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Learn to Fly is so great that it inspired this:

 

 

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Listening to Sam's Town again and... man. It reminds me why I started this thread. 

I mean this album completely blows away anything The Foo Fighters ever put out. 

Here's maybe like the 7th best song off of Sam's Town.

 

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This has more lyrical substance to it than anything that Dave Grohl ever wrote.

 

What is awesome about music is that each song can impact each person in a unique and personal way. Nostalgia, chord progression, vocals, lyrical relation, virtuosity, mix, production, etc. As such, "this band is better than that band" kinds of comparisons are very personal. There are some songs by each of these bands that resonate with me. Some because of the stories they tell; some because of the vocals; some because they allow me to just let go...

Violent Femmes wrote several great songs htat resonated with millions of people and they sucked as players. I will never mistake chops for creativity.

I couldn't care less if someone thinks The Killers are a far better band than Foo Fighters. I don't get that perspective one bit, but hey, I hate Jethro Tull and The Doors even more. It's just music. Listen to what you like. There is no Super Bowl.

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2 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

What is awesome about music is that each song can impact each person in a unique and personal way. Nostalgia, chord progression, vocals, lyrical relation, virtuosity, mix, production, etc. As such, "this band is better than that band" kinds of comparisons are very personal. There are some songs by each of these bands that resonate with me. Some because of the stories they tell; some because of the vocals; some because they allow me to just let go...

Great comment.

24 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Violent Femmes wrote several great songs htat resonated with millions of people and they sucked as players. I will never mistake chops for creativity.

I couldn't care less if someone thinks The Killers are a far better band than Foo Fighters. I don't get that perspective one bit, but hey, I hate Jethro Tull and The Doors even more. It's just music. Listen to what you like. There is no Super Bowl.

My last bump was mainly just to fuck with y'all. Rep for hating the Doors.

There are moments of Killers songs that I absolutely love (the back half of "All These Things I've Done" is perfect), and I feel like I should love Sam's Town - but I just have never gotten it to take root.

But Colour & The Shape is a nearly perfect rock album. It's better than a lot of other bands I like's best work. And there have been plenty of shitty Foo Fighter songs since (and plenty fucking great ones too), but that album is an incredible mix of all of it's influences. There's punk. There's 70's arena rock. There's wistful singer/songwriter folk. There's grunge. Sometimes it's all in the same song.

It's a staggering record. My hottest musical take is that it's the best record Dave Grohl ever participated in making. Certainly not the most important. Certainly not the most popular. Certainly not the most influential. It doesn't get it's due credit, in large part because Grohl never really pushed the envelope stylistically, and because he never topped it. It's just so god damn good.

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

But Colour & The Shape is a nearly perfect rock album. It's better than a lot of other bands I like's best work. And there have been plenty of shitty Foo Fighter songs since (and plenty fucking great ones too), but that album is an incredible mix of all of it's influences. There's punk. There's 70's arena rock. There's wistful singer/songwriter folk. There's grunge. Sometimes it's all in the same song.

It's a staggering record. My hottest musical take is that it's the best record Dave Grohl ever participated in making. Certainly not the most important. Certainly not the most popular. Certainly not the most influential. It doesn't get it's due credit, in large part because Grohl never really pushed the envelope stylistically, and because he never topped it. It's just so god damn good.

It's astonishing. Just the heavyweight 1-2 punch of "Monkey Wrench" and "Everlong" puts it in, oh, maybe top 100 rock albums of all time? Then you have "My Hero".

Is it "Nevermind"? Nope, and you alluded to that. In MY world, The Killers have never made a record close to that, but that's why we all get to buy what we buy and think what we think.

On 10/9/2025 at 7:09 AM, ztejas said:

This is better than anything that the Foo Fighters ever did. 

The cinematography in this video is amazing.

4 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's astonishing. Just the heavyweight 1-2 punch of "Monkey Wrench" and "Everlong" puts it in, oh, maybe top 100 rock albums of all time? Then you have "My Hero".

Is it "Nevermind"? Nope, and you alluded to that. In MY world, The Killers have never made a record close to that, but that's why we all get to buy what we buy and think what we think.

I absolutely love the Doll>Monkey Wrench sequence to start. The end run starting at February Stars is stunning. New Way Home is an absolutely elite album closer.

Even the throwaway stuff like See You is great.

