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Boy, 11, shot by gang as he played video games in his room after dad answered door to men disguised as delivery drivers

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/watchpeoplesurvive/comments/gjmr92/fake_ups_delivery_driver_turns_into_a_breakin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11536810/boy-shot-while-playing-video-games/

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/upminster-shooting-police-arrest-third-4105012

His father — thought to be flooring firm boss Ray Hawkins, 45 — is understood to have opened the door at 9.30pm on Friday thinking that a parcel was being delivered.

The masked gang — one possibly wearing a courier uniform — burst in, slashing his head with a machete, shouting: “Where’s the safe?”

His son was in another room playing a computer game but was blasted in the arm when the raiders went in searching for cash.

 

 

 

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in london.  arrested a 16 and 18 yo but let them both go, 16yo on bail and 18yo on no further charges.  weird.  

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48 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

9:30pm seems very late to get a package.

It's late but I doubt it's unheard of.  I imagine with the pandemic volume is extending a lot of delivery hours.

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2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

9:30pm seems very late to get a package.

 

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2 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

in london.  arrested a 16 and 18 yo but let them both go, 16yo on bail and 18yo on no further charges.  weird.  

british machete slashing law much be pretty different from ours.

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5 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

in london.  arrested a 16 and 18 yo but let them both go, 16yo on bail and 18yo on no further charges.  weird.  

It says in the last article they arrested a third person.  

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5 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

in london.  arrested a 16 and 18 yo but let them both go, 16yo on bail and 18yo on no further charges.  weird.  

 

2 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

british machete slashing law much be pretty different from ours.

Well, remember that US jurisdictions have mostly lost sight of the purpose of bail and pretrial detention.  Originally, bail was to secure appearance at trial.  Then it became a device for detaining "exceptionally dangerous" defendants before they had been adjudicated guilty or actually exceptionally dangerous.

Although this was a violent crime, no one was killed and I'm not sure being held without bail would really be appropriate in a place that isn't paralyzed by politically motivated and driven fear.

Our expectations are probably out of whack, just like our CJ system.

Seems like the 16 year old should probably have entered the juvenile system, though.  No idea how that works in the UK.

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