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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Your post  is a lazy. Tulsi is added to a long list of politicians who happen to reject dysfunctional American foreign policy and get knee jerk labeled as Russian assets. She fucking served this country overseas, broke a few gender barriers along the way, and dipshits here label her a traitor to her country cause they have brain worms. Lazy is right. 

“No you are.”  Haha.  That’s almost as lazy as your typical “Both sides do it!” bullshit.  

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2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

“No you are.”  Haha.  That’s almost as lazy as your typical “Both sides do it!” bullshit.  

An yet you deploy an even lazier response.

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I don't sit around sniffing soldier jock straps, but sorry if I think that we should give a little bit more credit to the people who have fucking served this country than to turn on them and label them assets of a foreign nation because we disagree with their political positions.  Intellectually fucking lazy is right. 

 

Military service

In April 2003, while serving in the State Legislature, Gabbard enlisted in the Hawaii Army National Guard.[26] In July 2004, she was deployed for a 12-month tour in Iraq, serving as a specialist [27] with the Medical Company, 29th Support Battalion, 29th Infantry Brigade Combat Team.[28] Gabbard served at Logistical Support Area Anaconda in Iraq, completing her tour in 2005.[29][30]

In 2006, Gabbard began serving as a legislative aide for then U.S. Senator from Hawaii Daniel Akaka in Washington, D.C.,[31] and in March 2007, she graduated from the Accelerated Officer Candidate School at the Alabama Military Academy. Gabbard was the first woman to finish as the distinguished honor graduate in the Academy's 50-year history.[32][31][33][34] She was commissioned as a second lieutenant and assigned to the 29th Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 29th Infantry Brigade Combat Team of the Hawaii Army National Guard, this time to serve as an Army Military Police officer.[35][36][37] She was deployed to Kuwait from 2008 to 2009. There, as a primary trainer for the Kuwait National Guard, she was among the first women ever to set foot inside a Kuwait military facility. She was also the first woman to be honored for outstanding work in its training program.[38][39][30][40]

On October 12, 2015, Gabbard was promoted from captain to major at a ceremony at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific. Akaka administered the oath of office to the new major.[41][42] She continues to serve as a major in the Hawaii Army National Guard.[43]

 

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Tulsi hired a PR guy who worked with Russians? That's what PR guys do.

Hillary's campaign was run by John Podesta of the Podesta Group, a lobbying/PA firm investigated by Mueller for its Eastern European connections/activities. And they run operations for Wal-mart, Bank of America, and other organizations more evil than Russia.

Tulsi sucks. That's the end of it.

 

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15 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I don't sit around sniffing soldier jock straps, but sorry if I think that we should give a little bit more credit to the people who have fucking served this country

Where do you stand on Colin Powell?

The laziest position of all is "they served our country, we should assign more weight to their opinions".

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8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Where do you stand on Colin Powell?

The laziest position of all is "they served our country, we should assign more weight to their opinions".

Straw man. I am not suggesting that we assign greater weight to their opinions. I am suggesting that perhaps if they have served their country honorably maybe we should take a little breath before we knee jerk label them a foreign asset and a traitor because they advocate a different foreign policy political perspective than the brain damaged main body politic.   

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9 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

I think telling the truth is a good thing.

That's what Hillary did.

Hillary Clinton is a piece of shit.

That's an opinion.  I think she seemed to do well as Secretary of State. She took the olive branch Obama offered.

She's always been a piece of shit.

She and her rapist husband are responsible for the destruction of the Democratic party and the evolution of the party into the corporatist hell that it is today.

About all I can agree with is that Bill has some #metoo issues that could bear revisiting.

She took two bites at the presidential apple and lost twice.

That's happened a lot.  Not a big deal.

 

9 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

The second time everyone in her corrupt party lined up behind her and she still couldn't win. Someone who didn't line up behind her was Tulsi Gabbard, who had to quit the DNC in order to support someone who wasn't Hillary.  Is anyone here really, seriously thinking that Clinton, who spends her time speaking for money and hiding from doing anything to help real people, is some kind of expert in Tulsi and Russia? No. She's a vindictive and petty loser who is still surrounded by nothing but sycophants.

