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I had been running really cold over the last year or so but went to Post Oak last week and the cards were there.

Flopped quad 5s and 2 guys went all in ahead of me. KK and JJ.

Oops.

When cards run hot it’s really fun to play.

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Bad beat on a bad beat jackpot (Pokernews):

It was an odds-defying hand most players will never see in their entire lives. R.J. Bergman, 37, lived it first-hand Tuesday afternoon – a gigantic cooler that cost him a bad beat jackpot.

He was at the Casino Del Sol in Tucson, Arizona, mixing it up in some $1-$2 no-limit hold’em cash game. Bergman is a recreational player, visiting the local casinos a few times a year, and playing cash games about twice a month with friends.

Married for nine years, he has a 7-year-old son and has worked at the local YMCA as a program director for 14 years – a job he loves. Along with his local games, Bergman visits Las Vegas about four or five times a year.

“I love playing out there,” he says.

Almost no amount of table time could quite prepare him for the hand that played out Tuesday afternoon at the Del Sol. He had been playing for about an hour after buying into the game for $200. A bit card dead, he had about $165 in chips in front of him.

As the hand began, Bergman peeled back {9-Hearts}{9-Spades} in the small blind. The player under-the-gun raised the action to $8. The player in the hijack position had about $75 in front of him and called. A player on the button with $280 also made the call, as did Bergman.

Amazingly, the flop brought {10-Clubs}{9-Diamonds}{9-Clubs} for quad 9s and he looked to be in great shape. There were a couple of things to consider. He wanted to win a big pot and reel in both players for as much as he could. There was also a bad beat jackpot of $18,000 to consider.

He decided to slow-play his quads and checked. The initial raiser then continued for $15 with all three players calling behind.

The turn brought the {J-Diamonds} and Bergman checked again. The player under-the-gun bet again, this time $25. The hijack player called. However, this time, the player on the button raised to $50. Still feeling fantastic about his prospects, Bergman just called with his quads.

The next player folded and the player in the hijack called. Now with three players remaining, the river card was the {10-Diamonds}. Things looked great for his hand, and Bergman shoved all in for his last $105. If someone caught a full house or flush, he’d get maximum value for his massive hand.

He was wrong.

The player in the hijack called for his last $30 or so. The player on the button called both players’ all-ins and instantly announced: “Quads!”

The button's {10-Hearts}{10-Spades} was a horrible cooler for Bergman, but he recognized how big a situation it was.

“Yes, bad beat! Quads!” he said after tabling his pocket nines, thinking he had just won the biggest part of the bad beat jackpot, which would be $9,000.

The player on the button, however, flipped his cards too, and they all looked down at {K-Diamonds}{Q-Diamonds}.

“I then look over and see the straight flush and my mouth just drops,” Bergman says. “Understandably, everyone at the table was shocked and excited, and started to do the $18,000 math.”

Astonishingly, the straight flush moved Bergman’s hand to third place. Players at the table waited about an hour and a half to get paid for the bad beat jackpot. The player with the quad tens took home $9,000. The player with the straight flush took home $4,500.

Then each of the other seven players, including Bergman, took home $665 each. It was a decent score, but $8,335 less than what he had thought he had won. Bergman was left with a sick feeling.

“The dealer said that he had never seen a jackpot hand with three qualifying hands and that he felt awful for me,” he says.

The hand was still a big frustration even a day later and still leaves him amazed. He posted the crazy tale on Reddit and it received 191 comments by Wednesday afternoon.

“When looking back, all I can do shake my head because the tens were actually drawing dead on the turn,” he says, noting that the only 10 left in the deck, the {10-Diamonds}, gave the other player a straight flush. “They ended up being the bad beat winners, not me who was like a 98 percent favorite. The {K-Diamonds}{Q-Diamonds} was something like .08 percent to go runner-runner. From now until I fold my cards of life, I will look at pocket nines and smile, and then never slow-play quads again.”

Bergman has plans to commemorate the hand by getting the picture of the cards printed on canvas. He wants to hang it in his poker room to remind him “that poker is a funny game and even when it does something like that, you can't wait to play your next hand.”

