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23 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

We haven’t played like a playoff team though. I’m not convinced Texas can beat BYU, Utah, ND, Tech, and Georgia Tech and Miami might be really interesting. 

Yall talk about the pessimists focusing on records, well we have 2 fucking terrible losses and 5 terrible fucking wins.  We are two punt returns for TD (one with a clear no call) away from having 5 losses. Add another OT win against a shit team. The committee knows this. Texas is a 3 loss minimum but “this” close to a 6 loss team. That’s the problem. This team’s resume is just not as good as you think it is.

Tell me that you are just looking at W/L and not watching games more. 
 

Anyone who thinks that BYU, Utah or Georgia Tech can beat us haven’t been watching their games at all 

Posted
14 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

In the scenario being discussed we would have beaten OU and Aggy along with Vanderbilt…but you don’t think we’re capable of beating the other teams you listed. OK, I guess….?

Look at the rest of our resume. I didn’t say we couldn’t I said I don’t know. You really think this team is a lock against those teams I mentioned? That’s laughable. This Texas team is talented but plays with its food especially on the road. 

I actually like our chances Friday because Aggies fuck up their good fortune and we are decent at home.
 

But this isn’t a good team. 

Just now, GabrielsHorn said:

Tell me that you are just looking at W/L and not watching games more. 
 

Anyone who thinks that BYU, Utah or Georgia Tech can beat us haven’t been watching their games at all 

I watch the games and Texas is as mid as they come. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

We haven’t played like a playoff team though. I’m not convinced can beat BYU, Utah, ND, Tech, and Georgia Tech and Miami might be really interesting. 

Yall talk about the pessimists forcing on records, well we have 2 fucking terrible losses and 5 terrible fucking wins. This team’s resume is just not as good as you think it is.

This has nothing to do with Texas. I don't think the Horns look anything close to a playoff team this year. 

However, I don't think BYU, Utah, Notre Dame, Indiana, etc would have a better record with our schedule either. Do you? 

Hell, Arizona St lost in Starkville with Leavitt and Tyson. For sure Bear Bachmeier goes better than 3-1 playing this schedule and away from home for a month, right? 

@ Florida 

Oklahoma - neutral field

@ Kentucky

@ Mississippi St

 

I think they're 2-2 at best. 

Posted
Just now, RoyalBevo21 said:

This has nothing to do with Texas. I don't think the Horns look anything close to a playoff team this year. 

However, I don't think BYU, Utah, Notre Dame, Indiana, etc would have a better record with our schedule either. Do you? 

Hell, Arizona St lost in Starkville with Leavitt and Tyson. For sure Bear Bachmeier goes better than 3-1 playing this schedule and away from home for a month, right? 

@ Florida 

Oklahoma - neutral field

@ Kentucky

@ Mississippi St

 

I think they're 2-2 at best. 

That hypothetical isn’t really relevant. But no I think they wouldn’t have a better record than Texas because I think Utah, BYU, Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Miami, ND, and Texas are all mediocre top 15 type teams. 

That’s exactly the problem. 

Posted
1 minute ago, scramblyn said:

That hypothetical isn’t really relevant. But no I think they wouldn’t have a better record than Texas because I think Utah, BYU, Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Miami, ND, and Texas are all mediocre top 15 type teams. 

That’s exactly the problem. 

Exactly what I'm saying. And on the flip side. What is Texas' record with BYU's schedule?Screenshot_20251123_124920_Chrome.thumb.jpg.3da2294464dbd536207653419c2db78e.jpg

Posted
1 hour ago, scramblyn said:

Regardless of the Ohio state loss this team is mid, a 12-17 level team.

There seems to be this assumption that every team in the playoff must be a quality team.

We watched the lower seeded teams get the crap kicked out of them last year. In a 12 team playoff, you are still going to have only 4-5 teams who actually have a realistic shot at winning the title. Will be same if they expand to 16.

No #11 or #12 seed “deserves” to be in the playoff. They are ranked in that range for a reason.

