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1 hour ago, tokamak said:

I still cannot wrap my head around How to Train Your Dragon getting a live action remake. Zero interest in seeing that. Evidently I’m in the minority. 

I felt the same way before I took my kids to see it.  It was terrific, considerably better than any of the Disney live action remakes I have seen. 

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10 hours ago, Chips O'Toole said:

I felt the same way before I took my kids to see it.  It was terrific, considerably better than any of the Disney live action remakes I have seen. 

I assume tokamak is referring to the weirdness of watching a remake that current day 5 year-olds already know the plot points for, beat by beat, rather than any judgement on quality. At least with things like the Lion King you could make the argument that today's youth viewed the original as "that super old cartoon my parents made me watch once." This and the Moana most kids already have memorized.

Though, I guess trying to capture the feeling of "my favorite part is coming up" in a movie that they've technically never seen is kind of driving the film industry at the moment.

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We'll see it when they have the Moana live action in 2026. A movie that's one of the most popular streams on Disney+ and barely 10 years old. 

It's wild to me that these live action remakes are destroying the box office of their animated predecessors. Lilo & Stitch was only a modest hit for Disney back in 2002. 

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14 hours ago, tokamak said:

I still cannot wrap my head around How to Train Your Dragon getting a live action remake. Zero interest in seeing that. Evidently I’m in the minority. 

My 18yo saw it, loved it and said it was about as good as the animated original. That surprised me. 

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17 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

don’t necessarily think Pixar’s quality has dropped, but its marketing surely has.

Yeah, I have a kid in elementary school and one in middle school and had no idea it was out.  Lilo and Stitch live-action?  Knew when it was coming out weeks in advance.  Toys, advertising, trailers.

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14 hours ago, Chips O'Toole said:

I felt the same way before I took my kids to see it.  It was terrific, considerably better than any of the Disney live action remakes I have seen. 

I think the fact that they copied the original plot point for point without any variations AND added more cool flying dragon scenes is probably what did it.

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23 hours ago, mdmost said:

Elemental ended up making 496M worldwide and was a good story. If you look at the top grossing Pixar movies, the top 5 are all sequels.  Elio had 84% on Rotten Tomatoes and an A score on Cinemascore. 

Yeah I remember the articles and posts about it being a flop early, but the word of mouth of it spread and by the end of summer was considered a success...not normal in today movie climate of make a shit ton in the first 2-3 weeks then fuck off.

17 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:


Elemental would be considered a masterpiece if it came out during the early Pixar era. It’s a phenomenal movie that for some reason got absolutely zero publicity.

I don’t necessarily think Pixar’s quality has dropped, but its marketing surely has.

Agreed...I actually loved it quite a bit...even more than Inside Out 2(the first one is one of my fave pixar movies ever)

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I have kids who are 5 and 8 and they have no interest in Elio.  I'm very interested in the effect Disney+ (and other streamers) is having on the original animated film issues.  I think there is just so much available now that if they want something new, it's right there for them.  Why go to the theater for something new?  They're much more interested in the continuing (or regurgitated) adventures of their favorites.  

When we were little, we still had our favorites, but we didn't have direct access to new things, so it was exciting when a new movie was coming.  It's the same issue with movies in general, but worse with kids since they just don't care where they see things. 

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I saw Elio today.  Felt like Pixar made a movie for the parents of kids, not necessarily for kids.

There were some 80's and 90's movie shout outs for older folks like me.  Carl Sagan and the Voyager probes are featured, which was great for me since I remember Carl Sagan and the Voyager probes.  Maybe not as great for a five year old who is wondering who the heck is talking.  I liked the movie, but I've been down the parent path.  Kids can probably skip this one.

The animation was fantastic.  They need stories with a broader appeal.  Kid fish gets lost.  Dad fish has to find kid fish.  Something like that.

The trailers, all for other kid's movies, all appeared to suck.  Not a great summer for the munchkins at the movies.

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