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Bartles

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  1. I wasn't endorsing that strategy, just pointing out that's what tends to happen eventually. The point is if you take a little pause of a few weeks, the sick and death numbers would be way better because spreaders recover rather than keep spreading. And the economic carnage is coming regardless, quite possibly worse because of our rush to send people back into danger.
  2. Here's a relevant blog post: How the Pandemic Ends Historians point out that pandemics tend to have a "social end" before they have a medical end. Who gets to set the timing and terms of that end is much more defined by politics, money and power than science. So what workswithseed (why not weed?) is suggesting is actually going to come to pass nationwide at some point. Most of us would prefer to get a few steps closer to the medical end, but it looks like we're all getting Leeroy Jenkins'd into dealing with whatever happens much sooner.
  3. "There is no plan of action" answers your own question. People need to stay in until there is a plan to SAFELY go back. That means masks, distancing and hygiene; all of which are really easy and yet all these people who are so concerned about their country can't seem to comply. Also need a plan JUST IN CASE some hotspots flare up. Like quarantining and tracing, maybe shutting certain areas down again at least briefly. But that means the same people need to acknowledge that there's at least a possibility the virus is real and could start jumping around even among healthy young people.
  4. The high numbers are concerning though, looks like around 400/day in the metroplex. That's a lot of new people every day being reported. Many likely were not quarantined yet and thus infected multiple others. And obviously the slope of the line in Dallas and Tarrant is not good
  5. The first two sentences above do not align with the other sentences. If anything, that environment indicates there will definitely be football (maybe no fans). If such a thing had truly been decided, it would have leaked almost immediately.
  6. I just meant they are using much stronger language than usual for a blueblood case. I don't expect them to follow through successfully
  7. For sports purposes, I would delete the word "vaccine" from our vocabulary for the 2020 calendar year. The hurdles for mass-producing a vaccine are enormous and time consuming. And how to define whether it works is very much in question, same as with flu vaccines. *cracking door into cloak room* It wouldn't be surprising to see a major vaccine announcement in September or October, but nothing that will actually be put into practice in the near future.
  8. Paying players in return for endorsements, after a very public rule change, is completely different than leaning on adidas to pay recruits and their families to come to your school in the first place, which will remain a major violation in the foreseeable future. The Snoop Dogg stuff is typical sprinkles added to a case to give the committee an overall sense of KU's disdain for the rules. The ruling will hinge on whether the investigators think the level of involvement KU granted adidas in the payment/recruiting process was large enough to classify as a booster. I would doubt that works, but as the IndyStar article points out, the new NCAA "jury" consists of investigators from private firms with national security backgrounds. No more former ADs and campus eggheads. And whatever they rule is binding with no right to appeal.
  9. Paraphrasing a Salon column the other day, the Kevins would rather die as maskless warriors than surrender their control and manhood to some invisible virus that's scaring all the liberals. It's a classic fascist trait:
  10. I mean, it could be really different but would be nice to have some type of season, right? It wouldn't be college football if massive groups of fans didn't feel aggrieved.
  11. That's similar to California, all it really confirms is no fans at games. They aren't specific about whether a football game with maybe 350-400 people in a huge stadium would be considered safe. Not that I blame them at this point, let's see how things work overseas first.
  12. I'm still of the belief they want to be able to power through if say two or fewer people on the team (not just players) test positive at the same time. But that can obviously blow up quickly. Story from S. Korea says one guy went clubbing and infected at least 13 people. And they are supposedly being careful. We (sort of) joke about players having sex but that's a real thing, or so I assume. There will be girls around - women's teams, cheer teams and more. If everyone seems healthy, there will be...spreading. We may learn some things from the foreign sports just starting up, especially when soccer gets going as that's got more contact.
  13. Why does that FB group say "created about three years ago" ? Also clicking on a couple "moderators" makes me think it's a lulz page
  14. It's worth mentioning South Korea was averaging lower than 13 new cases per day for several weeks, and now this one guy has caused more than that in a single night of clubbing. No way the US would be able to identify and trace so quickly - at least for the moment, we don't hear many calls to open up dance clubs over here though. Guess just a cultural thing that SK would be so careful for months and then allow karaoke, night clubs, etc. to open.