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3 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Exactly what I'm saying. And on the flip side. What is Texas' record with BYU's schedule?Screenshot_20251123_124920_Chrome.thumb.jpg.3da2294464dbd536207653419c2db78e.jpg

At least two losses - at tech and probably at Utah and that’s without considering the rest of them. Look this team isn’t good. It’s an okay team. Okay teams lose. 

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8 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

There seems to be this assumption that every team in the playoff must be a quality team.

We watched the lower seeded teams get the crap kicked out of them last year. In a 12 team playoff, you are still going to have only 4-5 teams who actually have a realistic shot at winning the title. Will be same if they expand to 16.

No #11 or #12 seed “deserves” to be in the playoff. They are ranked in that range for a reason.

No assumption of that at all, i’m saying there is a traffic jam of just okay teams and Texas is in the middle of that based on the whole resume. 

Win or lose Friday, we are the sixth best SEC team. That’s not a play off resume even if we’d finish in the top 3 of the Big 12.

 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

Look at the rest of our resume. I didn’t say we couldn’t I said I don’t know. You really think this team is a lock against those teams I mentioned? That’s laughable. 

You literally said you aren’t convinced we “can” beat those teams.  I referred to being “capable” of doing so.  
 

Maybe slow down and digest some of this instead of Kermit The Frogging the keyboard 

 

24 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

 

 

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

You literally said you aren’t convinced we “can” beat those teams.  I referred to being “capable” of doing so.  
 

Maybe slow down and digest some of this instead of Kermit The Frogging the keyboard 

 

 

If you think being capable of beating Utah is a ringing endorsement don’t know what to tell you. My answer was I don’t know. 

y’all are convinced but for the mere focus on the loss column this team belongs in the playoffs.  That’s just biased fan talk. This team even with a win Friday is just an okay team and subject to the committee’s consideration of other okay teams to take up the last at large spot. I just don’t see a 5th or 6th SEC team getting in.  Focusing only on the good wins sure, but there are really bad losses and really bad wins that go with it too. 

but keep telling yourself we should be in, it’s all fine.  We clearly won’t come to a consensus here.

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Posted
19 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

At least two losses - at tech and probably at Utah and that’s without considering the rest of them. Look this team isn’t good. It’s an okay team. Okay teams lose. 

And would a 10-2 Texas with that schedule be in or out? 

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1- Just because we haven’t played well enough to be guaranteed a spot doesn’t mean we shouldn’t go to the playoffs at all.

2- If we beat A&M and miss the playoff, we will definitely be getting punished for the Ohio State loss. A 10-2 Texas with three top ten wins absolutely gets in.

3- Just because we aren’t good enough to win it all doesn’t mean the playoffs don’t matter. It’s still a big deal to play in a marquee game and be able to tell recruits and portal players we make the playoffs even in our down years. 

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Posted
33 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

This has nothing to do with Texas. I don't think the Horns look anything close to a playoff team this year. 

However, I don't think BYU, Utah, Notre Dame, Indiana, etc would have a better record with our schedule either. Do you? 

Hell, Arizona St lost in Starkville with Leavitt and Tyson. For sure Bear Bachmeier goes better than 3-1 playing this schedule and away from home for a month, right? 

@ Florida 

Oklahoma - neutral field

@ Kentucky

@ Mississippi St

 

I think they're 2-2 at best. 

Or 4-0

Posted
1 hour ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Except that is completely false. It’s obviously very relevant. 

No. The loss to Florida is the albatross. It’s pretty simple. 

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

And would a 10-2 Texas with that schedule be in or out? 

that's a nonsense hypothetical. we have our schedule. we are not getting in 9-3. at 10-2 with a win over Rice instead of a lost to tOSU and the exact same schedule we have and the exact same results I'd say we are probably in, but for the love of christ, it would be a beauty contest and here's the good and bad with Texas:

 

1. Terrible loss - Florida

2. A+ win - OU

3. Bad loss - Georgia

4. A+ win - A&M

5. Good win - Vandy

6. Terrible wins - UK (OT) / Miss St (OT)

7. The rest is unimpressive shit.

8. 5th at best in the SEC.

