to the final word. I do think future strategies may be different based on how this played out.
  2. Obviously we’re talking opinion here. Whatever was chosen was not a sure fire thing. So honestly any choice can be justifiable. Basically what you’re saying is that you think Mahomes is scoring a TD. If you give them the ball first and if they score a TD, go for 2 and get it. Then the 49ers are behind the 8 ball. 4th and 1, maybe 2 anywhere on the field, Reid is probably going for it. Had the Chiefs been 4th and 8 from the SF 25 down 3, they are likely kicking the FG. If they get the ball first with same down and distance, they’re likely kicking the FG. It’s not as though every single 4th down decision would be made differently simply because KC got the ball last. I’d also say that anyone that made up their mind and never considered that the 49ers could score the TD and get the 2 pointer first has a major shortcoming in their thought process. Going with the assumption that the second possession is the only one that allows for 4 down territory is wrong too and ignores the way football is played today.
  3. Intentional grounding has to stay. That’s a possession changer. If there’s no rule, dudes will be trying to throw everything. The eye is the sky official for the NFL is good. Give him more power to overrule crappy calls particularly roughing the passer. College needs this.
  4. The single best way to control the game is to not only score the TD first but go for two. If that happens you control the remainder of the game. If you’re convinced the other guy goes for two if you possess it first, then it’s marginal difference in the two point play whether your offense or defense. I do believe most teams feel confident their O can convert the two. So let your O be the first to go for it. There is absolutely nothing to say the team getting the ball first cannot play similarly as though they get it last. You can pretty easily do that once you hit midfield or so. So again 4th and 4 on the KC 9, go for it. If you miss it, they still have to travel 50 yards to get a 68% chance of Butker kicking the winner. Imagine the hell Shanahan gets foregoing that FG. But that was probably the worse decision in OT from a retrospective look.
  5. It was a reasonable decision. Once the game progressed his decision to go on 4th and 4 at the Chiefs 9 was questionable but not indefensible. At that point, you’re trading 56 yards to get into FG range versus 75 for the TD when the Chiefs get the ball. Once the Chiefs passed the 49ers 35 on their actual possession, the Chiefs are likely to kick the FG on anything more than 4th and 2 to tie. The biggest factor that I don’t think was known until later was that the Chiefs go for 2 if they score. All this was decided knowing that KCs only TD was a 16 yard possession so there are a considerable number of factors in taking the ball first.
  6. He was considered a tweener. If you look at his combine numbers, they were respectable for speed/agility from what I recall.
  7. Sorry for talking football. Perhaps a bit of a tangent and too many words, but it’s a daily struggle to find ways to be unproductive at work. So here I am annoying the hell out of others. But back on topic. JJ sucks and was the beneficiary of his stellar teammates and coaches. He’s destined to be a bust at the next level.
  8. Mecole was not on the Chiefs in the preseason so obviously his team at that time didn’t prep either. Or he missed that day. My guess is that had Shanahan known Reid goes for 2 he might choose differently. His initial thought, which would be sound, is that worst case we both score TDs. More possessions trumps 4 down territory cause 4th and 5 from the 49ers 25 the Chiefs probably tie it.
  9. Semantics I suppose. Again my original point was that Purdy had some good skill talent around him with the centerpiece being Hall even though I didn’t say that specifically. With Hall you have a bit of proof at the NFL level that says he’s a 3 down back. If you read draft profiles, he was viewed differently then than Corum is now. The stats and projections reflect doubts that Corum is a 3 down back although I’m sure he’d be fine. Halls start in the NFL supports that his talent was worthy of a high pick and that he’s effective in the run and pass game. It wouldn’t surprise me if Corum becomes a pro bowl type player. It would surprise me if he caught 75 passes in a season. In college, Halls yards per carry trended upwards. Corums went the other way. Hall caught 45% more passes at 9 yards per catch versus 7.3 per catch. Rushing TDs, yards per carry were the same or in the same ballpark. All with the assumption that UMs Oline was better. You can also go into PFFs database and see that Hall broke more tackles/forced missed tackles in total but on a per carry/touch basis too. I think Corums worst year was 2023 in that regard same as his yards per carry. Ignore whatever you like, but I bet only one of us played RB in college. Thats a joke. For the most part anyway.
  10. Which begs the question about Mahomes parents. They never get shown. Where are they?
  11. I would assume the clocked is needed to switch ends of the field too after completion of the quarter. Not necessarily a huge deal here but if played outdoors or in some dome in which kicking is more difficult, it could matter. Again an assumption, but the clock runs just as though it’s another full game.
