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Bartles

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  1. If the anti-maskers continue to win people over, I would have a hard time getting on a plane. If I'm making a work trip, chances are things have calmed enough that many others will book flights as well, including lots of freedom lovers. I actually trust the airlines on safety for the most part, but the airport experience and especially the other passengers scare the fuck out of me right now. I wish some airline would do contact tracing, but no way that happens because they might not like the results a couple weeks after each flight.
  2. ^ You are correct. We're in the lull where people foresaw takes exactly like the Haake tweets, celebrating numbers that go back before easing of restrictions. Around Memorial Day is when we can expect to see those numbers rising. But it could work out. Hopefully the lessons learned from March combined with continued protection of the elderly will make it more of a mini-jump than a spike.
  3. I did Kimmy Schmidt and enjoyed the experience 😏
  4. Great video put together by Caesar's. That's what you have to do to save your industry. Hope it's not all for folly. Slots/video and sports books seem pretty easy to fire back up with physical distancing. Maybe that revenue can start to get them out of the abyss, especially if/when USA sports start to come back.
  5. The thing about Riley's comments is there's a consensus that CFB players would be safer on campus than in their hometowns. Probably true in a lot of places. But he's right in terms of bringing them back would mean a ton of activity in general, and that would cause virus flareups for sure. I wish the question "What if one player tests positive" would get backburnered for a while. They could lock the US down until August 2021 and there would be a chance one player would test positive coming back. There is no good answer today, but there will be a better answer in a few months and an even better answer next year. Observe what happens overseas (Bundesliga at the moment) and things will come into focus.
  6. I admit I was a mask non-believer before I had read much about it. Definitely remember the Vox tweets. It made sense that these things on an individual basis don't stop many particles from escaping. In simpler times, we would see all these Asians in airports wearing them, but never hear about outbreaks at airports so it felt unnecessary. Of course nowadays, it makes even more sense that if the masks are decent quality and worn correctly, and everyone is wearing them, the percentage of particles getting blocked rises a great deal. And we can see what a difference it makes in controlling spread.
  7. Damn right. Fox animators already drawing up Philly fans throwing full Bud Lights (official sponsor) at visiting families
  8. The open up/anti mask group is perfectly consistent: government is bad and can't be allowed to succeed at anything A huge percentage of them are also motivated by forcing others to suffer as backlash for their own lives not going as they hoped. They have no problem hurting themselves as long as others get hurt even more. They'll always have a major media voice because they are strong dramatic characters for the storyline.
  9. Here's how we roll in Pennsylvania, restaurants still take-out only...
  10. As is often pointed out, all the NCAA does is administer championships and oversee rules as determined by the member schools and conferences. With the Pac-12, would it be much different than when UAB sat out a couple years? There would still be decent appeal to revive those programs in 2021 and beyond. They have the financial and political clout to get an auto bid to the expanded playoff whenever it happens.
  11. I don't want to overreact at the start of negotiations, especially since neither side has any reason to budge before early June. But fuck the owners if they shut it down because they'd lose $150 million instead of (wild guess) losing $120 million. I'm sure their accountants can game it out like it never happened either way. And they can find other revenue streams with no fans. Merchandise sales, paid zoom pre-game clubhouse access (or in-game dugout access), open the parking lots like drive-in theaters. Like Beau Vine said, if there's no season it's purely a move to crush the union.
  12. Even using Newy's stats, that's like telling a team in September, "Ok, four of you are going to be hospitalized with COVID this season. And one of you is going to die from it. TEAM ON 3! 1-2-3..." But he's not exactly wrong, that is the world we all will be living in. If the precautions can be made sound enough, organized sports can outperform the numbers.The trouble is, our whole country has to navigate the minefield just to get to that point, and we aren't exactly on the same page on how to do that at the moment.
  13. Eating my weekend budget at a single craps session, mainly. Hell, I'm not usually at a table long enough to get a significant dose of virus even if it was floating around.
  14. Bowlsby already dangled the "on-line classes count as campus being open" rationale. But one can see the CA hierarchy not going for that bullshit. Many states are gonna have to prepare multiple strategies and talking points based on how their virus numbers look as summer begins. Gonna be messy, or at least we should hope it is...the alternative is the virus steps up and makes folly of all these plans
  15. I agree, the players will have no public support for very understandable reasons. But I do suspect the difference in amount owed (prorated vs. pct of total revenue) is a drop in the bucket to most owners. And we don't know for sure there won't be fan revenue of some sort, like if they can sell parking lots for socially-distanced tailgating, etc. Really hope it gets worked out soon, but being a sports labor dispute, I'm sure it will be ugly and drag until the last moment
  16. They don't WANT to the capacity. Trump can DPA order right this minute to mobilize hundreds of facilities to begin to produce needed materials. Authorize money for production of chemical reagents. Should have happened months ago, but weeks ago would have helped too. Doing it tomorrow would help. But he's simply never going to do it, and yeah "evil" is a perfect word.
  17. But the Abbott tests aren't very reliable. Presumably the White House has some top of the line version that produces results within a couple hours at most. As to why we can't all have such testing, well that's basically the subtopic of the year. The short answer is because the federal government doesn't want people to get tested. The longer logistical answer involves scarcity of materials, administrative fuck-ups dating back years, and the simple fact that the science on this is difficult (viruses change over time, immunity level varies, etc). The longer political answer is all over this thread, but pretty much comes back to Trump/GOP trying to get re-elected using their usual cruel, divisive process. The more chaos and anger, the better his chances in November.
  18. Bartles