 

This would be a 10-2 team (assuming we beat A&M) that's a hair from 8-4 and the committee sees it. And yeah, with that resume, probably in but not guaranteed.

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, scramblyn said:

that's a nonsense hypothetical. we have our schedule. we are not getting in 9-3. at 10-2 with a win over Rice instead of a lost to tOSU and the exact same schedule we have and the exact same results I'd say we are probably in, but for the love of christ, it would be a beauty contest and here's the good and bad with Texas:

 

1. Terrible loss - Florida

2. A+ win - OU

3. Bad loss - Georgia

4. A+ win - A&M

5. Good win - Vandy

6. Terrible wins - UK (OT) / Miss St (OT)

7. The rest is unimpressive shit.

 

And yeah, with that resume, probably in but not guaranteed.  

 

We would be in.

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Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, BlackCat said:

We would be in.

y'all really can't see how fucking bad the Florida and Georgia losses are combined with some hideous wins that are counting as near losses in the committee war room. I'll concede probably but after 35-10, it would not be guaranteed.

 

 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

y'all really can't see how fucking bad the Florida and Georgia losses are combined with some hideous wins that are counting as near losses in the committee war room. I'll concede probably but after 35-10, it would not be guaranteed.

 

 

Yes we can. You're completely overlooking the ramifications of scheduling and being purposely obtuse. You keep saying "Florida and Georgia losses are terrible" to the committee all losses are "terrible" since a 10-2 Texas that still lost to Florida and Georgia by 31 points is in the playoffs by playing Rice instead of Ohio St. Why are you just blowing past that? 

Posted
20 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

y'all really can't see how fucking bad the Florida and Georgia losses are combined with some hideous wins that are counting as near losses in the committee war room. I'll concede probably but after 35-10, it would not be guaranteed.

 

 

We would be in. We would just be an 11 seed or something. 10-2 Texas with three top 10 wins and Arch playing like this isn’t getting left out. 

Posted
49 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

No assumption of that at all, i’m saying there is a traffic jam of just okay teams and Texas is in the middle of that based on the whole resume. 

Win or lose Friday, we are the sixth best SEC team. That’s not a play off resume even if we’d finish in the top 3 of the Big 12.

 

we will be fifth in SEC.

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Yes we can. You're completely overlooking the ramifications of scheduling and being purposely obtuse. You keep saying "Florida and Georgia losses are terrible" to the committee all losses are "terrible" since a 10-2 Texas that still lost to Florida and Georgia by 31 points is in the playoffs by playing Rice instead of Ohio St. Why are you just blowing past that? 

I'm not, I think Texas is probably in but it's not guaranteed. I've said that now 3 times. But this idea that it's open and shut but for tOSU just isn't true. You look at Texas as a two loss team, it's not clearly in ahead of the other two loss teams except in the minds of many Texas fans. you can argue with me but Florida and Georgia losses are fucking awful. The OU and A&M wins are (would be) great but the rest of the resume is utter dog shit. that dog shit is as much the problem as the losses.

Look, if Texas played within a touchdown of Georgia and even played Florida well and then beat UK and Miss St like we should have then yes, that 10-2 Texas team is the best 2 loss team. But that's not what happened.

and I'll put it out there, I don't think the committee is really focused on the 3 losses or tOSU, I think they are focused on Texas has worse losses and worse wins in combination than it's marquee wins.

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

we will be fifth in SEC.

standings not rankings.

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Posted
1 minute ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Yes we can. You're completely overlooking the ramifications of scheduling and being purposely obtuse. You keep saying "Florida and Georgia losses are terrible" to the committee all losses are "terrible" since a 10-2 Texas that still lost to Florida and Georgia by 31 points is in the playoffs by playing Rice instead of Ohio St. Why are you just blowing past that? 

Do you people honestly think that OU win was that great? You are acting as if OU is 11-1 and ranked in the top 3. The idea that the committee would just fall in love with those wins and vault UT past other 2 loss teams is laughable. They are a playoff team but deeply flawed they can beat anyone if they rule the TO battles though.