No doubt Bergman will back at the table soon.

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dude, he still lost only 200 bucks, and made back 665,   thats making money in my book. 

unless you have a reputation for always c-betting a flop no matter what flops, you have to slow play quads when you flop them, otherwise, you might as well stop playing 

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Well, finally broke my winning streak.  Started out the gate full on LAG.  Stole a bunch of pots pots early, but as I tightened up, the poker god turned against me and my premiums were crushed.  Felt hand was AA to a calling station that caught top OTF and two pair OTR.  But on the bright side, went to the craps table afterwards and tried out the recently posted system.  Won back $500 to offset losses to stuck $100 net for the trip.      

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Last few tourneys I played, I have lost AT to AQ all in on AJT5 for 70% of the chips 4 handed, lost QQ to 98s all in pre when he jammed over my 3 bet with zero fold equity, and two weeks ago, I had a ridiculous cash game trip of run bad that was just constant and relentless. That all pales to what just happened to me this weekend at the Winstar River main.

I have had a lot of success in this tourney, finishing 28th in 2008, 1st in 2011, 11th in 2013, and 32nd in 2015 after running KK into AA as a top 4 stack into one of the 3 that covered me. I love the tourney, and look forward to it every year. My favorite activity in life is playing poker tournaments, although the last 4 years have been unmitigated disasters. I don't get to play nearly as much as I would like to.

So I sit down with 25k chips at 50/100 and fold for 25 minutes straight. Literally saw one flop, defending T9 from the BB to a small raise and 2 calls. I then raise KdQs UTG and get 2 calls. KT7ss, I bet one call. Turn Q, I bet, he calls. River 8s. I lead small, he calls, he has KQ also.

Next hand, a good and aggressive player with lots of results who just sat down opens CO to 300, I defend 22 from BB. 723r, I ck call 400. Turn 3 flush draw, I ck he 700, I 2300, he call. River J, I 4800 he jams. Against most of the field I would actually fold, because they just don't have worse. Here, he could maybe jam A3 for value, and could jam missed 45 and missed flush. I tank for 90 seconds, call, and get shown JJ.

Re-enter, and very soon I defend 88 to a raise and call.  865, I check-raise, and the raiser who bet the flop grumblefolds. Next orbit, I open 99 UTG, 2 calls, same guy 3bets to 2100, we all call, so 8400 in the pot.  J97r.  All check to him, he 3200, I 7600, he 18k, I jam, he tanks and asks how much.  It's 4500 more to him into a pot of over 40k. He finally calls and shows AQdd (no diamond on flop).  Turn T, river K.  I had envisioned before the tourney getting a quick double up, and it's funny that I always picture my opponent drawing stone dead in those spots, because if they aren't stone dead, I know what will happen. I knew when he tabled his hand what was going to happen. I knew it.

If he just folds to my raise, I'm sitting with a nice solid 35k stack and going great. As played, I'm 97% to have an awesome 55k stack, which insulates me against coolers and positions me to play fearless, situationally aggressive poker. It would have kind of cancelled out the boat over boat cooler, as I'm in for two buyins, but hey, I have 2+ starting stacks now too.

I then get to go check in to my nonrefundable hotel room that I don't even need anymore.

So two buyins gone in 45 minutes of play. Not only the brutality of the losses, but I don't even get to sit and enjoy the activity of playing before getting buttfucked.  Lose as 95% in hand one, 97% in hand two. About 750-1 for both of them to get there (sure I also lose to a river 3 in hand one, but I just check-fold, as my hand would be worthless). But the parlay is WAY worse than that, because not only do they have to hit, the guy with AQ has to also decide first of all just to spaz out completely at 75/150 for 23k chips. AND, he has to make it 18k over my 7600, instead of going something like 14.5 and then he can fold when I jam.  Although, even with 40k in the pot and only having to call 4500, he STILL wasn't getting the right odds if he saw my hand.

And blah blah it will all even out. Yep, the next 32 times someone decides to put in 150 BB on the flop with no pair no draw, drawing all but dead, in a fucking $2500 main event, I should win!  Except, for many reasons, that will almost surely never happen again in my life.

