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Everything posted by Brisketexan
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Oh, about 20-30 other events do, but I was confining it to (1) events that were based on the issues the POTUS just spoke about (immigration and "crime") where (2) we have direct and plain-spoken statements by the killer of "yep, that's why I killed those people."
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Also, note that the question/challenge I've raised above, to all of those folks who were super concerned about "inflammatory political speech leading to violence," has been raised at least three times just by me. Number of those folks who have the balls to address it: And here's why: because they actually don't have any problem with inflammatory speech inciting people to violence. They fucking LIKE it. How do we know? Because the people spouting that inflammatory shit, about "vermin," and "invaders?" They joyfully voted to put them in office and give them absolute power. They spoke their support for it at the ballot box. They want brown people murdered. They want black people murdered. They want jewish people murdered. They want trans people murdered. They want cops working at the CDC murdered. Understand that yet again, every accusation is a confession. MAGA wants you dead. Because their president wants you dead. He just fucking said so.
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Dude....nobody in MAGA land has any problem with that. As in, they have 0.0% problem with it, because they agree with it. Here is the transcript, posted again for all of those posters who were super-duper mega-maximum concerned about how inflammatory political rhetoric is really, really bad (a conclusion they just arrived at on September 10th, by the way): When asked about radicals on the right and radicals on the left, and asked “how do we fix this country?”, this was the response of the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: “I couldn’t care less. The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don’t want to see crime. They don’t want to see crime. Worried about the border. They’re saying ‘we don’t want these people coming in, we don’t want you burning our shopping centers, we don’t want you shooting our people in the middle of the street.’ The radicals on the left are the problem.” Translation: radical violence on the right is okay, because they are just worried about crime and the border and such. The following is a list of SOME of such "radicals on the right" who were "worried about the border" and "don't want to see crime," and took action in furtherance of those goals (and again, we're not guessing -- they literally said that's why they did what they did, verbally and in writing): El Paso shooter: murdered 22 hispanic people. Buffalo shooter: murdered 9 black people. Tree of Life shooter: murdered 11 jewish people. In case you missed it, not only did the President say those are not a problem, he said they are okay, because he agrees with their motives. Political violence is okay, and the President "couldn't care less" about it, so long as it is in furtherance of causes he agrees with. Defend this, MAGAs. Defend this, all of you who over the past 48 hours were super-duper pissed about politically inflammatory rhetoric causing (you thought) a single death. I mean, since you now see that such rhetoric caused at least 42 deaths, AND you see that the President is fine with that rhetoric (which you yourself said is a bad thing), DEFEND IT.
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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
Brisketexan replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
...and also we need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. That's important as well. -
[Brisket, confirming that he digs a good rugelach] WHEW! I'm good.
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Bullshit.
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To summarize: we live in a world where a GOP elected official (MTG) rails against "corporate communism." Insane cognitive dissonance is the order of the day.
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There is no signal, no truth....only noise. That is the root of our entire fucking problem. It's not just that it's all noise, it's that noise is elevated to a sacramental level, and signal/rational objectivity is demonized.
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Well, depending on how you feel about the current direction of the Arch-led offense.....those might not be inconsistent views.
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Dude. That would presume that the desire to finally have an excuse to murder the fuck out of leftists in "all-out war" and ban all speech and political activities in opposition to the regime - which they have shouted for at crescendo-levels for the past couple of days - depends on some sort of rational foundation being in place. You're adorable.
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Dude, it's simple, and totally makes sense. Here, look at this display I put together....
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Yep. DOTUS just excused, justified, and approved of right wing violence motivated by hatred for "immigrants and crime" - on live TV. Said, literally, "it's not a problem," because those are good motives. But that approach by the actual president of the united states...well, it's no problem at all.