The only way a 3 loss Texas is in for sure is having beaten all of the best teams including tOSU. then explain the losses as fluke injuries. (argument to keep tOSU)

Replace tOSU with Rice the only way a 2 loss Texas team is in is if had beaten Georgia or UF (and Aggie)

A hypothetical Texas that lost to GA UF, and beat Rice is NOT guaranteed. We would have had the same embarrassing losses and shit wins. 

The logic is PAINFULLY obvious it is ridiculous, tOSU did not matter, hell the close loss helped UT barely. It was the regular season that doomed UT.

Posted
1 minute ago, linux said:

Do you people honestly think that OU win was that great? You are acting as if OU is 11-1 and ranked in the top 3. The idea that the committee would just fall in love with those wins and vault UT past other 2 loss teams is laughable. They are a playoff team but deeply flawed they can beat anyone if they rule the TO battles though.

The only way a 3 loss Texas is in for sure is having beaten all of the best teams including tOSU. then explain the losses as fluke injuries. (argument to keep tOSU)

Replace tOSU with Rice the only way a 2 loss Texas team is in is if had beaten Georgia or UF (and Aggie)

A hypothetical Texas that lost to GA UF, and beat Rice is NOT guaranteed. We would have had the same embarrassing losses and shit wins. 

The logic is PAINFULLY obvious it is ridiculous, tOSU did not matter, hell the close loss helped UT barely. It was the regular season that doomed UT.

I don’t know what to tell you besides I completely disagree. 10-2 Texas with our exact same results but a win over rice instead of a loss to Ohio state would be in.

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

I'm not, I think Texas is probably in but it's not guaranteed. I've said that now 3 times. But this idea that it's open and shut but for tOSU just isn't true. You look at Texas as a two loss team, it's not clearly in ahead of the other two loss teams except in the minds of many Texas fans. you can argue with me but Florida and Georgia losses are fucking awful. The OU and A&M wins are (would be) great but the rest of the resume is utter dog shit. that dog shit is as much the problem as the losses.

Look, if Texas played within a touchdown of Georgia and even played Florida well and then beat UK and Miss St like we should have then yes, that 10-2 Texas team is the best 2 loss team. But that's not what happened.

and I'll put it out there, I don't think the committee is really focused on the 3 losses or tOSU, I think they are focused on Texas has worse losses and worse wins in combination than it's marquee wins.

standings not rankings.

And Alabama's losses to Florida St and Oklahoma totally kick ass right? Again, you're making this too much about Texas rather than the ramifications of what comes with it. This was Texas Tech's OOC schedule: 

Arkansas-Pine Bluff

Kent St

Oregon St

 

FCS games shouldn't even count towards your win/loss record. So a team like Indiana should be viewed as an 8-0 team instead of an 11-0 team. They're ranked second solely for winning at Oregon six weeks ago. 

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Posted
Just now, BlackCat said:

I don’t know what to tell you besides I completely disagree. 10-2 Texas with our exact same results but a win over rice instead of a loss to Ohio state would be in.

It would be debatable, FSU was undefeated and was left out vs a Bama team that lost an epic OOC game.

You guys don't really factor in how shit Texas has played aside from two games. And one was the loss on week 1.

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Posted
Just now, RoyalBevo21 said:

And Alabama's losses to Florida St and Oklahoma totally kick ass right? Again, you're making this too much about Texas rather than the ramifications of what comes with it. This was Texas Tech's OOC schedule: 

Arkansas-Pine Bluff

Kent St

Oregon St

 

FCS games shouldn't even count towards your win/loss record. So a team like Indiana should be viewed as an 8-0 team instead of an 11-0 team. Their ranked second solely for winning at Oregon six weeks ago. 

1     Ohio State    (1)
 2     Indiana    (2)
 3     Texas A&M    (3)
 4     Georgia    (4)
 5     Texas Tech    (5)
 6     Ole Miss    (6)
 7     Oregon    (7)
 8     Oklahoma    (8)
 9     Notre Dame    (9)
 10     Alabama    (10) 

 

from another thread, the top 10 of the rankings which are all that matter because the ACC and the top also-ran conf champion rounds out 11 and 12.  Texas might be ahead of Alabama in this alt world we are creating but that's a big might because their drop was the same week we got shellacked by Georgia. Texas is behind the rest, including OU because the same day we got butt fucked by Kirby, OU went on the road and beat Bama.



