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1 hour ago, Chrispy said:

We’re not heading towards genocide, so rest easy my friend. Feel free to notice patterns when they happen, but they have not happened.

Cool I guess if you say so! lol

I mean, if I had said "Trump is going to take infants from their mothers and put them in internment camps" in November 2016 you wouldn't have said the same thing. :)

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

I haven't really been keeping up with all the ins and out of this e-spat ...

Man you're so cool and above it... will you fuck my wife?

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Just now, bad_teammate said:

I haven't asked her yet.

 Let me get back to you.

No thank you.  If you don't have a sense by now, I am not looking for a retraining exercise. I got 11 years invested in the current arrangement with a quite successful track record to date. 

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1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

No thank you.  If you don't have a sense by now, I am not looking for a retraining exercise. I got 11 years invested in the current arrangement with a quite successful track record to date. 

That's too bad. She said she's looking for a guy who nuts too fast and then pretends he only did it because he lost interest and couldn't be bothered to pay attention. Thought you'd be perfect.

We'll get 'em next time, though.

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3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

That's too bad. She said she's looking for a guy who nuts too fast and then pretends he only did it because he lost interest and couldn't be bothered to pay attention. Thought you'd be perfect.

We'll get 'em next time, though.

This guy might be just the choice:

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1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

We should invade and then colonize Mexico. Wall both borders and send ALL asylum seekers there. 

Confiscate the 25 billion a year from western Union (remittances) to fund it. Out source all of these jobs Americans don’t want to our new “labor” colony. Then send the 100k+ living in tents in California to also colonize. Maybe give everyone a free shipping container to outfit. 

Rape Mexico of all its natural resources. 

Problem solved. 

This post is not getting enough hate. This is the second time I have seen this suggested on these boards in the last couple of weeks. Last time was by CKHorn, whose name is similar enough to make me think it might be a sock of yours.

 

So yeah, why don't you lead the expedition down in to Mexico, Chickenhawk, and see if the Mexican people will welcome you as a liberator, as CKHorn believes would be the case.

 

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9 hours ago, XR4ticlone said:

No...US law is very clear.

You cannot just come live here because you want to...which is pretty much exactly how every other country in the world operates as well. 

Walking here from bubblefuck and showing up at the US border doesn't change anything...

Having kids with you doesn't change that...

This is why a WALL is critical.  

Mexico's new Hugo Chavez clone is going to butt fuck them into socialist hell...and we need a wall soon.  Nothing good comes from having this dip shit in charge of Mexico...and the border is going to be over run.

A majority of Mexicans picked this dip shit...they now get to suffer.  Life is full of choices...the bad ones you get to pay for.   Me...I'm sick and tired of paying for other peoples fuck ups and stupidity.  Build the wall...let Darwinism sort the rest out. 

 

holy shit you're retarded. 

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1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Cool I guess if you say so! lol

I mean, if I had said "Trump is going to take infants from their mothers and put them in internment camps" in November 2016 you wouldn't have said the same thing. :)

Man you're so cool and above it... will you fuck my wife?

You're gay?

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3 hours ago, Chrispy said:

We’re not heading towards genocide, so rest easy my friend. Feel free to notice patterns when they happen, but they have not happened.

Ah, yes, we’ll just be cool until the genocide actually starts. That way, when we complain then everyone will take it seriously and stop it. Because that’s totally how this works.

 

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4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

You think those pussies in Charlottesville could accomplish a genocide in 2018?

The worst of the south and all the racist northern urban areas couldn’t do shit 60 years ago.  

Um, those pussies are worried about white genocide. The both sides president out front should have told you.

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4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Kind of like all the good democrats have done for minorities the last 60 years. 

Demorats going from the Klan to Planned Parenthood is much more effective, plus the $ from selling the baby parts. There's a reason that stem cell research is banned in the US from Umbilical cords, despite it being more effective. It has to be a full-term normal birth...

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8 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

You guys are really worried about a genocide? Can you raise your hands if that’s a legit concern of yours?

I am not naive enough to think it's not possible. Am I "worried"? Not really, but I also wasn't worried that infants would be stripped from the arms of their mothers by the federal government a year ago, so what I'm "worried" about isn't as useful a metric as what is actually happening and how it matches up with historical patterns.

 

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7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The only way to stop genocide before it happens is to increase awareness of how it happens.