A lot of people speak for money.  Why hold her to a higher standard?

Please cite two examples of her pettiness and vindictiveness.  Please give names of two syncophants.  

 

9 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Failed presidential candidates shouldn't be lobbing accusations like this.

Fuck Hillary Clinton. Fuck that whole garbage family.

Several writers in the NYT noted Gabbard spending a lot of time in the debates talking about how she wasn't a Russian plant, rather than what she was going to do when elected.

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Who said this: "[Hillary Clinton] is doing this because it's very clear to her that she knows she can't control me, that if I'm elected president, then she will not be able to come in & try to influence or manipulate me or the policies that I will lead forward for our country."  No looking:

A. Donald Trump

B. Donald Trump, Jr. 

C. Tulsi Gabbard

D. Barack Obama

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16 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Straw man. I am not suggesting that we assign greater weight to their opinions. I am suggesting that perhaps if they have served their country honorably maybe we should take a little breath before we knee jerk label them a foreign asset and a traitor because they advocate a different foreign policy political perspective than the brain damaged main body politic.   

What if Hillary already took a little breath and decided "no, Tulsi is a foreign asset"?

Your rush to dismiss the outlandish statement seems at odds with the possibility that said statement is true.

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This probably is why people are suspicious of her.

She's a nobody and a media whore.  No one should give a shit about her.  Way too much being spent on a pretender.  And fuck Hillary too.  You're 15 minutes is up, go make your money and stop trying to be relevant.

 

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If you don't think Obama would've said shit like that you didn't pay attention to the 2007/8 primary which was basically a few steps away from a fistfight. (And in the case of some primary voting lines, it sometimes literally was. Hillary and Obama voters were in separate lines at my location and it was furious old white women in the Hillary line shouting at a line of mostly dudes (Hillary's camp was in meltdown mode because by the time of the Texas primary it was clear Obama had the juice).

 

 

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That's totally cool if you want to argue that the people of Syria are better off under the boot of a dictator instead of living in a perpetual war. Personally, I probably would too. I mean, the internet must suck when bombs and chemical weapons are constantly going off. But you don't fucking give the dictator a pass and you don't give his power brokers (Russia, Iran) a pass. That pass is what doesn't smell right about her. 

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3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

If you don't think Obama would've said shit like that you didn't pay attention to the 2007/8 primary which was basically a few steps away from a fistfight. (And in the case of some primary voting lines, it sometimes literally was. Hillary and Obama voters were in separate lines at my location and it was furious old white women in the Hillary line shouting at a line of mostly dudes (Hillary's camp was in meltdown mode because by the time of the Texas primary it was clear Obama had the juice).

 

 

This EXACTLY describes my polling location. Were you in Houston? Zip code 77056 at the time?

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9 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

This EXACTLY describes my polling location. Were you in Houston? Zip code 77056 at the time?

I was the guy in giant Hawaiian print shorts and a Big Johnson t-shirt.

Tulsi is not alone in hugging and kissing monsters.

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4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Tulsi is not alone in hugging and kissing monsters.

If posters here were really honest about rooting out foreign interference in American politics, Russia would have to stretch across the goal line to make the top three In terms of offending nations. 

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15 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

This fiery latina was trying to disqualify people in the Obama line and we were like, "nope." 

sounds hot

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31 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

If posters here were really honest about rooting out foreign interference in American politics, Russia would have to stretch across the goal line to make the top three In terms of offending nations. 

This is where you routinely get over your skis.  Let's take your post at face value:  Russia is not the biggest offender when it comes to interfering in US elections.  OK, fine.  I'll assume you're referring to China, among others.

You're basically waging a war of snobbery -- YOU DON'T STUDY AS MUCH AS I DO -- which essentially tells those who only have so much time to keep up with foreign affairs that they don't matter, because they're concerned about Russian influence, and you (giggle giggle) know more.