  12. What you are underestimating is the ability of many a coach to screw things up. So for that Mahomes is lucky. Reid’s damn lucky to have him. Super Bowl wins and stats are overvalued when it comes to greatness. When the Bucs beat the Chiefs, I thought Mahomes made incredible plays, but his receivers dropped two TDs - hit them in the head. When the Chiefs lost to the Bengals, the OT interception hit Tyreek in the damn head. Yesterday, Mahomes was effective largely the last two drives. That only happens because the D keeps the 49ers in check. So many things matter when winning and losing. Mahomes is the best QB there’s been. If he blows out both knees in game 1 next year, that is how he should be remembered.
  13. I don’t. Mahomes is great, but their defense won this postseason. Just like the Bucs won theirs. Manning’s Broncos D won theirs. If you’re into stats, check out Burrows versus the Chiefs to get them into the Super Bowl. Then check out Purdys versus the Packers and last night. Even the run game stats, sacks. Then consider the narratives of the QBs after those games.
  14. What about damn near knocking over his old ass coach on the sideline?
  15. You can likely make this argument for virtually anyone in the game of football. Environment, culture and scheme have everything to do with an individuals success and often failures.
  16. I used the goalline as an example because at some point Corum had 20 rushing TDs or thereabouts from the 5 yard line and in. Corum has 58 career rushing TDs. Hall had 50 career rush TDs. And UMs Oline puts ISUs to shame right? If so, that means Corums job is easier. But are you saying Corum is undoubtedly better at the goalline? I’ve never said Hall was significantly above Corum in shit. But based on available information, it’s within reason to say Hall is the better overall player. It’s also reasonable to say you can be comfortable with Hall in your backfield in any situation - short yardage, 3rd and long, 1st and 10, two-minute.
  17. Just remember a team ERA of 4.00 is good.
  18. We probably had more pressure than they did against us, but Penix made several guys miss. There are numbers that support this. Michigan had 23 pressures on 53 dropbacks. We had 20 on 39 dropbacks. Burke and Murphy missed. Penix was 10-13 (77%) beyond 10 yards. Pressure or not that’s a very high rate. Very late in the season QE had the highest completion % in the country on intermediate routes (10-19 yards). He was at 71%. For a full season, you’d be hard pressed to find many QBs that hit 60% beyond 10 yards. QE was 58%. Your Heisman winner was at 63% at that range because he was incredible at the deep ball. Caleb W 55%. Drake M 51%.
  19. Based on what? There’s been considerable discussion about the secondary coaches not being his selections and also dissatisfaction with those guys. Obviously, there’s an attempt to upgrade the secondary as they let two former starters walk. Those seem to be indicators a bit beyond his control. At least one metric of performance had our defense ranked higher than the offense ( DFEI-7th/OFEI-17th). We played 4 top 10 offenses, 1 top 10 defense. UW was 6th in offense, 26th in defense. Critique of the Sugar Bowl leans heavily towards the D but the offense is at least equally at fault. Not only do the stats say the UW offense is clearly more effective than their defense, but the NFL mocks/scouting reports are indicating that as well. 5 offensive guys in the top 75 or so and 1 defensive guy. A 6th offensive guy is anywhere from a 3rd to 6th round projection. And the flip side is that we have 3 top 45 or so pass catchers, the banged up top RB (didn’t even start our first game) against our two DTs. You’d be hard pressed to find any Texas opponent ever with a 3 deep WR corp, a QB, and pass protecting Tackles drafted as high as this group. These aren’t freshmen projecting greatness in the future. They’ve done it. Unfortunately Penix was on and it didn’t matter that our strength was Sweat/Murphy. There’s no reason for us to fall off. The offense should be able to bury some teams. They only did that to OSU this year. If the offensive line is to maul guys, next year is it.
  20. Damn bandwagoner waitlisters. Not only would you not take tickets at a discounted price in the down times you’re going to cost us true fans more in the good times.
  21. I’m anti Cowboys, but I thought this dude was special. Underrated.
  22. I aspire to be like HenryJames every day.
  23. It won’t answer your question but you got me curious. From PFF, they track big time throws and turnover worthy plays. Purdy 2018 - 20 to 11 2019 - 21 to 20 2020 - 13 to 17 2021 - 11 to 13 On a percentage basis his freshman year was easily the best year of big throw which was 2-3 times higher than his last two years. Also, 2018 his deep ball completion % was 54% and 41% in 2021. His junior year was his lowest at 33%. I’d assume any early mocks are before NFL people fully evaluate and start weighing in. There are quite a few QBs with hardware that had limited looks in the NFL so that doesn’t necessarily correlate.
  24. 1989 is the ultimate gut punch. And I largely just followed that team through the AAS.
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