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London Met Police To Take on…..Freemasons?

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Since everyone is a mentally ill conspiracy theorist now, I shouldn’t be surprised but somehow I still am. The London Met has decided it needs to ferret out Freemasons in the ranks, apparently in an effort to appease other mentally ill people. It’s been a while since we had a good Masonry panic, maybe Nature is Healing?

So, it seems this stems from the unsolved murder of a PI named Daniel Morgan in 1987.

The ensuing investigations seem to have been a complete clusterfuck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Daniel_Morgan

Starmer was involved in dismissing a large prosecution against suspects.

A big independent report was released in 2021 that has several footnotes referencing rumors of Freemasonry tainting the investigation, none of which seem to have any basis in fact. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/60c89983d3bf7f4bd4662c62/_HC_11-I__-_The_Report_of_the_Daniel_Morgan_Independent_Panel__Volume_1_.pdf

This looks like an almost Trumpian deflection effort by Starmer to "do something."

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23 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, it seems this stems from the unsolved murder of a PI named Daniel Morgan in 1987.

The ensuing investigations seem to have been a complete clusterfuck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Daniel_Morgan

Starmer was involved in dismissing a large prosecution against suspects.

A big independent report was released in 2021 that has several footnotes referencing rumors of Freemasonry tainting the investigation, none of which seem to have any basis in fact. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/60c89983d3bf7f4bd4662c62/_HC_11-I__-_The_Report_of_the_Daniel_Morgan_Independent_Panel__Volume_1_.pdf

This looks like an almost Trumpian deflection effort by Starmer to "do something."

Starmer is in the middle of a PR crisis because he bragged about bringing “home” an Egyptian extremist who inherited his citizenship from a prior government víš his mother (who was born there while his grandma is a student) without ever setting foot in the UK. He was jailed in Egypt and became a minor cause. No sooner had he landed than a series of tweets emerged from his 30s where he called gay people “dirty homosexuals,” expressed a desire to work with bin Laden to kill Americans, and to engage in mass exterminations of white people. (Of course also the requisite calls to kill Zionists anywhere; which made the aforementioned OK). Several MPs who were on board have turned against him.

If it is deflection, resurrecting a 40 year old Masonic conspiracy is the most brain dead way to go about it). So it will likely work.

6 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

(Of course also the requisite calls to kill Zionists anywhere; which made the aforementioned OK).

It did?

1 minute ago, Foosters said:

It did?

I don't think Brits have the same general level of affection for Israel that Americans do.

First, Israel killed quite a few Brits on the way in; second, they generally lack the species of fundagelicals that believe Israel's existence essential to the second coming.

So, their Nazis continue to be raging anti-Semites, while ours are only partial anti-Semites.

16 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I don't think Brits have the same general level of affection for Israel that Americans do.

First, Israel killed quite a few Brits on the way in; second, they generally lack the species of fundagelicals that believe Israel's existence essential to the second coming.

So, their Nazis continue to be raging anti-Semites, while ours are only partial anti-Semites.

Both Christian Zionism and the end of days Dispensationalism were born in England. Granted, it didn't catch on like wildfire over there like it did here. America seems to be where all the Christian byproducts of the English reformation go to market.

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36 minutes ago, F250 said:

Both Christian Zionism and the end of days Dispensationalism were born in England. Granted, it didn't catch on like wildfire over there like it did here. America seems to be where all the Christian byproducts of the English reformation go to market.

The English have a state church and also a developed tendency to encourage their zealots to decamp for other parts of the Anglosphere. As a result they missed some real theological oddities and sped up secularization.

However, it has long been clear that the secularism and rationalism trains are not only on different tracks, but often heading different directions. As evidenced by Mason conspiracy posting and public policy in the Year of our Lord 2025. This is in strong contention for most embarrassing statement— public institutions category in 2025, even with DJT in office.

39 minutes ago, F250 said:

Both Christian Zionism and the end of days Dispensationalism were born in England. Granted, it didn't catch on like wildfire over there like it did here. America seems to be where all the Christian byproducts of the English reformation go to market.

Yeah, John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren all originated over there. But yes, it really took hold here.

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11 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Yeah, John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren all originated over there. But yes, it really took hold here.

It cant be emphasized enough that these currents were all extremely modern and an attempt to work a framework of rationalism and historicism into a religious foundation. They were wrong, but that’s what it was.

Many humbling similar lessons out there on various dead ends of Progress and Reason for those willing to see.

Edited by 956 Worldwide

Also, who'd have figured 956 was a Mason. 😬😬

I'm descended from a fairly long line of Masons, myself. But, as far as I know, it was just a frat for grown men.

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52 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Also, who'd have figured 956 was a Mason. 😬😬

I'm descended from a fairly long line of Masons, myself. But, as far as I know, it was just a frat for grown men.

It was sort of a given thing for white Protestant men to do who were aspiring or actual pillar of the community types. And it is true as well that an earlier generation of enlightenment/democratic types discussed these ideas at Masonic lodges. The analysis of Masonry as a secret society of powerful puppet masters, though, is very much on the “wet roads cause rain” level. Also very en vogue as a Tsarist bete noir, which is equally true for many ideas later adopted by schizos.

2 hours ago, F250 said:

Both Christian Zionism and the end of days Dispensationalism were born in England. Granted, it didn't catch on like wildfire over there like it did here. America seems to be where all the Christian byproducts of the English reformation go to market.

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The English have a state church and also a developed tendency to encourage their zealots to decamp for other parts of the Anglosphere. As a result they missed some real theological oddities and sped up secularization.

However, it has long been clear that the secularism and rationalism trains are not only on different tracks, but often heading different directions. As evidenced by Mason conspiracy posting and public policy in the Year of our Lord 2025. This is in strong contention for most embarrassing statement— public institutions category in 2025, even with DJT in office.

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Yeah, John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren all originated over there. But yes, it really took hold here.

can one of y'all (or any others reading this post) suggest a primer or three on the various flavors of those estranged from the true church and (particularly) how various flavors have popped up and gained influence here in america? example: as a wine drinking, jesus-eating, non-practicing cat'lick (but i repeat myself) i have no idea what the fuck a cowboy church is.

Edited by elfenix

3 minutes ago, elfenix said:

i have no idea what the fuck a cowboy church is.

Me neither, although I pass the sign on 281 outside Kendalia frequently. I just figured they were some southern baptists that has lax Sunday dress and mixed in a rodeo every once in a while.

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