How about you use that big fucking brain and educate us on your advanced knowledge instead of being a smug prick constantly trying to make others feel bad about their legitimately earned perspectives, given their limited time and the constant bombardment of the media?  I mean, forget the fact that you often get totally twisted up with your hyper-libertarian views.  Let's say you're right.  Do you want to be right and lose or right and win?

For fuck's sake.  Which side are you on?

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7 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

#IAmTulsi is the #1 trend on Twitter right now.  So fucking stupid.

Hillary Clinton is more of a detriment to the U.S. right now than Gabbard. 

 

Source expanding on an idea from earlier. 

“The Russian propaganda machine that tried to influence the 2016 U.S. election is now promoting the presidential aspirations of a controversial Hawaii Democrat who earlier this month declared her intention to run for president in 2020.

An NBC News analysis of the main English-language news sites employed by Russia in its 2016 election meddling shows Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is set to make her formal announcement Saturday, has become a favorite of the sites Moscow used when it interfered in 2016.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261

 

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3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hillary still triggers everyone is the real takeaway.

Yeah weird turns out it's kind of a big deal when a former presidential candidate accuses a current presidential candidate (and sitting Congresswoman and military veteran) within her own party of being a Russian spy

It's the totally normal thing that always happens and everyone is just overreacting to puppet master Hillary

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We currently give Israel billions of dollars every year not for self-defense, but for territorial expansion and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

We are huge allies to Saudi Arabia, a nation responsible for the worst humanitarian crisis in the world (Yemen) and also a nation responsible for 9/11.

And that's just two very quick and easy examples of nations we work very closely with who are worse than Russia.

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Stanning for Russia to defend Tulsi is an interesting play call. Let’s see how this goes...

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In an alternative universe, I’m sure private citizen Donald Trump would remain silent during the Clinton Administration and not be gaslighting the county 24/7 on all the MSM outlets with crazy conspiracy theories about servers in Ukraine, deleted emails, and widespread voter fraud. 

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3 minutes ago, Lurch said:

Not “Russian spy”.

oh ok cool just "asset"

lol the normal thing that is commonly thrown around at people within your own party without any evidence

Gotcha!

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

In an alternative universe, I’m sure private citizen Donald Trump would remain silent during the Clinton Administration and not be gaslighting the county 24/7 on all the MSM outlets with crazy conspiracy theories about servers in Ukraine, deleted emails, and widespread voter fraud. 

Clinton is complete dogshit like Trump is, I agree.

Welcome to the team.

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6 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

oh ok cool just "asset"

lol the normal thing that is commonly thrown around at people within your own party without any evidence

Gotcha!

Clinton is complete dogshit like Trump is, I agree.

Welcome to the team.

You know, it's possible that Hillary Clinton knows infinitely more about the subject than you.  But hey, wut?  MORE THAN B_T?  Lulz.

You are the epitome of a shit-stirrer.  I legitimately question your motivations, to the point that it would not surprise me one bit if YOU were funded by <those guys>.

Fucking waste of breath . . .

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18 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hillary still triggers everyone is the real takeaway.

Any fresh Hillary story immediately bumps all Fox News programming and occupies the next 24 hour cycle. 

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Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has apparently gotten an endorsement she said she can do without — from former KKK leader David Duke.

The 68-year-old white supremacist and former GOP Louisiana state senator plastered a banner on his Twitter page prominently featuring a photograph of the Hawaiian lawmaker, the New York Post reported.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/rep-tulsi-gabbard-gets-2020-endorsement-from-david-duke-2019-10-19

 

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26 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is where you routinely get over your skis.  Let's take your post at face value:  Russia is not the biggest offender when it comes to interfering in US elections.  OK, fine.  I'll assume you're referring to China, among others.

 

14 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

We currently give Israel billions of dollars every year not for self-defense, but for territorial expansion and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

We are huge allies to Saudi Arabia, a nation responsible for the worst humanitarian crisis in the world (Yemen) and also a nation responsible for 9/11.

