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We will always have this weird beauty pageant invitational crap because there are too many competing businesses (conferences) that are self-serving. 

If we want to play fantasy for a minute: conferences would get blown up, realigned for parity, long standing rivalries and geography as best as possible. Each division can just be the conference name instead of something boring like west/north etc

10 teams per conference, 6 conferences. Round robin, no CCG. Top 2 teams in each conference get auto bids. If needed, a wild card system can be devised.

The remaining +60 programs would be put in the new  FBS-II or something with 7 conferences and 10 teams per, with their own separate playoffs. There are 136 teams in FBS, so things don't divide perfectly. Or 8 conferences in FBS and 6 in FBS-II etc. 

Maybe allow some teams from FBS-II to move up (i.e. for winning FBS-II titles) and then push some of the bottom dwellers in FBS down etc based on performance. 

I'm sure there are some tweaks that could make it better, but that's just off the top of my head.

--End of fantasy--

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3 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

I fucking told you earlier this season, verbatim, that Indiana was more physical and better in the trenches than the other "top" B1G teams, despite their talent level, and that they would have something to say about not only who plays Ohio State for the title but the title itself, while you just sat there and assumed it would be Ohio State vs Oregon, even after Indiana went into Eugene and manhandled them. I told you that it was impossible to tell if Ohio State was actually all that good because the only tough game they had played and would likely play the rest of the season was against a green Arch Manning in the season opener. You know why I was right and you were wrong? Because I guarantee you that you never watched a single second, outside of maybe highlights, of this Indiana team (you didn't even seem to know that they had beaten Oregon on the road when we had this conversation months ago) and just made a series of assumptions based on basically nothing but helmet logos.

Their talent level on paper is lower than most other top 25 P4 teams, but they were at least on the same level as Ohio State from a physicality standpoint, and I'd argue that they were flat out better, this was not a fluke performance, and they'd be able to repeat that probably 6-7 times out of 10 against them. There was somebody in the game thread trying to argue with a straight face that Ohio State won the battle in the trenches last night and I just can't understand how people get so chalk brained sometimes even when shit is happening in front of their eyes.

It wasn't just in the trenches, either, they were better at every single position other than arguably wide receiver and it was probably a wash in the secondary.

God damn, man! OK! 

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3 hours ago, redswingline said:

We will always have this weird beauty pageant invitational crap because there are too many competing businesses (conferences) that are self-serving. 

If we want to play fantasy for a minute: conferences would get blown up, realigned for parity, long standing rivalries and geography as best as possible. Each division can just be the conference name instead of something boring like west/north etc

10 teams per conference, 6 conferences. Round robin, no CCG. Top 2 teams in each conference get auto bids. If needed, a wild card system can be devised.

The remaining +60 programs would be put in the new  FBS-II or something with 7 conferences and 10 teams per, with their own separate playoffs. There are 136 teams in FBS, so things don't divide perfectly. Or 8 conferences in FBS and 6 in FBS-II etc. 

Maybe allow some teams from FBS-II to move up (i.e. for winning FBS-II titles) and then push some of the bottom dwellers in FBS down etc based on performance. 

I'm sure there are some tweaks that could make it better, but that's just off the top of my head.

--End of fantasy--

This would be nice but pretty sure what we are going to get is the SEC/B1G break off to do their own thing.

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17 hours ago, Hellraiser97 said:

I understand why teams that have coaching changes are dropping bowl bids, but I don't get why any of those are.

I read onetime the payout on those lower bowls is not much.  Net expense for the school.  Not saying they SHOILD opt out, but they do have a reason 

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I don't disagree with OP's belief that the CFP is destroying college football. 

The difference is, I see it as removing pestilence, not wrecking a work of art. 

Paying players, allowing them to transfer, having a real playoff and getting rid of the old boy network bullshit that gave some schools a boost just for being those schools are curing a sickness that infested college football for far too long. The old ways were rancid and vile. Fuck em. 

I'll take a missed playoff opportunity here and there over the bullshit we had before.

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ESPN is what has ruined college football.

Yes, it gives us all the games on TV, and that is a great thing.  But in return, we had to sell our souls to the Mouse.  ESPN, and by extension it's leading competitor Fox, have destroyed what made college football great.  The conference realignments have been about one thing and one thing only...money.  College athletics sold its soul (regional conferences, old rivalries and traditions, etc.) for the almighty dollar.  The CFP is just an extension of that.