When The Great Dictator came out, it was banned in South American countries and protested by many here in America. It was basically the only popular contemporary movie that dealt directly with Hitler's ideology and confronted anti-Semitism. And this was a time when concentration camps were known to be operational (though not to the extent and extermination purpose we would later discover).

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9 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

You think those pussies in Charlottesville could accomplish a genocide in 2018?

The worst of the south and all the racist northern urban areas couldn’t do shit 60 years ago.  

I realize that talking to you about complex issues is like talking to a tree stump about physics, but...

Your idea that "pussies" could not "accomplish" genocide is a remarkable -- and telling -- one.

Genocide is not something that is accomplished by those with remarkable skill or talent. As Hannah Arendt painstakingly observed during Eichmann's trial for Nazi war crimes; evil is banal.

Of Eichman, Arendt said this:

"I was struck by a manifest shallowness in the doer which made it impossible to trace the incontestable evil of his deeds to any deeper level of roots or motives. The deeds were monstrous, but the doer—at least, the very effective one now on trial—was quite ordinary, commonplace, and neither monstrous nor demonic."

Of larger complicity and human nature, Arendt said this:

"For the lesson of such stories is simple and within everybody’s grasp. Politically speaking, it is that under conditions of terror most people will comply but some people will not, just as the lesson of the countries to which the Final Solution was proposed is that “it could happen” almost anywhere but it did not happen everywhere."

Adolf Eichmann was a fucking dork.

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People try to portray history's monsters in a way that separates them categorically from the mass of men, but the reality is that there is nothing really extraordinary about the people who carry out atrocity. Even if they are compelled by a powerful personality with extreme talent, the worker bees in a genocide are just regular people going along to get along.

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16 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

So they decided to separate the families without having that in place? And no plan to implement it?

How does stripping children from parents solve any of this?

But you can? You can see into the future that genocide is impossible on our continent? (Even though we white Americans have already done plenty of genocide.)

Point 1..

I think you could ask the same thing to Obama but the reality is that it takes time for these problems to make it up the chain of command.  Then once it gets there, they have to come up with solutions that work within the legal framework and get money for the solution.  If the solution within the legal framework still has holes, it's up to congress to write laws that address that.  Bush, Obama and Trump all asked Congress to get off their ass on this topic but they have been terrible regardless of which party is in charge.  That's why I don't think you can blame Obama or Trump for the problem.  Things like this take time to fix.

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Point 2.

Verifying the relationship between the minors and the adult accompanying the minor is pretty important because of the potential dangers the adults that aren't the parents pose to the child.  This article came out this morning... 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5946471/DOJ-adults-separated-kids-border-murderers-child-abusers-kidnappers.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

According the the US government, over the past 5 years 46 of the 103 small kids separated from their families were deemed unfit to be returned to the adult they traveled here with.  The natural response to this question is why?

-In multiple cases the Adult was not their parent

-One case an adult was accused of abusing the child in Mexico.

-One has a contagious disease.

-Multiple adults had been charged with murder and are in jail.

-Multiple adults had charged with kidnapping in Mexico.

 

So the batting average on these cases seem to be pretty high all things considered.  I wish we knew the exact number of cases of each thing, but I am in favor of separating children from child abusers, rapists and murderers.  I can assure you this is a better batting average than CPS.

The good news for those 46 kids is that even if they do not find a blood relative to take them in, they are guaranteed asylum under our current rules.  While foster care isn't an ideal situation, i'm sure that there are plenty of people out there that will be opening their arms and adopting them.

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Point 3.

I haven't committed genocide and I'm not going to take blame for any just because I might share the same skin pigment as someone who did.  If you use that criteria, no one is free from the genocide blame game.  Ever skin pigment has committed genocide on a mass scale.  Genocide is the #1 excuse people use to come here.  After white supremacists the cause of ethnic cleansing in South/Central America?  What about Africa?  Asia?  Middle east?  Ethnic groups have been murdering each other for thousands of years all over the world.  It's not something exclusive to this continent.  If anything, this is one of the few nations on earth that has grown above that kind of crap. 

You are using the same logic white supremacists use to claim superiority.  Since they can't claim whites are superior based on IQ (which they aren't), they now default to technological advances as their go to.  However, that's a flawed argument.  Just because some white dude 100 years ago invented something, doesn't mean a white dude working at Walmart gets to take credit for it.

