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1 minute ago, Atticus said:


The roster cost is part of our advantage. This is the era we play in.

It can get a hell of a lot worse. 

How do you think we pay for that roster advantage? I'm not saying he should or shouldn't be fired in that scenario, I'm saying I don't think the money would continue to back him, which means he would be gone. Are you under the impression that someone besides them would be making the call? 

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1 minute ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

If we fire a coach who follows up two straight top 4 finishes with 9-3 and 9-3, we deserve the 7-10 years in the desert that follow. 

Damn, what did the aggies do in their past life?

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11 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

You're talking about millions of donor dollars being completely wasted on the Arch era if we miss the playoffs again. The conversation will be do we want to commit millions more to this guy or do we want to start this next cycle with a new name of our choosing? I don't see whats silly about that considering we are sitting at home this year watching a bunch of teams we would most likely beat. I'd bet we are top 3 preseason again next year. Sark would likely be toast in that scenario and I don't see what is silly about that.

The big money guys  that could force a move, are a lot more realistic than the morons on the football board.  It'll take a lot of 9-3 seasons before they start putting pressure on Sark.  They want good football and a respectable program.  I could see the team being Sarks best team next year and 9-3 isn't a bad season.  You've got OSU, OU, at Tennessee, at LSU, at TAMU...Who knows what Ole miss will be next year.

 

As long as the wheels don't come off somewhere or Sark doesn't get hit with a scandal he could go 7-5 next year and he won't be fired.  His seat will be awfully hot, but he won't get canned.

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28 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

A key question to ask ourselves is, would we trade coaching staffs with A&M or OU? Absolutely not. Actually I think that list is pretty short

Indiana, Georgia (though with boom here now maybe just Kirby), tOSU, that’s probably it. Maybe Lanning but that assumes he’d be SECx3 here instead of Pac10 whatever. Who else? No one. 

as long as Sark stays dialed in he’s here as long as he wants to be. 

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49 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

Indiana, Georgia (though with boom here now maybe just Kirby), tOSU, that’s probably it. Maybe Lanning but that assumes he’d be SECx3 here instead of Pac10 whatever. Who else? No one. 

as long as Sark stays dialed in he’s here as long as he wants to be. 

Some of the overreactions also take for granted the floor that Sark has established. I’m much more interested in him working on areas of weakness than wholesale change. I hope he diagnoses well. 

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1 hour ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

If we fire a coach who follows up two straight top 4 finishes with 9-3 and 9-3, we deserve the 7-10 years in the desert that follow. 

9-3 in a 9 game SEC conference schedule is not the same as 9-3 in B12 or the previous SEC.  
what we are going to witness next year is unprecedented in college football. Spread 8 more SEC losses around this year and things would have looked a lot different.  This is why there will be expansion to 16, no byes, first 2 rounds at home schools. 9-3 will be the new 10-2 imo. 

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Just a question and I’m not saying fire him one way or another but if we go 9-3/10-2 repeatedly and get bounced first round year after year after year when do you decide that isn’t good enough? Because after all we Sark has set the floor according to some of your arguments 

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2 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

9-3 in a 9 game SEC conference schedule is not the same as 9-3 in B12 or the previous SEC.  
what we are going to witness next year is unprecedented in college football. Spread 8 more SEC losses around this year and things would have looked a lot different.  This is why there will be expansion to 16, no byes, first 2 rounds at home schools

I don’t think first two rounds will be at home. I think first will then it will go to all the BCS/CFP bowls 

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1 hour ago, jdhorn92 said:

9-3 in a 9 game SEC conference schedule is not the same as 9-3 in B12 or the previous SEC.  
what we are going to witness next year is unprecedented in college football. Spread 8 more SEC losses around this year and things would have looked a lot different.  This is why there will be expansion to 16, no byes, first 2 rounds at home schools. 9-3 will be the new 10-2 imo. 

I do think there is a major recalibration of expectations that will happen/needs to happen in the modern era of college football. Even this season, most of our fans yell and scream about how we obviously deserved to be in the playoffs over so many teams because of our schedule, and yet in the next breath say Sark is on the hot seat for not making the playoffs.

Competitive for the playoffs should be the expectation every year. We met that expectation this year. Other teams are spending real money on players, too, including teams we beat this year. 

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3 hours ago, BlackCat said:

You're talking about millions of donor dollars being completely wasted on the Arch era if we miss the playoffs again. The conversation will be do we want to commit millions more to this guy or do we want to start this next cycle with a new name of our choosing? I don't see whats silly about that considering we are sitting at home this year watching a bunch of teams we would most likely beat. I'd bet we are top 3 preseason again next year. Sark would likely be toast in that scenario and I don't see what is silly about that.

The last time Texas contended for a NC 3 straight seasons was 1968-1970. Doing that is fucking hard. Sark is allowed to have a season like he just had and yes it would have to be a couple in a row before his seat is hot. 

