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1 hour ago, markstanco said:

Anybody have one? Need one for our oldest dog, he’s a runner. I want to get him trained before mem day so he can hang out in the yard at the lake and not be tied to a line.

Tractive.

They make em for dogs and cats.

We got one for our cat. He likes to be out, but there are cat-eating coyotes after dark here. We had a couple scares, so we hooked him up.

Pretty good so far. Check it out.

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11 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Tractive.

They make em for dogs and cats.

We got one for our cat. He likes to be out, but there are cat-eating coyotes after dark here. We had a couple scares, so we hooked him up.

Pretty good so far. Check it out.

Is that a pure GPS tracker?  It looks like it.  What I would like is the geofence type where you draw a boundary off say Google Earth and locks them in that containment zone.  

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1 hour ago, markstanco said:

Is that a pure GPS tracker?  It looks like it.  What I would like is the geofence type where you draw a boundary off say Google Earth and locks them in that containment zone.  

Tractive does do geofencing, but it's an alarm on your phone, not something that zaps them or anything.

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I don't have any knowledge of GPS programmable perimeters. I think you're kidding with what the post above infers but for others, if not you, I want to encourage  to have reasonable, and humane, expectations about training, effectiveness, and how it's supposed to work.  

There are two categories of eCollar- I use both.  They are both good training aids but have slightly different purposes. However, the goal in both is to not have to zap.

1) Active monitoring (you have the remote and utilize the collar to reinforce verbal commands).  This is like an invisible leash. It took about two weeks until the vibrate-only feature and command were enough, and another month until the command itself was reliable.

2) Passive Monitoring (you set a perimeter that the dog learns- though training not pain- not to cross).  This is your invisible fence, and what you appear to be asking about.  It took two weeks of consistent daily training for each of my dogs on our electric fence (buried line).  Assuming you have the ability to physically flag the boundaries at the lake and work daily on it up to Memorial, I don't think the GPS version would be any different.

Please don't just set a parameter and leave it to the ZAP to tell them they've gone too far.  It will only terrorize and confuse your dog.

 

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I don't know where the line is drawn between greyhounds and dogs of normal, mortal speed, but you're never supposed to use any kind of GPS/boundary-crossing shocking collar on a greyhound because they will be so far over the line by the time it starts shocking that it's functionally useless and just amounts to physical and psychological torture. 

I would discourage the use of a shocking boundary collar anyway, but especially if your dog is on the fast end of the spectrum. 

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shit my German Shepherd honored it maybe 98% of the time until the pussy was so strong you could watch him walk up to the edge, hear the beep, work up his nerve to accept the pain, and then cross it real quick....an hour later he'd be sitting just outside the wire with his ears down, waiting

but for the most part the invisible fence works surprisingly well

the e-collar on my half lab / half golden works so well I've never even used the electricity, just the vibrate or beep and he is "sir, yes sir" as soon as the collar goes on

 

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2 hours ago, TexasHooch said:

I don't have any knowledge of GPS programmable perimeters. I think you're kidding with what the post above infers but for others, if not you, I want to encourage  to have reasonable, and humane, expectations about training, effectiveness, and how it's supposed to work.  

There are two categories of eCollar- I use both.  They are both good training aids but have slightly different purposes. However, the goal in both is to not have to zap.

1) Active monitoring (you have the remote and utilize the collar to reinforce verbal commands).  This is like an invisible leash. It took about two weeks until the vibrate-only feature and command were enough, and another month until the command itself was reliable.

2) Passive Monitoring (you set a perimeter that the dog learns- though training not pain- not to cross).  This is your invisible fence, and what you appear to be asking about.  It took two weeks of consistent daily training for each of my dogs on our electric fence (buried line).  Assuming you have the ability to physically flag the boundaries at the lake and work daily on it up to Memorial, I don't think the GPS version would be any different.

Please don't just set a parameter and leave it to the ZAP to tell them they've gone too far.  It will only terrorize and confuse your dog.

 

Well aware, I trained labs for UKC and AKC from about 1998 until 2005.  #Tritronics

Posted
20 hours ago, markstanco said:

Anybody have one? Need one for our oldest dog, he’s a runner. I want to get him trained before mem day so he can hang out in the yard at the lake and not be tied to a line.

I recently spent several hours researching these things for my cows. Damn things are $350 each. 

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50 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

I recently spent several hours researching these things for my cows. Damn things are $350 each. 

The dog/cat versions I've got are $50, plus a monthly sub to pay for the wireless. There are pay once models, but those start at $150.

Don't you have to worry only about a couple of cows to cover the herd, tho?

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And yeah, I wouldn't use a shock collar as an e-fence. I just want to know where my guy is so we can go get him before the coyotes come out to hunt.

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1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

The dog/cat versions I've got are $50, plus a monthly sub to pay for the wireless. There are pay once models, but those start at $150.

Don't you have to worry only about a couple of cows to cover the herd, tho?

No, every cow has to have one. Like someone upthread mentioned, I wanted to draw fences and divide a very large pasture into smaller ones for rotational grazing. If I remember correctly the model I liked was $300/collar plus a $50 subscription fee per year per collar. 

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3 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

No, every cow has to have one. Like someone upthread mentioned, I wanted to draw fences and divide a very large pasture into smaller ones for rotational grazing. If I remember correctly the model I liked was $300/collar plus a $50 subscription fee per year per collar. 

oof

fuck that

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