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Why don’t you take your comments to the LA Cloak Room thread if you want to talk about state government policy, tax rates, and other non-protest-related news topics?
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See the previous page.
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Thunder is rumbling, and the skies are growing darker. More is on its way, making it the third day in a row of rain, and four of the last five. Bring it - just no more hail, please.
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No, I’ve never held or voiced that opinion. I was born, raised, educated, worked, and raised a family in this state. It is my home, and I will stand my ground against any traitor to the traditional Texan spirit, embodying the notions of 'live and let live,' the 'Golden Rule,' and opposition to authoritarian tyranny. America is also my home, and I believe in the US Constitution and all its Civil Rights, including the inalienable ones: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You don't believe in any of that shit, which makes you both un-Texan and un-American. Go back to whatever shithole your ancestors fled from. You don't belong here.
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As a born, raised, and educated Texan, living here for 53 years, I firmly hold the opinion that this state is fucked. And in my professional and social circles, that is a widely-held belief. I’m sticking around and standing my ground, though, because this place is my home and it’s worth fighting for.
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U.K., Canada, Australia and Others Impose Sanctions on Far-Right Israeli Ministers The coordinated move highlights the hardening of several countries’ stance toward Israel amid the dire humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Five Western countries announced on Tuesday that they would impose sanctions on two far-right Israeli cabinet ministers, a remarkable rebuke of Israel’s leadership and a striking escalation of Western pressure on Israel over settler violence in the West Bank and the conduct of the war in Gaza. Australia, Britain, Canada, New Zealand and Norway jointly imposed the sanctions, which will restrict the right to travel and will freeze the financial assets of the Israeli security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir; and the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich. Mr. Smotrich and Mr. Ben-Gvir are among the most hard-line members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet. Both have called for the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza in statements that the British foreign secretary, David Lammy, has previously condemned as “monstrous.” “Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich have incited extremist violence and serious abuses of Palestinian human rights,” Mr. Lammy and the foreign ministers of the four other countries said in a joint statement on Tuesday. “That is why we have taken action now — to hold those responsible to account.” While the measures are in response to violence in the West Bank, British officials said they were also calculated to ratchet up the pressure on Mr. Netanyahu’s government to negotiate a cease-fire with Hamas in Gaza, at a time when the humanitarian situation in the enclave had become increasingly dire. The Israeli foreign minister, Gideon Saar, reacted defiantly, describing the move as “unacceptable,” and saying the government would meet next week to discuss a response. “It is outrageous that elected representatives and members of the government are subjected to these kind of measures,” Mr. Saar said. The move to blacklist Mr. Ben-Gvir and Mr. Smotrich had been weeks in the making and came after Britain, Canada and France issued a stark statement last month about the treatment of civilians in Gaza. But France did not join in imposing sanctions on Mr. Smotrich and Mr. Ben-Gvir, illustrating some differences in how allies are approaching Israel. British officials said they had sounded out officials in the Trump administration about the planned move in recent weeks and had not encountered strong resistance. In their joint statement, the five countries said, “We will strive to achieve an immediate cease-fire in Gaza, the immediate release of the remaining hostages by Hamas, which can have no future role in the governance of Gaza, a surge in aid, and a path to a two-state solution.” Speaking in Parliament in late May, Mr. Lammy denounced Israel’s conduct of the war. He said that Britain would suspend talks on a trade agreement and blasted comments by Mr. Smotrich about “cleansing” Gaza and moving its two million people to other countries. “We must call this what it is,” Mr. Lammy said. “It is extremism. It is dangerous. It is repellent. It is monstrous.”
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Some people actually give a shit about their hard-earned freedom and rights. I know that might seem foreign to you, as your posting history strongly suggests you don't. All you've ever shown to be interested in is how fat your billfold is, no matter whatever the fuck is going on or whatever damage is being inflicted on others.
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He should go back to wherever he came from. He’s not an American.
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The Way Too Early 2028 Democratic Presidential Candidate Thread
bolverk replied to Bullneck's topic in Cloak Room
Is one of our foundational principles cheering on those who say we should let the second-largest metro area in the country burn? -
And they supposedly love "their" country.