  15. Good for the NCAA for standing up for itself for a change. Of course, if their case hinges on adidas being a booster, that's gonna be a tough sell to the infractions committee because I don't think such a thing has ever been ruled on before. This was a good column in the Indianapolis Star about the new penalty procedure. It's pretty much an unknown right now, but one thing that's clear is that once penalties are announced, that's the end of it. No more gutting the rulings in appeals. And that scares the fuck out of the schools.
  16. 15 minutes in, ESPN does game-by-game predictions for...Tampa Bay Ryan Clark has them 11-5
  17. Ha, I knew the "there will be no football if students aren't on campus" was bullshit posturing. Now the party line is, on-line classes count as campus being open. Brett McMurphy article All the execs share some version of this, with one anonymous guy saying it's a "bad look" but as long as some other students are there, it will work. They also fire some warning shots about how they're willing to play even if some conference members do not...in other words, if Cal wants its full share of TV money, they better get their pads on and hit the field.
  18. Cheerleaders are a nice touch. I was thinking college football will probably have them even if no fans are in stadiums. Probably the bands too, assuming they can spread out a little.
  19. Good call, Adam Scott looked bizarre. I thought it would be worked into the storyline somehow, like he was doing crossfit or something. But I guess that's just how he looks now.
  20. I think the plateau will last around a month. We just have a huge population living in/near poverty, and also a huge elderly population. Their lifestyles don't allow them to fight off the virus. They have no choice but to mingle with others in service jobs, food banks, shelters, nursing homes, etc. Not mot mention their own overcrowded homes in many cases. The media attention naturally goes to the dumbass spring breakers, the Karens and the NRA cultists. All of whom will also have cases, but it's the poor/old group that keeps the numbers sky-high.
  21. I agree with y'all. It' s just that we may be in about the same spot, testing-wise and treatment-wise, in March 2021 as we are in September 2020. That's why I can see them giving it a go, more or less on time. By then we'll know how things went with foreign sports and even some of our own like MLB and MLS. Definitely hard to visualize right now when most of the country is still locked down, barely any hotels in use, flights, etc. And the aforementioned death count.
  22. This is where frequent testing is so important. The teammates - if they continue to test negative - can be safely released much sooner. Maybe the original guy was false positive, or it was dead RNA, or simply a very mild form of the virus. Still risky, but welcome to 2020 sports. But if it's like the Jazz-Thunder game where people on both sides popped up as positive, there will be no choice but to shut it down. We'll have a good example soon with Korean baseball. They have procedures in place to just stop everything for a couple weeks, though I'm not sure what the trigger point will be.
  23. My guess: they'll have procedures in place, most likely 1-2 sporadic positives will just be isolated while everything continues. But two or more teammates or participants from the same game will probably shut the whole team(s) down for two weeks. That could be as inconvenient as the annual hurricane postponements or it could bring the whole sport to a stop. Not having ticketed fans makes re-scheduling easier FWIW. The biggest hurdle, as with everything in the US, is lack of consistent and reliable testing. Everyone is just hoping that can be improved dramatically by September, but it's hard to see right now.
  24. Thought they all found their characters again really well. Loved the minor character drop-ins especially Dennis (but missed Jean Ralphio's sister). The sound/video from Aziz was pretty weak but otherwise technically really good show. Hope it got a huge rating and maybe can spur some other quarantine episodes just for something fresh.
  25. Also today, Iowa said they plan to open campus June 1 and that includes allowing college athletes to practice and work out. And Bowlsby was on Sirius XM where he seemed to indicate that he thinks football will start some time during the fall, but he is worried that all sports will have to stop-and-start based on outbreaks. He is concerned that CFP and March Madness will get canceled. I'm paraphrasing the DMN summary of his interview, I assume he was qualifying all that as hypothetical
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