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On 12/14/2025 at 6:05 PM, Thatguy said:

So what is your reason for thinking this kid is not going to make it? 

He's not a very good quarterback.  He's started 4 games, vs the #s 16, 18, 27 and 24 overall defenses in the league.  5TD, 6INT, completed 55.7% of his passes (compare to the entire league avg of 64.3% in 2025) and his passer rating is an 80.9 (compare to the entire league avg of 91.2 in 2025).  

On 12/14/2025 at 6:05 PM, Thatguy said:

He had the best numbers coming out of college 

Comparing to the QBs taken before him: 2nd highest ratio for both INT:TD and INT:ATT, 3rd in Passing Yards/Gm, 4th in Yards/Attempt, 4th in Adjusted Yards/Attempt, 6th in Yards/Completion.

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22 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Yea.  Stefanski wants sheduer to suck so that he can get himself fired.  There’s also this:

 

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fully agree that sheduer is the only guy stuck with Jerry jeudy but Sheduer has to shoulder some of this 

And this post right here is why you have a 1-1 post to rep ratio. You are in the Arch thread pointing out every negative around Arch that is the reason for his struggles, and you are correct on some of them. Then you come here and fail to see that Shedeur is in the exact same situations, and fail to give him the same rope you gave Arch. Cleveland has one of the worst offensive lines in the league. They've given up 40 sacks, which is a lot for a team that drops back as little as they do. Outside of Sanders scrambles, they've run the ball for 26, 32, 93, and 51.  It's literally the exact same situation that you were banging the drum for Arch but because it's Sanders, you cannot see the forest for the trees. O-line can't hold up, where is the quick game? The Bears spent the whole day mugging the LOS, where is the screen game? 

Couple that with the fact that it's pretty clear his coach doesn't like him and doesn't want him to succeed. It starts with zero reps with the 1's until they toss him in the game a few weeks ago. Leaking out to the media that he wants out. Somehow Sanders was playing with the wrong wristband most of the first half. 

Despite that the kid is making throws that are more accurate than any of the other quarterbacks that came out of the draft last year. His issue is trying to play hero ball, which is what he had to do at Colorado. If he would trust the process and just throw the ball away he would already be a solid NFL QB. This was one of his interceptions. A ball put perfectly in the only spot it could be put for his WR to make a play and Juedy had it taken away from him. 

 

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

And this post right here is why you have a 1-1 post to rep ratio. 

 

 

 

 

 

My 1:1 post ratio is better than sheduers td to int ratio:

 

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He’s completing 51% of his passes.  If he throws it away anymore he’d be below 50%
 

it’s always someone else’s fault.   Stefanski is sabotaging sheduer to the point where he may even lose his job.  It’s always someone else holding them down.  Sheduer blames his OL while other qbs take the blame.  

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3 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

My 1:1 post ratio is better than sheduers td to int ratio:

 

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He’s completing 51% of his passes.  If he throws it away anymore he’d be below 50%
 

it’s always someone else’s fault.   Stefanski is sabotaging sheduer to the point where he may even lose his job.  It’s always someone else holding them down.  Sheduer blames his OL while other qbs take the blame.  

Lol. Where did Shedeur blame his O-line? Over the course of Ohio State, San Jose, Utep, and Florida, Arch Manning was 55%. Somehow you felt like he would pull out of it. Why is that? And why wouldn't you extend that same faith to the guy who has the record for most accurate passer in college football history? 

I know the answer to these I just wanna hear you say them. 

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10 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Over the course of Ohio State, San Jose, Utep, and Florida, Arch Manning was 55%. Somehow you felt like he would pull out of it. Why is that?

I sure didn’t. Guess I’m a consistent hater. 

Football will be better if Sanders succeeds. 

But it’s Cleveland. Cleveland. 

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Sanders does some good things, but he isn't good enough to act the way he did in college. That's a big reason why he fell to where he did in the draft. He's also careless with the ball, that shit will lose you games. 

That ball he threw to Jeudy was also not great, but he gave his guy a chance to make a play and he didn't.

That being said, I enjoy watching him but I would hate it if he was on a team I cared about.

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1 minute ago, B00M said:

I sure didn’t. Guess I’m a consistent hater. 

Football will be better if Sanders succeeds. 

But it’s Cleveland. Cleveland. 

And that's the thing. Imagine condemning someone for struggling in Cleveland. Lol

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9 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Lol. Where did Shedeur blame his O-line? Over the course of Ohio State, San Jose, Utep, and Florida, Arch Manning was 55%. Somehow you felt like he would pull out of it. Why is that? And why wouldn't you extend that same faith to the guy who has the record for most accurate passer in college football history? 

I know the answer to these I just wanna hear you say them. 

What’s the truth?   I’ve said in this thread sanders will have good games and bad games. 
 

as for Arch, my early posts were “no way he’s this bad right?  He’s been doing this for 17 years of his life.  No way sark would recruit someone that was this bad. “.  So I actually acknowledged arch was playing like shit because he has eyes.  Not sure if you kept watching the rest of the season but arch did turn it around.  I was right. Some of it was Hope. Some of it was faith.  But I also said it was time to make a change if he had a couple more games like utep
 

sanders blamed his OL vs Nebraska 

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48 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Arch seems to have figured it out or certainly played better as the season progressed.  

Undeniably but it sure didn’t look like he was going to figure it out until the 4th quarter against Mississippi State happened. 

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I think we’re making @Thatguy’s point right now that if we genuinely knew what we were watching we would’ve been much more confident in Arch much sooner lol 

Maybe it’s a good time to buy stock in Sanders. I don’t know

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1 hour ago, B00M said:

I think we’re making @Thatguy’s point right now that if we genuinely knew what we were watching we would’ve been much more confident in Arch much sooner lol 

Maybe it’s a good time to buy stock in Sanders. I don’t know

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I think the jury is out on not sheduer and Arch?  Both young guys that will have their ups and downs. I’ve said as much about both. 

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11 hours ago, Atticus said:

That being said, I enjoy watching him but I would hate it if he was on a team I cared about.

Yeah but if that team you cared about was the Browns...

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