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^^^ Female protester shot at close range with "non-lethal" weapon and trampled by a horse.
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This is really good.
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For those who plan to join any protests, these can be found on Amazon for your protection. https://www.amazon.com/Bionic-Shield-Clear-Polycarbonate-S8500/dp/B001VXXUWK
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https://www.wired.com/story/what-tear-gas-does-to-the-human-body/ https://archive.is/HRjBT As protesters in Los Angeles clashed with law enforcement this weekend over the Trump administration’s immigration raids, police employed military-style tactics, including using tear gas, flash grenades, and pepper-spray projectiles on demonstrators. In one instance, Lauren Tomasi, a reporter with Australia’s 9News, was shot with a rubber bullet fired by law enforcement during a live broadcast. Though not explicitly designed to kill, these so-called “less-lethal” weapons can cause serious health effects—and, in some cases, lasting harm. The use of these weapons can result in respiratory problems, head injuries, and even death. In the United States, police force of all types results in 75,000 nonfatal injuries requiring hospital treatment and 600 to 1,100 deaths every year, according to the Law Enforcement Epidemiology Project at the University of Illinois Chicago. The types of health effects and injuries can vary depending on the weapon being used. Tear gas and pepper spray, types of chemical irritants, can cause tearing, pain, and burning of the eyes, skin irritation, sore throat, sneezing, coughing, and vomiting. Tear gas usually refers to 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile (agent CS) or chloroacetophenone (agent CN), which work by activating pain receptors in the eyes, nose, mouth, and lungs. Pepper spray is highly concentrated pepper oil, oleoresin capsicum (agent OC), which produces a powerful burning sensation. “The short-term effects are immediate and severe,” says Diane Calello, executive and medical director of the New Jersey Poison Center and a professor at the Rutgers New Jersey Medical School. In some cases, people can experience respiratory distress, difficulty breathing, and asthma-like symptoms. Long-term effects are less common but can include asthma, wheezing, loss of vision, and even nerve or brain damage, Calello says. These problems can occur if people are exposed to a large amount of these chemicals or they are sprayed in a closed space. People who smoke or have existing respiratory asthma are at higher risk of developing health problems from exposure to these chemicals, as are children. Because these agents are heavier than air, they linger close to the ground, meaning children can be exposed to higher levels. A 2014 study by the US military has also found that exposure to tear gas and pepper spray make people vulnerable to respiratory infections in the week following exposure compared with the week before exposure. Army recruits exposed to CS tear gas just once during basic training had a much higher likelihood of developing respiratory illnesses such as viral illnesses like influenza, pneumonia, or bronchitis. That study and others led the American Thoracic Society in 2020 to call for a moratorium on the use of tear gas and other chemical agents during racial justice protests. One worry was that their use could increase the chances of getting sick with Covid-19. “The science used to justify the use of tear gas is outdated,” says Sven-Eric Jordt, an associate professor of anesthesiology, pharmacology, and cancer biology at Duke University School of Medicine who helped author the American Thoracic Society recommendations. Much of the research into the health effects of exposure to tear gas and other chemical agents is based on military research that was conducted in the 1950s, ’60s, and ’70s on young, healthy men. He says those studies do not address the potential health effects on a broader civilian population. They also don't take into account more advanced launching technologies developed in recent years that allow for the deployment of much higher amounts of tear gas over longer distances. In some cases, the effects of these agents are not due to the chemicals themselves. “People can be injured when in contact with the canisters used to disperse the gas, and this can include blunt trauma or burn injuries,” Calello says. In Los Angeles, federal agents reportedly fired hard plastic pepper balls, also known as pepper spray projectiles, at protesters. Injuries can also occur from blunt-tipped rubber bullets. Their name is a bit misleading, says Rohini Haar, an emergency physician and medical adviser at Physicians for Human Rights, considering many rubber bullets are actually made of hard plastic or foam and some even have a metal core. “They're not less lethal if they're used lethally,” says Haar, who is also an adjunct professor of epidemiology at UC Berkeley. “There are many, many instances of them causing death, and there's also