Circling back..  You might think genocide is going to come to the USA but I don't see anything like that happening based on 46/103 small kids being separated from monsters that had them in their clutches.  Are you willing to sacrifice those 46 kids so that the 57 other kids don't have to be separated?  I am not.

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11 hours ago, David Dennison said:

The irony being nothing has changed for the people on the bottom who thought he'd save them.

Sad!

You haven't been paying attention to political promises over the last 50 years.  Of course, more of them are employed than ever before

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2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

I realize that talking to you about complex issues is like talking to a tree stump about physics, but...

Your idea that "pussies" could not "accomplish" genocide is a remarkable -- and telling -- one.

Genocide is not something that is accomplished by those with remarkable skill or talent. As Hannah Arendt painstakingly observed during Eichmann's trial for Nazi war crimes; evil is banal.

Of Eichman, Arendt said this:

"I was struck by a manifest shallowness in the doer which made it impossible to trace the incontestable evil of his deeds to any deeper level of roots or motives. The deeds were monstrous, but the doer—at least, the very effective one now on trial—was quite ordinary, commonplace, and neither monstrous nor demonic."

Of larger complicity and human nature, Arendt said this:

"For the lesson of such stories is simple and within everybody’s grasp. Politically speaking, it is that under conditions of terror most people will comply but some people will not, just as the lesson of the countries to which the Final Solution was proposed is that “it could happen” almost anywhere but it did not happen everywhere."

Adolf Eichmann was a fucking dork.

eich.jpg

People try to portray history's monsters in a way that separates them categorically from the mass of men, but the reality is that there is nothing really extraordinary about the people who carry out atrocity. Even if they are compelled by a powerful personality with extreme talent, the worker bees in a genocide are just regular people going along to get along.

You do realize that all famous genocides from the 20th century came from the radical left and totalitarianism 

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Just now, udaydanceparty said:

I think you could ask the same thing to Obama but the reality is that it takes time for these problems to make it up the chain of command.  

You really couldn't... no. Obama did not separate children from parents, so Obama didn't need a strategy for reuniting the families because he never broke them up in the first place.  Needing to reunite children with parents after establishing parentage is an integral part of the process you're pretending is happening (separate kids from parents to ensure the parent isn't a secret sex slaver). If Trump could not forsee that, he is a terrible leader and a very stupid person.

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Verifying the relationship between the minors and the adult accompanying the minor is pretty important because of the potential dangers the adults that aren't the parents pose to the child.

That's fine, but why wasn't there/isn't there a consistent policy for actually doing that? Why ship the kids to different states during the verification? Why deport the potential parent while keeping the kid? Why separate them at all before verifying fitness?

Here's the thing: The purpose of this policy is to hurt these people so much it makes them not want to try again. This is not a conspiracy on my part, this is literally what the Trump administration says about their own policy.

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You might think genocide is going to come to the USA but I don't see anything like that happening based on 46/103 small kids being separated from monsters that had them in their clutches.  Are you willing to sacrifice those 46 kids so that the 57 other kids don't have to be separated?  I am not.

How many of those 46 were "monsters" again? Look at your own statistical breakdown. Over 3000 kids have been separated from their parents. You've shown maybe 0.02% of them being brought over by "monsters".

Your attempts to spin this cruel policy into some kind of noble adventure is pathetic. Not even the Trump administration is trying to spin its own message this hard.

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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

How many of those 46 were "monsters" again? Look at your own statistical breakdown. Over 3000 kids have been separated from their parents. You've shown maybe 0.02% of them being brought over by "monsters".

Your attempts to spin this cruel policy into some kind of noble adventure is pathetic. Not even the Trump administration is trying to spin its own message this hard. 

The numbers we have right now are only for the ages 5 and under so we only have the 46/103 to go on.When they provide statistics on the other 2900 kids (over 5 years) we can continue that discussion.

For the sake of argument though, you would agree that Murders, rapists and child abusers shouldn't be near those kids.  Correct?  So are you willing to sacrifice the lives of those 46 kids?

 

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The only way to stop genocide before it happens is to increase awareness of how it happens.

Maybe you should sit this one out since to were literally cheering for the genocide in Iraq.  You don't seem to do a very good job of predicting it.

 

 

 

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