We wanted a true championship, but what we got was an enslavement to ESPN.  One television network should not own the entire CFP.  But they do, and they've manipulated the conferences into a realignment that only benefits the network.  We all mock the B1G for considering the PE route (and we are right to do so, because it's an insane thing to do), but at the same time we fail to realize WE'VE ALREADY SOLD OUT TO PRIVATE EQUITY.  And that PE is ESPN.

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7 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I read onetime the payout on those lower bowls is not much.  Net expense for the school.  Not saying they SHOILD opt out, but they do have a reason 

it is a negative to some school, but that is mostly because the schools involved in those do not get the payout. I know the SEC gives travel payments to playoff teams, but postseason payouts are pooled and distributed across the conference. To simplify it Texas will get 1/16 of the Citrus bowl payout but get 1/16 of playoff participants also. The smaller conferences do not have that luxury

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6 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

ESPN is what has ruined college football.

Yes, it gives us all the games on TV, and that is a great thing.  But in return, we had to sell our souls to the Mouse.  ESPN, and by extension it's leading competitor Fox, have destroyed what made college football great.  The conference realignments have been about one thing and one thing only...money.  College athletics sold its soul (regional conferences, old rivalries and traditions, etc.) for the almighty dollar.  The CFP is just an extension of that.

We wanted a true championship, but what we got was an enslavement to ESPN.  One television network should not own the entire CFP.  But they do, and they've manipulated the conferences into a realignment that only benefits the network.  We all mock the B1G for considering the PE route (and we are right to do so, because it's an insane thing to do), but at the same time we fail to realize WE'VE ALREADY SOLD OUT TO PRIVATE EQUITY.  And that PE is ESPN.

This is bit off. ESPN tried to stop mega-conferences with the Longhorn network. They did not want the SEC and Big 10 to power brokers. 

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8 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

ESPN is what has ruined college football.

Yes, it gives us all the games on TV, and that is a great thing.  But in return, we had to sell our souls to the Mouse.  ESPN, and by extension it's leading competitor Fox, have destroyed what made college football great.  The conference realignments have been about one thing and one thing only...money.  College athletics sold its soul (regional conferences, old rivalries and traditions, etc.) for the almighty dollar.  The CFP is just an extension of that.

We wanted a true championship, but what we got was an enslavement to ESPN.  One television network should not own the entire CFP.  But they do, and they've manipulated the conferences into a realignment that only benefits the network.  We all mock the B1G for considering the PE route (and we are right to do so, because it's an insane thing to do), but at the same time we fail to realize WE'VE ALREADY SOLD OUT TO PRIVATE EQUITY.  And that PE is ESPN.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

ESPN is what has ruined college football.

Yes, it gives us all the games on TV, and that is a great thing.  But in return, we had to sell our souls to the Mouse.  ESPN, and by extension it's leading competitor Fox, have destroyed what made college football great.  The conference realignments have been about one thing and one thing only...money.  College athletics sold its soul (regional conferences, old rivalries and traditions, etc.) for the almighty dollar.  The CFP is just an extension of that.

We wanted a true championship, but what we got was an enslavement to ESPN.  One television network should not own the entire CFP.  But they do, and they've manipulated the conferences into a realignment that only benefits the network.  We all mock the B1G for considering the PE route (and we are right to do so, because it's an insane thing to do), but at the same time we fail to realize WE'VE ALREADY SOLD OUT TO PRIVATE EQUITY.  And that PE is ESPN.

If the mouse was truly in charge, ND and Texas would be in.  Not James Madison, Tulane etc .

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20 minutes ago, Mr. Drummond said:

If the mouse was truly in charge, ND and Texas would be in.  Not James Madison, Tulane etc .

I'm sure Disney is thrilled at the prospect of not maximizing profits.

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44 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

it is a negative to some school, but that is mostly because the schools involved in those do not get the payout. I know the SEC gives travel payments to playoff teams, but postseason payouts are pooled and distributed across the conference. To simplify it Texas will get 1/16 of the Citrus bowl payout but get 1/16 of playoff participants also. The smaller conferences do not have that luxury

Unless it's changed, it's also insane how much and what they spend money on.  I remember one of our Holiday Bowls an article broke it down.  One of the main line items was buying a PS2 and 5 or 10 games for every player.  Another was leather jackets with the Holiday Bowl logo on them (would they even wear those after the game?)  All sorts of stuff like that.  I get that it was a way to essentially pay players, but then don't go complaining how you lost money on it.

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