a lot of trauma that can be caused, even if they don't penetrate the skin.” The biggest concern comes if these projectiles hit the neck or face, especially the eyes. There have been cases of rubber bullets causing blindness, traumatic brain injury, and disfigurement, and less seriously, broken bones in other areas of the body. A 2017 study by Haar and her colleagues found that around 3 percent of people hit by rubber bullets died from the resulting injury, while 15 percent of the 1,984 people studied were permanently injured. A 2020 analysis released by Physicians for Human Rights and coauthored by Haar found that at least 115 people suffered head injuries when law enforcement officers shot them with rubber and plastic bullets during the first two months of US protests in response to the police killing of George Floyd. In 2020, the American Academy of Ophthalmology called on domestic law enforcement officials to end the use of rubber bullets and similar projectiles to control or disperse crowds of protesters. If you are exposed to tear gas or pepper spray, experts recommend getting away as quickly as possible, finding higher ground, and covering your mouth and nose. When it’s possible, remove contaminated clothing and wash with copious amounts of soap and water. If experiencing severe symptoms, seek medical attention immediately. If you plan to attend a protest, consider wearing closed-toe shoes and long sleeves. Eye protection and N95 face masks can also help lessen exposure.
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Civilians rendering aid to a cop hurt by the weapon he wields against them. Cops hurting civilians with the weapons they wield against us.
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That line blew through here at about 3 am. Usually, storms don’t wake me because I keep a fan running for the white noise and the cooling breeze, but I heard this one loud and clear. Fortunately, no hail this time.
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I've had that stupid motherfucking conspiracist, Zeus, on ignore for a while now but saw some of his insanity yesterday because he was being quoted. This board has woken up to a lot of the misinformation that gets spread around and has gotten better at identifying it, but that bullshit still gets floated around a good bit. That said, I realize that a lot of us have also taken the bait and reposted shit a time or two, including myself. But we also have posters, like Zeus, who are habitually guilty of it, whether they're idiotic rubes or deliberate shit smearers. Either way, I think it's about time that there be some retribution for pieces of shit who insist on posting garbage lies over and over again. This NYTimes article mentions at least a couple of the LIES that Zeus posted yesterday. This shit is dangerous, destabilizing, and has gone on far too long. Fuckheads like Zeus deserve no mercy and need to get the boot, because consistently reposting lies is not a legitimate form of political discourse on discussion board full of college-educated adults who happen also to be football fans. Fake Images and Conspiracy Theories Swirl Around L.A. Protests Disinformation spreading on social media platforms has stoked an already tense situation. Misleading photographs, videos and text have spread widely on social media as protests against immigrant raids have unfolded in Los Angeles, rehashing old conspiracy theories and expressing support for President Trump’s actions. The flood of falsehoods online appeared intended to stoke outrage toward immigrants and political leaders, principally Democrats. They also added to the confusion over what exactly was happening on the streets, which was portrayed in digital and social media through starkly divergent ideological lenses. Many posts created the false impression that the entire city was engulfed in violence, when the clashes were limited to only a small part. There were numerous scenes of protesters throwing rocks or other objects at law enforcement officers and setting cars ablaze, including a number of self-driving Waymo taxis. At the same time, false images spread to revive old conspiracies that the protests were a planned provocation, not a spontaneous response to the immigration raids. The confrontation escalated on Monday as new protests occurred and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced — on X — that he was mobilizing 700 Marines from a base near Los Angeles to guard federal buildings. They are expected to join 2,000 members of the California National Guard whom Mr. Trump ordered deployed without the authorization of the state’s governor, Gavin Newsom, who normally has command of the troops. The latest deployments prompted a new wave of misleading images to spread — some purporting to show Marines and the military service’s weapons in action. One was a still from “Blue Thunder,” a 1983 action-thriller about a conspiracy to deprive residents of Los Angeles of their civil rights. It features a climatic dogfight over the city’s downtown. Darren L. Linvill, a researcher at Clemson University’s Media Forensics