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5 hours ago, Park Gothic said:

I've gone back and watched the game twice now, because I hate myself. I am in complete agreement with you. Sark started off with a somewhat vanilla game plan, although not nearly as vanilla as people have been saying. The more I watch, the more I see open pass catchers that Arch didn't even try to hit. And that's on top of the times he made the right reads but fucked up the throw. 

Sark didn't kill it with this game but there was a lot of meat that Arch left on the bone. This is especially true in the red zone. Sark actually called several TD plays while we were in the redzone. And this is something that I was initially furious about and am having to retract my statements about Sark's playcalling. You know that frustratingly stupid "up the gut on 4th and short" call where there was no way we were going to get it? Sark schemed up two TD passes and a TD run in the series of plays before it. The guys just didn't execute. At that point I become more sympathetic to him just calling a simple play where he hopes we get lucky. Because what the fuck else can he do? Sark's RZ playcalling was much better than I remembered and it is baffling to see how poorly Arch executed it. 

I can't assume we win even if Arch makes all the right calls and throws because OSU would have changed it strategy as well. But man, we would have had a much better chance. 

Dark was saving a lot of his offense for San Jose State. No reason to top his hand in the first game. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, Levi said:

Sark said post game the first read was to Wingo. 

I am sure it was but he had a better opportunity. The problem here is you guys are judging in hindsight. The secondary can see where Arch is looking and therefore reacted to the outside throw the way they did. Now let him have turned his eyes toward Wingo and watch how fast that safety closes down on that throw. 

Posted
23 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I am sure it was but he had a better opportunity. The problem here is you guys are judging in hindsight. The secondary can see where Arch is looking and therefore reacted to the outside throw the way they did. Now let him have turned his eyes toward Wingo and watch how fast that safety closes down on that throw. 

I’m not judging in hindsight. I specifically said the picture going around would have gotten Wingo hurt if Arch decides to throw it then. He should have thrown the ball earlier when the rub/pick was set. The corner was trailing Wingo by his third step. Wingo had less reaction time with the safety screaming down on him on the seam route earlier in the game. We can agree to disagree on this one. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Levi said:

In order for Texas to be successful they had to be lighter in the box to help contain one of if not the best WR groups in college. And yet, the Ohio st Oline was barely able to get a consistent push against our front, only rushing for 77 yards at 2.3YPC. Ohio st has a pretty good Dline even if it’s not as deep as Texas. Their edges and LB core also played good and had some unknowns that are now on peoples radar. And we all know how good Downs is in the box and sniffing out runs. So I just have a hard time believing our Oline played bad while getting 4.5YPC with 3 to 4 new starters and blocking for a running back coming off a knee implosion. Paul seems to always be hypercritical of the lines, whether it’s not being tough enough or going on one of his S&C tirades that he loves to do. The Oline could have been better in certain situations but there was stuff outside of their control that had a bigger impact on the game. 

This is the thing I think is missed. The oline didn't dominate a light a box. True. But it held up a hell of damn bit better than OSU's "best of all time" oline versus our defense. I think, adjusting for the level of competition, our young oline performed pretty well. Not perfect, but good enough. They'll be better against lesser defenses.   

Posted

ThatGuy is wrong, the throw should have been to Wingo here for a 1st down on 4th and 3 He is wide open and the ball is still at the chest of arch coming off the pick

This is the safety just before Wingo comes open and you see his feet are parallel to the end zone so he's not actively heading toward wingo yet

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This is the moment wingo is officially open(well actually open slightly before this.

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This is the moment he starts to cock is arm for throw:

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At minimum this is a 1st down(if arch makes the throw and potentially Wingo scores if he's able to break a tackle or make safety miss.

Posted
46 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

ThatGuy is wrong, the throw should have been to Wingo here for a 1st down on 4th and 3 He is wide open and the ball is still at the chest of arch coming off the pick

This is the safety just before Wingo comes open and you see his feet are parallel to the end zone so he's not actively heading toward wingo yet

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This is the moment wingo is officially open(well actually open slightly before this.

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This is the moment he starts to cock is arm for throw:

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At minimum this is a 1st down(if arch makes the throw and potentially Wingo scores if he's able to break a tackle or make safety miss.

Dak and Cedee just completed a mirror of this. Nobody lost their heads. 

Posted (edited)
On 9/1/2025 at 4:42 PM, The Dog said:

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If somebody can get Arch to draw this giant dog/Triceratops with head knives and a rock helmet, I'll write a paper describing it as a new species in the Annals of Improbable Research, and submit it for consideration for the Ig Noble Prize. 

Lots of papers have been written describing different species of Triceratops based only on differences in their horn shape and neck frills. I'd have to check Arch's drawing against the published literature, but I'm fairly certain head knives and a rock helmet are unique morphological characteristics, never before described in ceratopsian dinosaurs. Or dogs. 

Arch is welcome to be co-author if he wants, but either way, I'd credit him as both the paleo artist and discoverer of the new species.  

Unless Arch has a strong preference for the species name, I'd start a poll and let surlyhorns posters name it. 

 

 

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Posted
54 minutes ago, Derka said:

i still can’t reconcile these two throws being from the same game:

 

 

I just don't want to see another stupid side arm the rest of the season... just throw with proper mechanics please

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his footwork ok that play gross as well, but that wasn’t just your run of the mill sidearm sling that’s been accepted practice since mahomes joined the nfl, that was deadass some uncle rico, noodle arm, i-don’t-know-how-to-throw-a-football garbage. total basura. comically bad, and totally puzzling. that throw alone has me sort of holding my breath, hoping to see the arch we saw in the 4q for the full four quarters on saturday.

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Derka said:

his footwork ok that play gross as well, but that wasn’t just your run of the mill sidearm sling that’s been accepted practice since mahomes joined the nfl, that was deadass some uncle rico, noodle arm, i-don’t-know-how-to-throw-a-football garbage. total basura. comically bad, and totally puzzling. that throw alone has me sort of holding my breath, hoping to see the arch we saw in the 4q for the full four quarters on saturday.

Truly hope it was the yips because there's no way to hide that shit in the past 2 years.  If he was that bad, it would have been obvious during practices

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