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  1. This is what I was asking for last night, and all I could find was a partial list in the Houston Chronicle. Logic would dictate that someone on the state’s disaster response team would be able to compile and publish a consolidated list of a) the deceased who’ve been identified and whose families have been notified, b) a list those who are known to be missing for BOLO reasons, and c) a list of the number of unidentified bodies.
  2. Yeah, I don't think there's any way of getting beyond the conclusion that the camps likely fucked up. You would think, given the awesome responsibility to take care of 750 children, that someone(s) should've been assigned night duty to make sure the camp was safe at night, watching the gates, being weather aware, guarding the grounds, etc. I'm sure someone had that assignment, but it's clear they were not the right person for the job. As you've reiterated, anyone taking that job seriously should've had the wherewithal to know the terrain, the history of flooding, and what the weather was doing to not have a bunch of kids crammed into low-lying cabins during a flash flood watch/warning. At the same time, everyone -- including those at the RV campsites -- was failed by local and state authorities for not having a warning system in place, along with the DOGE's haphazard hack of NWS funds. Systematic failure all the way down the line.
  3. In one of the articles that someone posted yesterday, there was a comment that the camp had become like a whirlpool of water. With that creek flowing into the river at the campsite, you can easily see how it could become a raging, swirling torrent right there.
  4. One would think that. Around this time last year, I made the permanent move away from Austin, where I’d lived for 28 years, to a rural area. My long-dormant Facebook account has become a lifeline for getting information about what’s happening around town. There are no local TV stations. We do have a handful of local radio stations BUT they're mostly canned iHeartMedia stations that pipe in shitty country or classic rock with a local person only coming on air in the morning or at noon to talk about the happenings at the dry feed store or that someone's dog got loose. The local newspaper? Fuhgeddaboudit. Out here, FB really is treated like some combination of Next Door/Reddit/Xitter/eBay all rolled into one with a few groups people have put together to rant and rave about shit or rumor monger. Still, everyone also turns to it for crises. It's not an exaggeration to say that the site plays a critical role in official city and county communications, which is kinda fucked up. That's why the emergency cellphone system that the state has, or some sort of alarm system, would've been the best way to warn people. Well, that or having one of those NOAA radios out at the camps.
  5. Good catch. I think I've noticed before weird inconsistencies with time stamps on Xitter that might be attributable to what time zone you're in as opposed to the person Xitting. With NPR staff being EDT, they might have fucked that up. Not sure. Not an excuse. But that could be an explanation.
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  7. It's not perfect, but I really enjoyed it. I think there are more seasons with unrelated stories, but I haven't seen them. But that first season is legitimately good.
  8. I'd like something from a more "official" or authoritative source that also includes people who weren't at Camp Mystic.
  9. "NPR has compiled a timeline of when local, state and federal officials posted warnings on social media as well as the timeline of events as presented by local officials." Starts on Wednesday: https://www.npr.org/2025/07/05/nx-s1-5457759/texas-floods-timeline
  10. I was trying to find a centralized list of names for the deceased and those known to be missing to see if I knew anyone. It is peculiar that the information is not published for those who have been identified and their families notified, as it could be valuable, especially for locating the missing in a BOLO way. This is the most comprehensive I came across: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/article/texas-hill-country-floods-people-still-missing-20552813.php
  11. @Dbeasy and anyone else traveling, the link to the TxDOT statewide driving conditions is a great one to keep handy during weather events. I believe DPS and local law enforcement report road closures and hazardous conditions, so it's updated regularly. Zoom in and you'll see exactly where the potential problems are. https://drivetexas.org/
  12. Some things of note about Herr Pfluger:
  13. NYTimes Update: Here’s what we know about some of the Texas flood victims. The flooded Guadalupe River near Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas, on Saturday. The flash flooding on the Guadalupe River in Central Texas has killed at least 35 people, including 14 children. Some two dozen girls from Camp Mystic, an all-girls’ Christian summer camp, are still missing. Rescuers have been searching the river Saturday, and the death toll is expected to rise. Here’s what we know about those who were killed. Sarah Marsh Sarah Marsh, an 8-year-old student at Cherokee Bend Elementary in Mountain Brook, Ala., was one of the campers at Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas. In a statement posted online, Stewart Welch, the mayor of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, confirmed that Sarah was among those who died in the flood and said the city was heartbroken. β€œThis is an unimaginable loss for her family, her school and our entire community,” he wrote. β€œSarah’s passing is a sorrow shared by all of us, and our hearts are with those who knew her and loved her.” In a text message on Saturday, Sarah’s grandmother, Debbie Ford Marsh, said that Sarah’s parents were