And that's just two very quick and easy examples of nations we work very closely with who are worse than Russia.

These are the easy #1 and #2 spots.  Things all become a bit jumbled after that. 

28 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

You're basically waging a war of snobbery -- YOU DON'T STUDY AS MUCH AS I DO -- 

You are waging a war of dipshittery.

28 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

For fuck's sake.  Which side are you on?

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

You know, it's possible that Hillary Clinton knows infinitely more about the subject than you.  But hey, wut?  MORE THAN B_T?  Lulz.

You are the epitome of a shit-stirrer.  I legitimately question your motivations, to the point that it would not surprise me one bit if YOU were funded by <those guys>.

Fucking waste of breath . . .

hahaha fucking brain worms

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Golly, that's a shock.

Yeah why didn't you get a serious and thoughtful response to a neg and then accusation of being a paid Russian agent? Weird seems like a normal brain thing to say that deserves normal and considered responses you are not insane at all not even a little.

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1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

These are the easy #1 and #2 spots.  Things all become a bit jumbled after that. 

Oh, so you equate monetary support to election interference?  That's your angle?  I overestimated your intelligence.

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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

*hides giant novelty check signed "V. Putin" under my postin' chair*

Don't be an equivocating, shit-slinging jackass and maybe people won't question your motivations.  You bring nothing to this board but noise.  Not one damned thing.  You couldn't take a legimate, defensible consistent position if (we) paid you.

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Oh, so you equate monetary support to election interference?

hahahaha

ahahahahahaha

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Don't be an equivocating, shit-slinging jackass and maybe people won't question your motivations. 

nice meltdown

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3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Yeah why didn't you get a serious and thoughtful response to a neg and then accusation of being a paid Russian agent? Weird seems like a normal brain thing to say that deserves normal and considered responses you are not insane at all not even a little.

Sorry my neg upset you.  Grow some skin.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Sorry my neg upset you.  Grow some skin.

Says the guy who I wasn't even talking to jumping in to neg me and accuse me of being a paid Russian agent. Perfect.

jimmy, my pal, tell me why Russia is a terrible adversary and Saudi Arabia isn't.

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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

hahahaha

ahahahahahaha

nice meltdown

I'm perfectly fine.  What people like you don't seem to get (or <gasp> maybe you do) is that the single biggest weapon against the electorate is discord.  I'll let you try to connect the dots.  50/50 chance, and if you pull it off, it's 50/50 you'll respond honestly.  You have a long history here.

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Just now, bad_teammate said:

jimmy, my pal, tell me why Russia is a terrible adversary and Saudi Arabia isn't.

You first.  Tell me where I said SA wasn't an adversary.

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

You first.  Tell me where I said SA wasn't an adversary.

You can't ask a question after me and then say "you first", that's just illogical.

You know that politicians take money from SA and that we work closely with SA in Democratic presidencies and you know Hillary was Secretary of State who worked with SA to help kill lots and lots and lots of civilians. Is/was she an "agent" or "asset" of an adversary? Was/is Obama?

Your hysterical reaction to someone pointing out that Tulsi seems to be acting like a normal politician leads me to believe that you don't feel the same about SA as you do Russia. I might be mistaken, and I would be interested to hear your fulsome explanation.

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11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Oh, so you equate monetary support to election interference?  That's your angle?  I overestimated your intelligence.

You think that their influence is limited to monetary support?

 

We have all apparently overestimated yours. 

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The discussion I entered was about which 2+ countries were more involved in election interference than Russia.  That's my angle.  If you don't support the position that SA is one of them, then take it up with Anastasis.  I'm not talking about monetary support, I'm talking about election interference.

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Just now, Anastasis said:

You think that their influence is limited to monetary support?

 

We have all apparently overestimated yours. 

Well, at least I have the consensus.  So you believe SA hacked our election systems?  You believe they are engaged in vote manipulation/change?  What exactly are you saying?

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