    SNL 45

    I liked most sketches, What's Wrong With This Picture? probably my favorite. And a strong WU for a change, including Tina's bit. I'm glad we're done with these though, the whole premise gets a little more depressing with each new episode. You would think and hope they can get back in 8H next fall, maybe with a smaller audience (I know it's tight already).
  19. Agree with LF68 ^. Also, I spend too much time reading about this shit every day, and I honestly have seen NO ONE advocating keeping lockdowns going until a vaccine or cure is available. No one, not in media, on blogs, message boards. Most of my "side" is aligned with what Pig Bellmont wrote in #1328 above. Open up ASAP...but do it safely, which actually shouldn't take that long
  20. We're all in the same system though. UT football is more likely to get tests on demand than Rice. But Rice is more likely to get them than you and your buddies. And you are more likely to get tested than a Wendy's cashier. Even widespread complaining from fans, not to mention non-fans, isn't going to change any of that.
  21. I'm opposed to neutral sites (for sports return in general) because I prefer to have teams hire at least some of their own employees to stage the games. But for EPL purposes there could be some horrible spreading incidents with crowds outside the stadium. Maybe that would happen anyway, as people gather to watch on the telly. I can't imagine what some Liverpool residents are going through, weighing how to celebrate as a community but without starting a new outbreak in the process.
  22. I wasn't endorsing that strategy, just pointing out that's what tends to happen eventually. The point is if you take a little pause of a few weeks, the sick and death numbers would be way better because spreaders recover rather than keep spreading. And the economic carnage is coming regardless, quite possibly worse because of our rush to send people back into danger.
  23. Here's a relevant blog post: How the Pandemic Ends Historians point out that pandemics tend to have a "social end" before they have a medical end. Who gets to set the timing and terms of that end is much more defined by politics, money and power than science. So what workswithseed (why not weed?) is suggesting is actually going to come to pass nationwide at some point. Most of us would prefer to get a few steps closer to the medical end, but it looks like we're all getting Leeroy Jenkins'd into dealing with whatever happens much sooner.
  24. "There is no plan of action" answers your own question. People need to stay in until there is a plan to SAFELY go back. That means masks, distancing and hygiene; all of which are really easy and yet all these people who are so concerned about their country can't seem to comply. Also need a plan JUST IN CASE some hotspots flare up. Like quarantining and tracing, maybe shutting certain areas down again at least briefly. But that means the same people need to acknowledge that there's at least a possibility the virus is real and could start jumping around even among healthy young people.
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