not able to talk and declined to comment on behalf of the family. Earlier, on Facebook, she posted: β€œWe will always feel blessed to have had this beautiful spunky ray of light in our lives. She will live on in our hearts forever!” Janie Hunt Janie Hunt, 9, of Dallas, died in the flash flooding, her grandmother Margaret Hunt said in an interview. Janie was also attending Camp Mystic. It was her first time there as a camper, and she attended along with six of her cousins, who were safe, Ms. Hunt said. Ms. Hunt said she was in Vermont when she got a call from her daughter, Anne Lindsay Hunt, telling her about the flooding. Janie’s parents drove to Ingram Elementary, the reunification center, where they were told to visit a funeral home and identify their daughter. Janie is the eldest of three children. Bobby and Amanda Martin Bobby Martin, 46, and his wife, Amanda Martin, 44, were among those killed, Mr. Martin’s father, John Keith Martin, told The New York Times. The couple, from Odessa, Texas, were reportedly camping by the Guadalupe River when their R.V. was swept away by the rising floodwaters. The elder Mr. Martin said one his grandchildren and that grandchild’s girlfriend were with the couple and were still missing. β€œHe was an adventurous man, adventurous and outgoing. He had many good friends, because he was a good friend,” John Keith Martin said of his son. β€œHe’s just incredible.” Jane Ragsdale Jane Ragsdale, the director and co-owner of the Heart O’ the Hills summer camp in Kerr County, is among those confirmed dead in the flooding, according to a statement posted to the camp’s website. No campers were residing at the site when the floods hit. β€œWe at the camp are stunned and deeply saddened by Jane’s death,” the statement said. β€œShe embodied the spirit of Heart O’ the Hills and was exactly the type of strong, joyful woman that the camp aimed to develop with the girls entrusted to us each summer.” Ms. Ragsdale, who became the camp director in 1988, started as a camper and later became a counselor.
  14. From the NYTimes: Scenes from Camp Mystic a day after the deadly floods. Flood damage at Camp Mystic, near Hunt, Texas, on Saturday. The gates to enter Camp Mystic, where hundreds of children had been rescued from ravaging floods, were open Saturday afternoon, but reaching the area was a major challenge. The roads were badly damaged, with tree limbs and overturned vehicles everywhere. A half-mile, downhill road to Camp Mystic, a Christian summer camp for girls along the Guadalupe River in Kerr County, Texas, led to a wooden sign on a tree that shows two happy girls jumping into the water. Officials said about 750 campers were there this week, and some two dozen girls remained unaccounted for. Behind the sign, there were remnants of a happy summer. Brick picnic tables and chairs sat empty in a desolate park. Canoes were flipped upside down next to a placid lake. A road leading to cabins and other buildings looked impassable. Here are scenes from Camp Mystic on Saturday: The gates to the camp were open on Saturday afternoon, but reaching it was a major challenge. The roads to the camp were badly damaged, with tree limbs and overturned vehicles everywhere. Rescue crews searching the grounds for missing people near Camp Mystic. A camp mailbox was among the debris. Some two dozen campers remained unaccounted for on Saturday.
  15. Remarkable story about a young woman who was carried 20 MILES downstream and rescued in a tree. https://www.kens5.com/article/news/local/center-point-man-rescues-woman-clinging-to-tree-in-raging-guadalupe-river/273-ecb7e131-c3a5-4c2f-aea0-1d178139e4fa
  16. Bad news for Marble Falls.
  17. Keep this link handy: https://drivetexas.org/
  18. That place crossed my mind yesterday when the updates about the camps getting flooded started coming out, as that's where my troop went in the summer when I was a scout. Never flooded when I was there, but it's pretty crazy that they have the campsite in that deep valley and along that creek.
  19. Thanks for showing a way not to have to click on Xitter. These are digestible clips from the FB link above, showing the full 38 minutes.
  20. This video is almost 38 minutes long, so you might skim through it. But this is just insane -- sorry it's from FB. https://www.facebook.com/LANDbyLINDSEY/videos/1082855037113071/ Edit: A couple of screenshots as a preview
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  22. I’ve been reading this thread all day in short bursts, and it’s heartbreaking to hear that so many innocent lives may have been lostβ€”my sincerest condolences to any of you who may have lost someone or who knows someone who has been. And as a dad who sent my daughter off to be in the hands of strangers in the past for some nice outdoor fun, this has got to rank up there with the worst nightmare. I’m so sorry for anyone who has been affected. There will be plenty of time in the coming days, weeks, or months to point fingers, but right now, can we give that a rest? At the same time, anyone who fucked up here MUST be held accountable. Don’t lose sight of that as things settle down, because without demanding answers, nothing will get fixed. When the mourning is done, put the bastards’ feet to the fire and don’t allow the lazy β€œit wasn't my fault” Uvalde type of excuses let them off the hook...for whatever reason. We are all, together, stuck on this planet and in this state. If leadership failed pathetically, it’s time to get new fucking leaders. In the meantime, remember your humanity and take care of one another. We’re all in this together, and it’s imperative that we must do better, including giving a shit about the suffering hearts of strangers. I know that’s something I could definitely be better at, but I will never forget if this was in any way avoidable.
  23. Indeed
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