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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
Brisketexan replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
Brisketexan replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Just putting this back on top, because gosh.....ALL of the people who were SUPER DUPER ALL THE WAY MEGA-CONCERNED about violent political rhetoric are....missing? Abducted by aliens? Gosh, we should investigate what happened to them. Get Kash's FBI on it, presuming he's not already cavorting with Loki or some shit. Because I'm really worried. All those folks who had a good-faith, genuine concern about violent political rhetoric and its inevitable ramifications, well, surely they'll be along to say "yeah, that DOTUS said is truly fucked up, and dead-wrong" any minute now.....any...minute...now. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
Brisketexan replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Also, it seems that we're still not able to (and may never be able to) put the shooter in any specific ideological box. Seems like the only thing that looks certain here is that he was was subjected to and joined in on some fucked up ideas from "online weirdo" world, which seems to be a theme of some frequency nowadays. Bottom line: as a society, we've created an information infrastructure that spews online insanity at firehose pressure from countless different outlets. And as a result, the number of people who fall prey to any of an infinite number of permutations of online batshittery has risen exponentially. And the more vulnerable folks you inflame, the more that are likely to turn that inflammation into action. TLDR; when our main focus as a society is setting as many fires as we can, we can't be surprised when some of those fires explode and cause material external harm. Yet we live in a society where nothing is valued more than...being inflammatory and setting fires. So, we're gonna get more of it. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
Brisketexan replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Guess they'll have to hang JD Vance, as he compared Trump to Hitler. Of course, they also wanted to hang Mike Pence, so....sic semper Trump's VPs, I guess. -
Man. We were all better off when the main internet meme was that stupid dancing baby.
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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
Brisketexan replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
There you have it. Note how I have referenced some "radicals on the right," like the mass-murdering shooters in El Paso, Buffalo, and Pittsburgh? And our local MAGA defenders here said "nobody is celebrating them?" The president....Of the entire United States...Just said in plain English that those people -- who openly stated that their motivation was immigration, crime....pretty much the laundry list he JUST SAID in that clip -- are not a problem. Right wing radicals motivated by rhetoric on immigration, crime, and the like -- which 100% includes men who murdered 22 brown people, 9 black people, and 11 jewish people (and there are several others I'm not listing here) -- are not a problem, because he AGREES WITH THEIR MOTIVES/PURPOSE. Signed, YOUR POTUS Defend that. Anyone. Defend it. Go ahead, step up, this is your guy.- 6534 replies
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This too. There's a near 0% chance the shooter was aiming for a neck shot. It was very likely a head shot, perhaps a chest shot, and he missed....but it missed into a lethal spot. Which, again, most experienced deer hunters have done at one point or another -- "that wasn't exactly where I was aiming....but deer down, so all good."
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Yep. And the social media world is FULL of right wingers spouting how this was obviously a pro hit with a vast conspiracy involving Dems at the highest levels…while meanwhile, anyone who has ever made a 150+ yard shot with a 30/06 (a class that surely includes dozens of posters on here) was thinking “wait, this means I’m a professional assassin?”
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I suspect we'll also be able to add in there "wasn't getting laid." Young sexually frustrated dudes seems to be a particular point of vulnerability in modern America.
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Oh, but wait....don't forget the Buffalo shooter who murdered 9 black people for being black: What's that? We also have the Tree of Life shooter who killed 11 jews for being jewish? So, we have actual political leaders -- including high-level members of the governing regime -- fomenting those EXACT ideas, using those EXACT words. Celebrating those events? How about tossing the gasoline on the fire that makes them inevitable? I guess that's cool. So cool that you should actually reward the people who say them and push them with your vote. I just find it amazing that we have (1) actual political leaders pushing hateful rhetoric, (2) awful people unquestionably inspired by that rhetoric (3) murdering dozens of people to serve that rhetoric and purpose.....and not only do y'all not care, you reward the speakers with your vote. But this week -- and not until this week -- "violence-inciting" speech is the greatest threat you've ever heard of. I even see conservatives going online, crying "now we're being hunted!" Dude. Black people, jews, hispanics, we're all over here going:
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So.....people who incite hate that leads to violence are awful humans. Huh. Where, oh where, did the El Paso shooter who murdered 22 people for being brown hear these ideas, terms, and words? Are the people who have repeatedly used those violence-inducing terms and labels "awful humans" as well? I'm just trying to get my scorecard right before I sign it.
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I wonder where the guy who went to El Paso and murdered 22 brown people got HIS ideas.... I find it FASCINATING that y'all are....today....concerned about violence-inciting political rhetoric. Quite interesting indeed. I wonder why that is?
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