Hub, said conservatives online were “building up the riots in a performative way” to help bolster Mr. Trump’s claims that Los Angeles had been taken over by “violent, insurrectionist mobs.” Dr. Linvill said the posts were also “a bit self-fulfilling.” “As they direct attention to it,” he said, “more protesters will show up.” James Woods, the actor who has become known for spreading conspiracy theories, used his account on X to rail against the state’s elected officials, especially Mr. Newsom, a Democrat. He also reposted a fabricated quote, attributed to former President Barack Obama, discussing a secret plot to impose socialism on the country, as well as a video of burning police cars that was from 2020. An innocuous photograph of a pallet of bricks, actually posted on the website of a building materials wholesaler in Malaysia, was cited as proof that the protests were organized by nonprofit organizations supported by George Soros, the financier who, to the feverishly conspiratorial right, has become a mastermind of global disorder. “It’s Civil War!!” an account on X wrote on Saturday, claiming that the bricks had been placed near the offices of Immigration and Customs Enforcement for “Democrat militants.” X posted a Community Note pointing out that the photograph had nothing to do with the protests, but it still was seen more than 800,000 times. It was also widely reposted, including by several seemingly inauthentic accounts in Chinese. The online trope dates at least to the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020. It reappeared in 2022 after a conspiratorial post by Representative Lauren Boebert, a Colorado Republican who suggested that bricks for a paving project near Capitol Hill were intended for violent protests after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. “These days, it feels like every time there’s a protest, the old clickbaity ‘pallets of bricks’ hoax shows up right on cue,” the Social Media Lab, a research center at the Toronto Metropolitan University, wrote on Bluesky. “You know the one, photos or videos of bricks supposedly left out to encourage rioting. It’s catnip for right-wing agitators and grifters.” It also fits into the narrative that protests against government policies are somehow inauthentic. On his own platform, Truth Social, Mr. Trump also suggested that the protesters were “Paid Insurrectionists!” Numerous posts echoed unsubstantiated claims that the protests were the work of Mr. Soros as well as local nongovernment organizations or Democratic elected officials, including the mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass. Some posts disparaging the protests were shared by accounts with deceptive handles that closely resembled those of official government sources or news organizations. Mike Benz, a conspiracy-minded influencer on X who last year claimed that the Pentagon used the pop star Taylor Swift as part of a psychological operation to undercut Mr. Trump, advanced an outlandish theory that the mayor had links to the Central Intelligence Agency and had helped start riots in the city where she lives. He based that simply on Ms. Bass’s role as a board member for the National Endowment for Democracy, the congressionally mandated organization formed during the Reagan administration to promote democratic governance around the world. Not surprisingly, perhaps, the theme was echoed by accounts across social media linked to Russia, which often amplifies content that discredits the United States. The Kremlin and its supporters have long accused Mr. Soros or the United States government of covertly sponsoring “color revolutions” to overthrow governments — from the Arab Spring countries swept up by mass street protests in 2011 to Ukraine. “It is nationwide conspiracy of liberals against not only Trump but against American people in general,” Aleksandr Dugin, a prominent nationalist in Russia, wrote on X on Sunday. Disinformation in situations like these spreads so quickly and widely that efforts to verify facts cannot keep up, said Nora Benavidez, senior counsel at Free Press, an advocacy organization that studies the intersection of media, technology and the law. She described it as part of “a much longer effort to delegitimize peaceful resistance movements.” “Information warfare is always a symptom of conflict, stoked often by those in power to fuel their own illiberal goals,” she said. “It confuses audiences, scares people who might otherwise have empathy for the cause and divides us when we need solidarity most.”
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@immamac Hey Boss, I know you said we should just put people on ignore and not harass them, but could you make an exception just this once for our buddy here, Zeus? Please + thank you.
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Nah, that was 1986. Clifford Antone was being held in the minimum security federal prison here at the time and helped organize a benefit concert with Willie as the headliner to help raise funds for the community. True story. Good guy.
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