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2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I, for one, welcome the guillotines. 

 

At this point, an increasingly larger percentage of Americans -- from various spots on the political spectrum -- feels similarly.

The hubris of the billionaire class will be their undoing.  The problem is, as if often the case in such situations, their well-being is too wrapped up in the functioning of the rest of society, so the collateral damage will be significant when it happens.

Plenty of folks have been shouting these warnings for years, including some intelligent and self-aware members of the billionaire class, but human ego, narcissism, and hubris are unstoppable forces.  They will stop only when they meet their brutal destruction, by which point it is way too late.

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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

At this point, an increasingly larger percentage of Americans -- from various spots on the political spectrum -- feels similarly.

The hubris of the billionaire class will be their undoing.  The problem is, as if often the case in such situations, their well-being is too wrapped up in the functioning of the rest of society, so the collateral damage will be significant when it happens.

Plenty of folks have been shouting these warnings for years, including some intelligent and self-aware members of the billionaire class, but human ego, narcissism, and hubris are unstoppable forces.  They will stop only when they meet their brutal destruction, by which point it is way too late.

4th turning. I mean this shit has all happened before already and it's not even that far off from the last time it happened. 

Teddy Roosevelt and trust busting. We are living in similar times, with similar technologies coming to change everything etc etc. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)

 

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21 minutes ago, immamac said:

4th turning. I mean this shit has all happened before already and it's not even that far off from the last time it happened. 

Teddy Roosevelt and trust busting. We are living in similar times, with similar technologies coming to change everything etc etc. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)

 

My great hope is that all of them seem to be pouring all of their energy and wealth into AI.....so when it collapses, it will take them down with it.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

My great hope is that all of them seem to be pouring all of their energy and wealth into AI.....so when it collapses, it will take them down with it.

Mine is that we don't have to have a global scale war. 

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Is this water really not recycled over and over? Please tell me it’s not being pumped out of our aquifer 


FWIW, this generation of data centers are mostly closed loop cooling with little water usage. Up to about 2 or 3 years ago, most were evaporative cooling, which are the water hogs. The big techs switched to closed loop due to community pushback. One big example was in Uruguay, which was developing a Google dc while citizens were drinking brackish water due to a drought. But closed loop is much less efficient, resulting in more power usage.
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31 minutes ago, immamac said:

Mine is that we don't have to have a global scale war. 

 

Oh, my friend.  Hope is for suckers.  Despair following the rules of (1) it only gets worse, and (2) there is no bottom, is where it's at these days.  You should join us out on the ledge.  I think there's even room for you to lie down.

 

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But here's the thing with recycling that water... you can only recycle it so many times and then you have to get rid of it...

https://ketos.co/closed-loop-cooling-water-saver-or-chemical-time-bomb

Operators bleed a small fraction of water each month to keep these levels in check, a practice known as blow-down. Even a 2% monthly bleed sounds proactive, yet contaminants can still rise much faster than in open towers that take on fresh water continuously. Higher cycles push minerals out of solution, feed microbial slime, and shorten equipment life.

The bigger worry sits outside the fence. When blow-down finally leaves the site, it can carry nitrite, glycol, and heavy metals at thousands of times the limits set for surface waters. In other words, the water saved today may return tomorrow as a very different kind of liability.

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4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

At this point, an increasingly larger percentage of Americans -- from various spots on the political spectrum -- feels similarly.

The hubris of the billionaire class will be their undoing.  The problem is, as if often the case in such situations, their well-being is too wrapped up in the functioning of the rest of society, so the collateral damage will be significant when it happens.

Plenty of folks have been shouting these warnings for years, including some intelligent and self-aware members of the billionaire class, but human ego, narcissism, and hubris are unstoppable forces.  They will stop only when they meet their brutal destruction, by which point it is way too late.

I read a great quote in a history book i just read "The History of History" which is a good, light read.

something like:

"the rich either agree to redistribute wealth and take a hit, and go on still being rich, or the poor cause a revolution and redistribute poverty to everyone".

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Posted
1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Why not put these data centers in the north?  So when the servers get hot all you gotta do is literally open the windows?

Serious question.

Or you could always go south...

Antarctica Eyed by Microsoft and Amazon for Future Cloud Data Centers

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5 hours ago, Parliament said:

Why not put these data centers in the north?  So when the servers get hot all you gotta do is literally open the windows?

Serious question.

like the northern United States? Mainly because they need to be generally close to the population they are serving. There's not exactly a bunch of internet run to the low population north, there's also not a lot of energy infrastructure.



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