I mean you just said it yourself -"watching a bunch of teams Texas would likely beat". That kind of implies that Texas is doing a lot of stuff right still despite having an off season. 

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Just a question and I’m not saying fire him one way or another but if we go 9-3/10-2 repeatedly and get bounced first round year after year after year when do you decide that isn’t good enough? Because after all we Sark has set the floor according to some of your arguments 

Bounced?  I'm fairly confident we would have beat any of the 1st round teams this year....but yeah compared to what 85% or so of what longhorn football has looked like in my 45 years on this planet....this year as the "bad year" doesn't sound too shabby.

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7 hours ago, scramblyn said:

There’s like 4 people who think he’s on the hot seat. Many ignore the clear change in behavior last year and this spring and what’s going on now too. I have no doubt he got a talking to. He appears to have responded.  His bullshit lost any “feel goods” with me. Win or GTFO. 

I don't believe he's on the hot seat like some have suggested, especially considering we were just in the CFP the late two years, and we can still win double digit games this year. That's a down year I'll take that all day over the shit we got served for 13 years.

I'm sure CDC had a talking to him about why hiring friends doesn't workout. I don't know how it went, but my imagination says CDC said "get your shit together or else it won't be looking good for you within the next 2 seasons. Fix the issues or find another job. This is University of Texas, not Iowa. You are held to a higher standard at a blue blood. Fix it or put in your resignation if you want to text the NFL waters . If not, you have a lot of stuff to fix, and I'm glad you got a good RB coach, and an elite DC. Now let's work on finding an OL coach, safeties (even though Muschamp coaches them), and a WR coach who can develop."

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Just a question and I’m not saying fire him one way or another but if we go 9-3/10-2 repeatedly and get bounced first round year after year after year when do you decide that isn’t good enough? Because after all we Sark has set the floor according to some of your arguments 

If I had to take a guess, if he did that 3 years in a row I bet CDC would fire him. Taking into account that he got us there, but we're Texas, we should expect to be there and win it, and if we keep getting bounced CDC will have an aneurysm and promptly terminate him.

He did the same with Amge Kelly, who the year before won the conference, but this year she had no more grace left. She has underachieved constantly. You can only do so much before it's time to change the guard. 

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54 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

Bounced?  I'm fairly confident we would have beat any of the 1st round teams this year....but yeah compared to what 85% or so of what longhorn football has looked like in my 45 years on this planet....this year as the "bad year" doesn't sound too shabby.

Reread the post and get back to us with your answer. 

Posted
5 hours ago, BlackCat said:

You're talking about millions of donor dollars being completely wasted on the Arch era if we miss the playoffs again. The conversation will be do we want to commit millions more to this guy or do we want to start this next cycle with a new name of our choosing? I don't see whats silly about that considering we are sitting at home this year watching a bunch of teams we would most likely beat. I'd bet we are top 3 preseason again next year. Sark would likely be toast in that scenario and I don't see what is silly about that.

Donors better get ready to spend every year. Don’t waste arch or dia or Lacey or future qb years. Price is gonna go up every year. Not just for arch 

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5 hours ago, BlackCat said:

You're talking about millions of donor dollars being completely wasted on the Arch era if we miss the playoffs again. The conversation will be do we want to commit millions more to this guy or do we want to start this next cycle with a new name of our choosing? I don't see whats silly about that considering we are sitting at home this year watching a bunch of teams we would most likely beat. I'd bet we are top 3 preseason again next year. Sark would likely be toast in that scenario and I don't see what is silly about that.

Millions of dollars are going to be spent on the roster regardless to who QB1 is. I think some of you set your own selves up to be disappointed thinking it was a given we’d win a championship with Arch, who to date, hasn’t really played like a championship caliber QB. It’s possible the next guy is better, our chances don’t die once Arch moves on. 

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4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Just a question and I’m not saying fire him one way or another but if we go 9-3/10-2 repeatedly and get bounced first round year after year after year when do you decide that isn’t good enough? Because after all we Sark has set the floor according to some of your arguments 

December 21st, 2028

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

And that's why we're watching the playoffs on TV instead of the sidelines.

We’re watching because our HC refused to use the bye week to make the necessary change at OL before Florida. And he also had us so unprepared vs Florida. 

Posted
2 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

I'm sure CDC had a talking to him about why hiring friends doesn't workout. I don't know how it went, but my imagination says CDC said "get your shit together or else it won't be looking good for you within the next 2 seasons. Fix the issues or find another job. This is University of Texas, not Iowa. You are held to a higher standard at a blue blood. Fix it or put in your resignation if you want to text the NFL waters . If not, you have a lot of stuff to fix, and I'm glad you got a good RB coach, and an elite DC. Now let's work on finding an OL coach, safeties (even though Muschamp coaches them), and a WR coach who can develop."

Yeah I'm not sure that's the vibe between CDC and Sark considering Sark makes more money and is a more valuable commodity. 

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