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Arch Manning: Doing his best JAG impression to fool scouts


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2 hours ago, deech said:

He absolutely destroys our Offensive Line for half of it.  Calls out Baker and Stroh personally.  Then asks why we spend our unlimited recruiting budget on big and slow in the SEC?

He absolutely destroys our offense philosophy and offense lineman recruiting.  I think he is spot on.  Also interesting that he said Texas’ staff is the least open with him in the SEC which isn’t surprising.  

Posted
3 hours ago, Gordon Shumway said:

That last play is a TE screen.  There werent any reads and if Campbell makes his block its a big play.  They were never going to the RB in the flat. 

yep.  but I will say there is something wrong.  The TE runs past his blockers, if he sits behind his blockers Campbell's guy can't make the play.  Campbell is probably supposed to get upfield and maybe assumes the LB shouldn't be able to get to the TE.

it also could be that Arch is late with the throw. 

The TE was beyond the LOS so we probably get called for lineman downfield if it breaks big.

Posted
2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

People calling for Caldwell have lost their goddamn minds. It is so incomprehensibly stupid and short sighted. Take a deep breath. 

 

 

If they don’t get the offensive line sorted out, it’s going to happen whether anybody wants it to or not

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If they don’t get the offensive line sorted out, it’s going to happen whether anybody wants it to or not

Yeah, because Arch is going to have his liver fractured.

Posted
2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, because Arch is going to have his liver fractured.

We were lucky he didn’t break his collar bone or suffer a shoulder injury on the play where he got hit from behind while twisting to throw to his left. He’s certainly tough 

Posted

At this point it looks like Arch might portal out after the season if he hopes to salvage a potential NFL career. Behind a competent OL, he could flourish someplace like Ole Miss or Tennessee vs being another 7th rounder like Ewers.

Posted
11 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

At this point it looks like Arch might portal out after the season if he hopes to salvage a potential NFL career. Behind a competent OL, he could flourish someplace like Ole Miss or Tennessee vs being another 7th rounder like Ewers.

WTF?  No.  Classic take by you.

Posted
1 hour ago, Josef Pwag said:

He wasn't the biggest issue in the UF game. He is still a massive issue. The end of the game shows the depth of his mental collapse. Multiple times, when we were in a hail-mary situation, he had plenty of time to heave a jump ball to the endzone. He couldn't psychologically pull the trigger. He didn't show balls or courage or anything like that. He showed he is a broken young man. It is really cruel that we will put an obviously unwell person in the mix against OU.

Hi.

You're fucking retarded.

Posted
3 hours ago, BlackCat said:

Arch had an ugly game and is struggling with fairly simple 1st reads. When I watch the film (obv dont have access to the all 22) its clear to me he's not ready to run the offense at a high level. He's just missing too much. However, he really is running for his life. Im now convinced part of the reason he's having the yips and is in his head is because he knows his o line is a complete disaster. Thats a tough realization when you know that means you're capable of getting sacked every single play, because his "first read" becomes pocket awareness and not where to go with the ball. 

He showed some real moxie and playmaking ability against Florida. The raw tools are there. I think his development has been stunted by this horrendous o line, and I think he was significantly overhyped and over ranked. He was a high four star that played against bad competition and was going to need time. But the film speaks for itself:

1- He has no time

2- Hes struggling big time with 1st read coverages

#2 doesnt get fixed until #1 does. He's not super human. 

In the mean time Sark has to use everything at his disposal to relieve the pressure for him, and hes not doing that schematically. He better start or we are going to lose more than we win. 

It's definitely hard to read the field when you're having to play human frogger in the backfield from the second the ball is snapped. Can't look two places at once. I guarantee Lagway wouldn't have done so well if he got even half as much pressure as Arch did.

As for the slow reads, we probably should've expected that more than we did given his inexperience vs high-level opponents. That's pretty common for first-time starters but hype-train rolled too far. Will he fix it? Who knows. But there's a good chance that improves over time.

Posted
4 hours ago, Derka said:

i just spent three years being told that our last qb, a guy who couldn’t throw downfield, couldn’t scramble, couldn’t run, wasn’t accurate, was afraid to get hit, was seeing ghosts every play, was constantly turtling under zero pressure, and who was objectively worse than 80% - 90% of his offensive teammates.

And yet that talentless, immobile quarterback put up 5 TDs on Florida. Meanwhile in Arch's best game, vs MSU, it was 14-6 with 16 seconds left to go in the 3rd quarter. This is the same MSU that Toledo put up 41, and Pig put up 58. They didn't win a single game in conference, and only two games last season. 

 

4 hours ago, Derka said:

we tear down the guy who’s been humble and done everything right and is just now getting his feet wet as the team’s starter.

This is rich coming from you. Lol. Anyone remember this Derka posted below? I do. Check the date. November 12, 2022. 

 

On 11/12/2022 at 10:59 PM, shadow_operative said:

i'm not sure he's made a single throw all season that's been mechanically correct. his footwork is garbage. everything is thrown off balance/off his back foot. it's like he's not getting any coaching. just out there slinging the ball around off his back foot and missing open guys/over throwing open guys with regularity. 

beyond this, tonight he seemed mentally weak. he looked scared and hurt. we were down two fucking touchdowns and the kid looked like his dog had just died and we were down by 70. he looked depressed, like he didn't want to be out there, when we 100% were still in contention to win. the guy needs to humble himself and realize that he doesn't actually know shit about playing QB at a high level. get rid of the stupid ass goofy haircut and beard, start taking yourself seriously, and start studying and practicing like you're a walk on trying to earn a scholarship. the kid has so, so far to go before he's ready to be a major d-1 qb.

 

   Three and a half months in, Derka was dragging his nuts across this dude's face about not only how he played football, but the socioeconomic level this kid was born into. Meanwhile, don't suggest Arch should be further along than he is after getting 2nd string reps for two and a half years. His hypocrisy knows no bounds. 

Posted

Sark tried to fill in the gaps with the portal. He brought in a punter, a place kicker, a tightend and a backup QB with game experience - in case Arch missed a couple of games. He tried to cover all his bases, and get this team to the NC game. There was no way for Sark to know Manning was a head case and would wilt under the pressure like a little girl. I think the whole team would be playing better, incuding the OL, if they had not lost confidence in their QB.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Sark tried to fill in the gaps with the portal. He brought in a punter, a place kicker, a tightend and a backup QB with game experience - in case Arch missed a couple of games. He tried to cover all his bases, and get this team to the NC game. There was no way for Sark to know Manning was a head case and would wilt under the pressure like a little girl. I think the whole team would be playing better, incuding the OL, if they had not lost confidence in their QB.

Then explain the D-line....

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Then explain the D-line....

They were dominant in the Ohio State game. That's an elite defense. They have given up. The team looks like it did when they had Hudson Card or Swoops behind center, they know there is no way to win games if your QB sucks.

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