 

Posted
1 hour ago, scramblyn said:

At least two losses - at tech and probably at Utah and that’s without considering the rest of them. Look this team isn’t good. It’s an okay team. Okay teams lose. 

The same Utah that just gave up 50 to Kansas State at home and took a miracle implosion to win? 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Is Alabama going to get in at 10-2 with a loss just as bad as Texas’?

If the answer is yes, then don’t blame the Florida loss for Texas not getting in at 9-3.

They actually played well during the season, losing to OU with multiple turnovers is >>>> than getting destroyed by Georgia.

It is not just UF it was BOTH, Texas was in despite the UF stinker, then layed another egg.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

I'm not, I think Texas is probably in but it's not guaranteed. I've said that now 3 times. But this idea that it's open and shut but for tOSU just isn't true. You look at Texas as a two loss team, it's not clearly in ahead of the other two loss teams except in the minds of many Texas fans. you can argue with me but Florida and Georgia losses are fucking awful. The OU and A&M wins are (would be) great but the rest of the resume is utter dog shit. that dog shit is as much the problem as the losses.

Look, if Texas played within a touchdown of Georgia and even played Florida well and then beat UK and Miss St like we should have then yes, that 10-2 Texas team is the best 2 loss team. But that's not what happened.

and I'll put it out there, I don't think the committee is really focused on the 3 losses or tOSU, I think they are focused on Texas has worse losses and worse wins in combination than it's marquee wins.

standings not rankings.

it is funny you think the committee is not focused on the 3 losses.  last week every SEC and Big Ten team was ranked in order of losses except for Texas and Michigan.  why?  2 reasons a) because they assume Mich is gonna lose to tOSU but are not so sure about us and aggy and b) it makes it look like they are not just ranking by losses.  they can sprinkle in a couple of Big 12 where necessary to make it look good.

I agree all this does not matter if we don't beat aggy by more than one score.

say ND beats aggy and we beat them do you think aggy is in this year?

Posted
2 minutes ago, linux said:

They actually played well during the season, losing to OU with multiple turnovers is >>>> than getting destroyed by Georgia.

It is not just UF it was BOTH, Texas was in despite the UF stinker, then layed another egg.

You are giving the committee too much credit in how deep they actually analyze this stuff. 

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Just now, dcar00 said:

it is funny you think the committee is not focused on the 3 losses.  last week every SEC and Big Ten team was ranked in order of losses except for Texas and Michigan.  why?  2 reasons a) because they assume Mich is gonna lose to tOSU but are not so sure about us and aggy and b) it makes it look like they are not just ranking by losses.  they can sprinkle in a couple of Big 12 where necessary to make it look good.

I agree all this does not matter if we don't beat aggy by more than one score.

say ND beats aggy and we beat them do you think aggy is in this year?

I just showed you two loss Texas team still has no room in the top 10.  it's the entire resume without the tOSU loss that sucks man. it just fucking does.

Posted
Just now, Hookem2147 said:

You are giving the committee too much credit in how deep they actually analyze this stuff. 

I mean they are paid to do this, it is a prestige job, I can't guarantee anything, but I can at least guarantee that they give this the most thought over anything that was before, I might not agree with it but AP and coaches polls were afterthoughts by lazy journalists and coaching assistants.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, linux said:

They actually played well during the season, losing to OU with multiple turnovers is >>>> than getting destroyed by Georgia.

It is not just UF it was BOTH, Texas was in despite the UF stinker, then layed another egg.

yes turnovers are part of being a shitty team and that was at home as well.

Posted
7 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

FCS games shouldn't even count towards your win/loss record. So a team like Indiana should be viewed as an 8-0 team instead of an 11-0 team. They're ranked second solely for winning at Oregon six weeks ago. 

