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Well I think that addresses most of the issues-- literally on the surface.  But does anyone think it'll last?

 

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1 hour ago, utee94 said:

Well I think that addresses most of the issues-- literally on the surface.  But does anyone think it'll last?

 

It addresses most of the worst bits, but yeah, in a very superficial way that they've done before. No, I don't think it'll last. This is really just more of what they did a year ago at T10 ... where the bump on the apex has already returned and the track now weeps water from where the old and new pavement sections meet.

Not to mention that they've done the track work without addressing the drainage issues that Epstein says caused the problems in the first place. I do believe drainage issues are a big part of the problem, but that's not down to broken pipes, imho. And if it were down to broken pipes, it sure seems like he'd want to fix those pipes before putting any money into the track surface.

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He’s not going to put money into this track. I don’t see F1 returning after the current contract is up due to the fee.

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1 minute ago, Goofyboy said:

He’s not going to put money into this track. I don’t see F1 returning after the current contract is up due to the fee.

That's what I'm seeing. IMHO he sees the end in sight and he's doing the absolute minimum to just keep F1, MotoGP, & IndyCar coming for a handful more years, to milk what he can out of it.

I'm starting to think the track is in even worse shape under the asphalt than even we though before.

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For anyone interested, there is a PCA club race combined with a DE on 2/28 - 3/1. Lots of cool cars at the DE combined with a bunch of crazy amateurs at the club race.  

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New onboard video shows areas of COTA that were resurfaced recently...with varying degrees of success.  Esses bumpier than ever, but not addressed.
 

Still a big bump in the T1 braking zone (it's actually visible as he approaches it), and between 9 & 10 where they just resurfaced. Back straight, 16-19, & 2-3 are better. For now. Recently there's already been water seeping up from under the track, where last winter's T10 resurface meets the original pavement downhill of the apex.

 

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Anyone going for the Indy test on Tuesday? I was all in and then the weather for that day started looking a bit less than ideal.

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Yeah I'm still not sure. I'll probably try to go out, but not if it's really shitty.

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12 hours ago, wood said:

INDYCAR to stream COTA Open Test - https://goo.gl/alerts/HFHdH

Stream the smell and feeling, too. 😃

I can't wait to see that new aeroscreen in person. In pictures, not a fan. I get how it's much safer, but I kinda wish they had gone more like F1's halo.

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F1 teams designed the halo in integrate into the car a lot better than indycar has - this version of aeroscreen is bolted onto a car that wasn't designed with it in mind.    won't be until the new chassis that the aesthetics will improve in 2022. 

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Hmmm looks like they're trying to make a weekend-type event out of that concert.  Tent-camping in LOT N looks miserable.  There's nothing even close to level out there.  There are always a handful of folks that do it for F1 each year, and it's pretty obviously a beating.

Also, that's Memorial Day weekend-- my prediction for the weather in Austin?  Biblical flooding.  

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2 hours ago, Paper_jam said:

A Stones concert at a racetrack? I wonder how that's worked out before...

 

Poorly. And not just Altamont. Texas Motor Speedway sucked.

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3 hours ago, Paper_jam said:

A Stones concert at a racetrack? I wonder how that's worked out before...

 

 

31 minutes ago, Deej said:

Poorly. And not just Altamont. Texas Motor Speedway sucked.

No worries. Bobby will say they pulled 100-150K people and everything went perfectly no matter what...

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5 minutes ago, wood said:

 

No worries. Bobby will say they pulled 100-150K people and everything went perfectly no matter what...

Track looks in worse shape than Keith.

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34 minutes ago, Deej said:

Track looks in worse shape than Keith.

He'll probably outlive it, too. But then he'll probably outlive everything...

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Interesting comments by TK on the live stream of IndyCar testing, re: COTA not resurfacing the esses...

Kevin Lee was talking about how weathered the areas were where they didn't resurface, and TK said "It's funny, because they repaved some parts of the track that were bumpy but I did a recon lap and a track walk two days ago, yesterday, and they didn't repave the quick esses, which was the biggest bumps that we had, which is funny. I don't know how that was the option, that they decided to pave one part and not the other part."

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So ... re: the track 'weeping' at Turn 10 that we noticed a couple of weeks ago. It's not in the area that's been most recently resurfaced. It's coming from the 'seam' where the 14 month old T10 resurfacing meets the original pavement. Before this latest resurfacing, you could also see weeping from cracks in the middle of the track, on the hill between T1 and T2, in the original 8+ year old asphalt. There was no camera shot of that area Wednesday, so I'm not sure if it's weeping there again yet, but it will. It's a drainage problem & is going to happen wherever there is an opening, & there are already cracks in the new resurfacing going up T1 and at the apex. Guys who have worked there say they had to pump out the french drains daily for a while after rains, and that whenever it's wet & that isn't done, this is what happens. There seemed to be perpetual puddles & wet spots yesterday anywhere old pavement met new, and all along the new pavement to a lesser extent. They just never dried up, all day, even hours after the old pavement had completely dried.
 
Here's a screenshot of T10 Wednesday afternoon. Look just above the sign support, on the right. That's not one of the puddles I was referring to. That's a steep slope. It's water coming up from below the track, weeping out between original asphalt & the 14 month old section of asphalt. That year-old section of paving starts just before 10 and ends just below it, right where the weeping starts.
 
Hadn't noticed this until this test, but you can also see on that section of pavement that they've already had to do grinding on it, probably during the 2019 USGP weekend, when it was less than 1 year old.

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The SCCA Pro Racing-sanctioned Super Lap Battle returns to Circuit of The Americas in Austin, Texas, for the COTA Time Attack Challenge, Feb. 15-16, 2020. The event will see competitors from around the globe taking on the Grand Prix course.


The best from Australia, Asia, and Europe are coming to battle North America’s fastest drivers, and the clock, while winding through the challenging 3.4-mile, 20-turn circuit. The Elusive Racing Integra out of Melbourne, Australia, driven by Brett Dickie, is confirmed, as well as fellow Aussie Barton Mawer, known for driving the fastest time attack car in the world, the PR Technology Porsche RP968. All will be chasing the Lyfe Motorsports Nissan GTR and Cole Powelson, who is back to defend his crown.


The event also features the GridLife Touring Cup, Lone Star Drift demo & ride a longs, and car show.

https://racer.com/2020/01/09/cota-time-attack-challenge/


Anyone going tomorrow? I'm planning on going and never been before. Was thinking of registering for the car show so I can park inside.

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