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Mane - Kepa - Mane! 

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We fucking did it! GET IN! Going to be tough to top last year.  Feels pretty damn great to be Premier League champions and finish on 99 points. Supercup and Club World Cup winners as well. All th

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Well, it was cool to make it this far with as bad as we've been since December. Time to focus on getting top 4 and running it back next year. 

I can't really fault the effort.  the execution for sure, but part of that has to be a tip of the hat to RM.  

Guys played hard.  This version isn't as good at the moment.

As I'm typing, Mo puts it out for a corner.

 

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10 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

1 goal in 190 minutes. Can’t really blame missing VVD/Gomez for that.
We have 9/11 of our CL winning side available. 

Oh sure. We just are what we are. A shell of last season's team. Bobby has dropped off a cliff. Mane has slipped. Henderson being out hurt. Inexperience in the backfield hurt in the first leg. 

I'm really not that upset as this team needs a fan base to feed off of and they don't have it. I didn't think we had much of a chance today. So much of Liverpool's success is feeding off the crowd. That's gone until next season. 

I think it's time to start looking at moving on from Bobby and Sadio. I love both but I think the quality of each has diminished and it's time to look for someone new at their spots. I just want top 4 to keep FSG from going full implosion mode. 

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Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp faces questions on recruitment after Champions League exit to Real Madrid

By Phil McNultyChief football writer

Liverpool's all-conquering season that brought them the club's first league title in 30 years seemed an age away as they were eliminated by Real Madrid in the Champions League quarter-final at a deserted Anfield.

Jurgen Klopp's side, who carried all before them in the league last season, are now left with only the Premier League's top four - and a place in Europe's elite competition next term - to aim for if they are to salvage something from this fragmented, disappointing, injury-hit campaign.

As Zinedine Zidane's players celebrated a professional job that saw them set up a Champions League semi-final against Chelsea, Klopp was left to ponder Liverpool's fall from grace in the past 12 months.

He will no doubt face calls from frustrated Reds fans to revamp a squad that has served him and the club magnificently in recent seasons - indeed the social media jury was already delivering that knee-jerk verdict moments after elimination.

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The manager, quite rightly, will guard against over-reaction. Liverpool have achieved too much and have too many high-class players for that - but that does not mean he does not have serious questions to consider.

So does this Liverpool squad really need a major overhaul, or just minor renewal?

A team as good as Liverpool have been seems an unlikely candidate for an extensive rebuild - but fresh faces can create momentum, renewal and a new mood, and this group has been together a long time.

When Liverpool and Real met in the Champions League final in Kyiv in 2018, Klopp's line-up included seven of those who started at Anfield on Wednesday.

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Liverpool are winless in their past five games against Real Madrid in the Champions League

And in those intervening three years Liverpool have continued to lean heavily on those seven starters from Kyiv on all fronts.

They have been carrying a very heavy workload for a long time and while the likes of Diogo Jota, who has been excellent, and Thiago Alcantara, who has not, have lightened the load in phases this season, Liverpool's squad and best starting line-up still has a very familiar look to it. It is inevitable it has taken its toll.

Injuries have been the backdrop to all of Liverpool's efforts this season and their inspirational leader - and one of the world's finest central defenders - Virgil van Dijk is expected to be fit for the start of next season after the serious knee injury that has kept him out since September.

Joe Gomez, another fine talent, should also be back after a similar injury but there is no question a central defensive reinforcement is required. It remains to be seen whether it will be Ozan Kabak, currently on loan from Schalke, or RB Leipzig's outstanding 24-year-old Ibrahima Konate. Nat Phillips has been excellent but Klopp needs more strength and quality.

Klopp has plenty of resources in midfield but Georginio Wijnaldum's reluctance to sign a new contract points towards his departure while Jordan Henderson, still a huge influence at 30, has been sorely missed in his injury absences.

Thiago was meant to be a tempo-dictating game-changer after arriving from last season's Champions League winners Bayern Munich but he has struggled, and it was significant that he did not start in either leg of this quarter-final when these looked like the sort of games he had been signed to play in.

Liverpool are relaxed about any speculation on Mohamed Salah's future. The Egyptian is 29 in June but is still of such world class that he would command a huge fee. It would be a major shock if any situation developed where he left Anfield this summer.

The complications may arise if Liverpool fail to reach next season's Champions League, a real possibility as they currently stand sixth, three points behind surprise package West Ham in fourth.

The idea of dropping into Europe's lesser competitions may exercise the minds of the likes of Salah.

Jota has been a major success since his £45m summer arrival from Wolves and Liverpool will look to him to offer competition, respite and support for their main three forwards next season - although Roberto Firmino's indifferent form means he may face a real fight for his place from the Portuguese.

But even if Liverpool do not finish in the Champions League places this is a time for measured judgements and careful recruitment, rather than for tearing down the monument to success that has brought Klopp and his players the European and domestic glory in the two preceding seasons.

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A few questions for Klopp this season.  The reluctance to start Kabak/Phillips and I guess Davies, maybe even a younger guy.  Also playing Jota(and probably others) in the Midgetland game when it was a dead rubber.  

For me, the season started a bit slow, and then went disastrous with the injuries, but not sure keeping Fabinho and then Henderson back there so long was effective.  Hard to remember we still lead the league after Christmas.

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A few questions for Klopp this season.  The reluctance to start Kabak/Phillips and I guess Davies, maybe even a younger guy.  Also playing Jota(and probably others) in the Midgetland game when it was a dead rubber.  



I think what most people don’t realize is how much star players want to play and start in champions league games, even if it is a dead rubber. The CL is by far the biggest soccer competition in Egypt, Senegal, Portugal, The Netherlands etc...

Klopp probably had Salah, Jota, Mane and on and on in his office the week leading up to Midtyjlland asking to start. They aren’t going to be happy with Leighton Clarkson and 10 other kids starting.


Also, these guys have significant bonuses in their contract for goals, assists, starts, appearances, clean sheets in Champions League games. 

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