People that don't understand this don't understand statistical probability.   We'll see at the final selection but so far I think it's clear that the whole "we are using strength of record" as a metric has been BS.   That's the entire reason the SEC went to 9 games.  I think it's starting to be clear we absolute should not be scheduling elite teams OOC.  Inserting a game you have a 40-60% chance of winning in any given year compared to a game you have a 95% chance of winning when the committee still inexplicably "counts losses" just doesn't make sense.   

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Posted
1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

yes turnovers are part of being a shitty team and that was at home as well.

23-21 OU over Bama and 35-10 Georgia over Texas.

same week. 

both OU and Bama are ahead of us in a 2 loss scenario because of those two scores right there. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

I just showed you two loss Texas team still has no room in the top 10.  it's the entire resume without the tOSU loss that sucks man. it just fucking does.

a 10-2 Texas is in top 10 with wins over OU vandy and aggy.

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Posted
1 minute ago, scramblyn said:

23-21 OU over Bama and 35-10 Georgia over Texas.

same week. 

both OU and Bama are ahead of us in a 2 loss scenario because of those two scores right there. 

we are ahead of OU, maybe not Bama.

Posted
Just now, dcar00 said:

we are ahead of OU, maybe not Bama.

OU is a commitee and media darling, no way we stay above them after 35-10 and 23-21. no fucking way, we've seen it WAY too many times.

fuck it, my tee time is in an hour and a half. y'all fix what's wrong with the CFP please. thank you.

Posted
5 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

1     Ohio State    (1)
 2     Indiana    (2)
 3     Texas A&M    (3)
 4     Georgia    (4)
 5     Texas Tech    (5)
 6     Ole Miss    (6)
 7     Oregon    (7)
 8     Oklahoma    (8)
 9     Notre Dame    (9)
 10     Alabama    (10) 

 

from another thread, the top 10 of the rankings which are all that matter because the ACC and the top also-ran conf champion rounds out 11 and 12.  Texas might be ahead of Alabama in this alt world we are creating but that's a big might because their drop was the same week we got shellacked by Georgia. Texas is behind the rest, including OU because the same day we got butt fucked by Kirby, OU went on the road and beat Bama.



 

Let's play this out. 

Texas 10-2

 - Best wins: #3 Texas A&M, #8 Oklahoma, #12 Vanderbilt (assuming they're 12 if they win out) 

- Losses: 3-9 Florida, #4 Georgia

Oklahoma 10-2 

- Best Wins: #10 Alabama, #15 Michigan, #18 Tennessee (in this scenario Michigan and Tennessee might be unranked as they would both have another loss) 

Losses: #6 Ole Miss, #9 Texas (assuming 9th with only two losses) 

Alabama 10-2 

Best wins: #4 Georgia, #12 Vanderbilt, #18 Tennessee

Losses: 5-6 FSU, #8 Oklahoma

 

Vanderbilt 10-2

Best wins: 7-4 Missouri

Losses: #10 Alabama, #9 Texas

 

In this scenario Texas has the best win and the worst loss. But owns H2H over Oklahoma. I think Alabama is the odd man out in this scenario. 

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Let's play this out. 

Texas 10-2

 - Best wins: #3 Texas A&M, #8 Oklahoma, #12 Vanderbilt (assuming they're 12 if they win out) 

- Losses: 3-9 Florida, #4 Georgia

Oklahoma 10-2 

- Best Wins: #10 Alabama, #15 Michigan, #18 Tennessee (in this scenario Michigan and Tennessee might be unranked as they would both have another loss) 

Losses: #6 Ole Miss, #9 Texas (assuming 9th with only two losses) 

Alabama 10-2 

Best wins: #4 Georgia, #12 Vanderbilt, #18 Tennessee

Losses: 5-6 FSU, #8 Oklahoma

 

Vanderbilt 10-2

Best wins: 7-4 Missouri

Losses: #10 Alabama, #9 Texas

 

In this scenario Texas has the best win and the worst loss. But owns H2H over Oklahoma. I think Alabama is the odd man out in this scenario. 

you left out quality of wins, quality of losses, the whole schedule, scores in the big wins and losses, etc.

look at the top 10 again. there's no room for Texas right now even with 2 losses.  

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