It's funny as the only one of those songs I like is Monkey Wrench.

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6 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

There are moments of Killers songs that I absolutely love (the back half of "All These Things I've Done" is perfect), and I feel like I should love Sam's Town - but I just have never gotten it to take root.

But Colour & The Shape is a nearly perfect rock album. It's better than a lot of other bands I like's best work. And there have been plenty of shitty Foo Fighter songs since (and plenty fucking great ones too), but that album is an incredible mix of all of it's influences. There's punk. There's 70's arena rock. There's wistful singer/songwriter folk. There's grunge. Sometimes it's all in the same song.

It's a staggering record. My hottest musical take is that it's the best record Dave Grohl ever participated in making. Certainly not the most important. Certainly not the most popular. Certainly not the most influential. It doesn't get it's due credit, in large part because Grohl never really pushed the envelope stylistically, and because he never topped it. It's just so god damn good.

Definitely my favorite Foo record.

59 minutes ago, G650 said:

It's funny as the only one of those songs I like is Monkey Wrench.

I'm not going to suggest you shold like the others, but "Monkey Wrench" is a bitch of a song to write. Those little hooks seemingly came out of nowhere. Show me another song prior to that which had those litle riffs and then the melodic hook. It's just an amazing, super original rock tune. HOF worthy on its own.

On 12/27/2025 at 1:07 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Violent Femmes wrote several great songs htat resonated with millions of people and they sucked as players. I will never mistake chops for creativity.

I couldn't care less if someone thinks The Killers are a far better band than Foo Fighters. I don't get that perspective one bit, but hey, I hate Jethro Tull and The Doors even more. It's just music. Listen to what you like. There is no Super Bowl.

On 12/27/2025 at 1:33 PM, ztejas said:

Great comment.

My last bump was mainly just to fuck with y'all. Rep for hating the Doors.

ok assholes, let's get something straight. NOBODY hates the doors more than I do. Either concede that point, or meet me for fisticuffs in the texags office parking lot.

5 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

ok assholes, let's get something straight. NOBODY hates the doors more than I do. Either concede that point, or meet me for fisticuffs in the texags office parking lot.

Best I can do is agree to hate them equally

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The only Foo songs I like are Everlong & My Hero. There’s like 15 killers songs I enjoy immensely, although I don’t much care for their new sound.

There are probably 20 Foo songs I like better than My Hero.

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On 12/30/2025 at 8:46 AM, Helobious said:

The only Foo songs I like are Everlong & My Hero. There’s like 15 killers songs I enjoy immensely, although I don’t much care for their new sound.

I love the rare Helo W.

I think I'm squarely in the target range of this debate....I had the absolute best summer fling and our song was Mr Brightside. I also just caught The Killers in Chicago for Lolla and they killed it. Brought some kid up to play drums, it was so much fun....

Having said that, Dave Grohl is also a Chicago (best city in the US) legend and the Foo Fighters are amazing, Everlong got me through some times.....

I'm not gonna analyze the thread, but I'm pretty sure OP praised the Killers for being original and in the same breath said he doesn't like Nirvana.

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Team Foo in this debate, as much as it hurts

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3 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

but I'm pretty sure OP praised the Killers for being original and in the same breath said he doesn't like Nirvana.

I would never say I don't like Nirvana. I'm sure whatever I said had more context behind it. I think they're overrated - that doesn't mean I don't like them or think they aren't good.

On 12/30/2025 at 9:14 AM, Al_4_ISU said:

There are probably 20 Foo songs I like better than My Hero.

Yeah My Hero is pretty weak.

6 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I would never say I don't like Nirvana. I'm sure whatever I said had more context behind it. I think they're overrated - that doesn't mean I don't like them or think they aren't good.

Yeah My Hero is pretty weak.

God dammit, as much as I love Nirvana, I also think they are overrated. #TeamPearJam

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3 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

God dammit, as much as I love Nirvana, I also think they are overrated. #TeamPearJam

That's a tough one for me.

AIC clears both easy though.

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Have to throw Cornell in there too. That one Audioslave album is nuts.

Exhibit A:

One of the better guitar solos of all time.

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I'm going to stretch this out and really piss off the Foo lovers.

Is this not a better track than any Foo track ever?

I feel like this is way more ambitious and original.

I think there were so many better late 90s and 2000s bands.

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