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On 2/5/2025 at 1:02 PM, HiggyBaby said:

Merry Clayton’s isolated vocal on Gimme Shelter. Wow. 
 

 

 

On 2/5/2025 at 1:09 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Am I right in remembering that she was pregnant for that recording, and miscarried not long afterward?

 

On 2/5/2025 at 2:29 PM, G650 said:

Indeed

 

On 2/5/2025 at 3:27 PM, Deej said:

They called her in to record in the middle of the night. Showed up pregnant, in her pajamas, curlers in her hair, and made that fucking song. 

 

 

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On 5/12/2025 at 11:13 AM, Dennis Taylor said:

 

 

 

 

 

And had a miscarriage.  Sorry for the bummer tot the story.  But, since I have not personal connection to the people involved, but do to the song, what a fucking performance!

 

Next to nearly nothing like it in rock music.  But then again, it came during the 1968--1972 Stones era.  What a great few decades of music we got, and I hope to hell we get something close again.  It's out there.

/hopeful, old man

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12 hours ago, dcbc said:

And had a miscarriage.  Sorry for the bummer tot the story.  But, since I have not personal connection to the people involved, but do to the song, what a fucking performance!

 

Next to nearly nothing like it in rock music.  But then again, it came during the 1968--1972 Stones era.  What a great few decades of music we got, and I hope to hell we get something close again.  It's out there.

/hopeful, old man

The Stones run from ‘68-‘72 was the pinnacle of rock and roll for me.  Every halfway decent rock album since has borrowed something from this window.

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52 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

The Stones run from ‘68-‘72 was the pinnacle of rock and roll for me.  Every halfway decent rock album since has borrowed something from this window.

when you think about it. in that 5 year span you get Stones at peak, Beatles still at peak, Zeppelin driving to the peak,(you can even throw in The Who) and punk rock is starting.  for blues based rock it really is the pinnacle from Berry/Elvis to the culmination of the British Invasion.

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1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

The Stones run from ‘68-‘72 was the pinnacle of rock and roll for me.  Every halfway decent rock album since has borrowed something from this window.

I know that this is conventional wisdom and all, but I've come to admit in my old age that I actually prefer Brian Jones era Stones to Mick Taylor. Zero of my favorite Stones songs have Mick on them excepting All Down the Line. And I say that as a huge Mick Taylor fan. They just lost something when Brian flamed out.

 

Aftermath is probably my favorite Stones album, though Exile certainly has a case. Some Girls is number 3 just to really muddy the waters.

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18 minutes ago, G650 said:

Some Girls is number 3 just to really muddy the waters.

No shaming here.  I love that record.  They showed that even disco could be cool.  "Miss You" and "Beast of Burden" are two of my all-time favorites.  Not just Stones favorites, I'm talking ANY artist.  I even like "Shattered" (bite the Big Apple, don't mind the maggots).

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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No shaming here.  I love that record.  They showed that even disco could be cool.  "Miss You" and "Beast of Burden" are two of my all-time favorites.  Not just Stones favorites, I'm talking ANY artist.  I even like "Shattered" (bite the Big Apple, don't mind the maggots).

Beast of Burden is an all timer, no question.

 

In my mind, Some Girls did two things. One it was a huge return to form, and second showed the versatility. As you say they could even make a song with a disco beat cutting as hell. Plus the album sounded amazing, the had a great run of recording a Pathe Marconi. And it actually have begat what may be the best known Stones song ever, Start Me Up (thanks Windows '95) which was cut during these sessions.

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2 minutes ago, G650 said:

Plus the album sounded amazing, the had a great run of recording a Pathe Marconi. 

Agreed on the recording quality.  I've always been a tiny bit put off by most Stones recordings and performances.  The songwriting more than makes up for those issues, though.  But songs like "Miss You" just slam.

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1 hour ago, G650 said:

I know that this is conventional wisdom and all, but I've come to admit in my old age that I actually prefer Brian Jones era Stones to Mick Taylor. Zero of my favorite Stones songs have Mick on them excepting All Down the Line. And I say that as a huge Mick Taylor fan. They just lost something when Brian flamed out.

 

Aftermath is probably my favorite Stones album, though Exile certainly has a case. Some Girls is number 3 just to really muddy the waters.

I’m sort of opposite.  The older I get the less I care for Brian Jones.  IMO the only thing they lost with Brian Jones was a raging fuckhead who wanted to make Beatles-lite sidebars.

They became the Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World when he exited.

It might be cliche, my top 3 are some order of Exile, Sticky Fingers, and Let It Bleed with Beggar’s barely missing the cut.  Some Girls would round out the Top 5.

Hell, I listen to Black & Blue more than any (real) Brian Jones album.  I know he’s technically on Beggar’s and Let It Bleed, but barely.

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Just now, Al_4_ISU said:

IMO the only thing they lost with Brian Jones was a raging fuckhead who wanted to make Beatles-lite sidebars.

This is pretty absurd to even write given he was the one that steered them away from that. After Satanic Majesties he was the one that said they need to go back to basics.

His talent and vision not only out stripped the others by a big margin, but the songs we all know would not exist without him. His marimba on Under My Thumb makes the song, it was literally dead in the water before that, and the Sitar on Paint It Black is absolute perfection. The recorder on Ruby Tuesday (a song which he actually wrote), the dulcimer on Lady Jane, the harpiscord on Play With Fire. The list is insane without even getting into his guitar work, like the riff for The Last Time or the slide on Little Red Rooster.

He was wildly troubled, as genius tends to be, but his contributions can't be undersold. Can't say if it would been any different if Oldham hadn't frozen him out and bullied him, but regardless his influence even lived on well past him in the Stones. Even at the end he was impacting beyond his playing, the most important instrument in Gimme Shelter is the guiro, it's what takes the song up to the level of greatest rock song of all time, the atmosphere of violence and fear that song instills, and that is directly from Brian Jones. Same thing with the samba beat for Sympathy, his musical sensibility was imprinted on all the rest of the group, that's where all those ideas came from. Probably the single most defining aesthetic of the Stones has been their instrumentation, they have texture none of the other hard rock and blues bands ever did. If you love the 4 album run through Exile, then you love Brian Jones.

 

Even the Stones themselves will tell you this.

 

"He formed the band. He chose the members. He named the band. He chose the music we played. He got us gigs. ... he was very influential, very important, and then slowly lost it and blew it all away." - Bill Wyman

 

He was one of those people who are so beautiful in one way, and such an asshole in another.’ Keith had once said to Brian: ‘You’ll never make thirty, man.’ Sadly, Brian’s reply was simple: 'I know.’

 

A lot of Stones records were built of riffs, and Brian invariably played those riffs.- Glyn Johns

 

 

‘If Keith and Mick were the mind and body of the Stones, Brian was clearly the soul.’ - Rolling Stone

 

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I'm listening to the US version of Out of Our Heads right now, such a hard album. The Last Time back to back with a titanic cover of That's How Strong My Love is.

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2 hours ago, dcar00 said:

when you think about it. in that 5 year span you get Stones at peak, Beatles still at peak, Zeppelin driving to the peak,(you can even throw in The Who) and punk rock is starting.  for blues based rock it really is the pinnacle from Berry/Elvis to the culmination of the British Invasion.

Speaking of blues based rock well...hard as fuck blues anyway, Black Sabbath's first 2 albums were released between February 1970 and January 1971 ( US release).

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