 

 

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My understanding is that if you are dealt a max payout hand (so Royal on any game, or 4 Aces with 2,3,4 kicker on the Triple Double Bonus I was playing, 5 deuces on deuces wild, etc.) it will just instantly lock up.

I had actually hit 2 royals on this trip already, but they were on a machine where I was playing 10 hands at once, with 10c credits (so $5/spin, just like playing one hand with $1 credits).  Playing that machine smooths out variance, but you can't get a BIG hit unless you get dealt the big hand (Royal is 4000 credits, so "only" $400 at dimes, but if you got dealt it, it would be on all 10 hands so $400 x 10).  

I was up a decent amount, so I decided to take a hundo and fire it on this machine (I had hit quads on it earlier for $250 also) to try and get a good one.  Binked 4 deuces fairly early to get to like 530 on there. Hit the slide pretty quick, then got quads again to get back around 450.  TDB is a super swingy game with top heavy payouts, but that means you can go on the dreadboat quick, which is why I was just firing it with house money.  

Tell myself "OK, cash out when it gets down to 200 and lock up the extra 100", then when I get there think "meh, you're playing to get a big hit, you're only in for 100, cash out at 100", get to 100 and think "meh, you're up for the trip, this is house money, we're trying for a big hit, just play it out".

Couple deals later get dealt Ac Kc Qc Jc 5c. Obviously have to pitch the 5c and throw away the guaranteed $25. I've had a made flush with 4 to a royal maybe 7 or 8 times lifetime, and I always brick with like a 4d, instead of at least redrawing a flush or straight or even a pair.

I didn't pause that long honestly, just kind of expected a brick, hit draw, and instead of hearing the boooop booop booop of adding credits it just locks up, and I simultaneously take in the ROYAL FLUSH header, the beautiful 10c, and the CALL ATTENDANT JACKPOT $4000, and am just shocked. 

Took like 30 minutes to get paid, and while I waited some random dude sat down and started talking to me and of course it ended up with a sob story and him needing some money. I let him down easy but should have said "You think THAT's bad?? OK, so I open pocket nines in early position....."

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so,  speaking of royals.

 

went to vegas last week.  played at MGM,  $1-2. started playing  the night i got there,  them 5a-10a, then 3p-9p,   5a-9a, & 2p-8p.

first 3 sessions I ended up $350 or more each session.  lost $950 in session 4..... then made $675 in session 5.

thought i was the shit.... went into the last day before heading out up roughly $800.  

 

bought into the morning table at $300 (max allowed).  1st hand get dealt   KT  diamonds.  limp  its an unraised flop. 

Pot is either $10-12, cant remember the number of limpers

flop is 9d, Jd, Qx.     First to bet opens at $50.... into a pot of 10 fucking dollars!!!!.  There is a call before me,   I call as well.... dealer with $3k (yes, 3k) SHOVES.   everyone else folds.

I call obviously.

dealer doesnt show his cards.     turn is a King, river is a 10.  I angrily show the useless straight.

dealer flips over..................Ad  3x.

oh my fucking god.   not even the flush draw backdoor catch.  that fucker needed a hard runner runner to win, and nailed it.   found out later that he had been bluffing the flop with huge bets all night.... so no clue why some idiot makes it $50 to play when there was no pot to win.     (yes i know I want that call..... but I never seem to get it and win)

 

rebuy for $300.   dont do much.  get whittled down to $155 when I have A2 of hearts   flop is all hearts.   cant remember the betting but all the money is in on the flop,   I hold and get back up to 330.... yay....

very next hand, I get dealt AA in the BB.  its raised 2 legit times before I even act.     Monster stack that nailed me before makes it $75 pre flop.   I obviously call again.    The early raiser shoves for $200.    Big stack calls that, I repop to $330,  He calls.     tables JT unsuited.    other stack had JJ.

4 flush hits the board, and the monster stack felts us both with the offsuit Jack  flush.   Christ.

 

Rebuy for $300.       get it up to $400 pretty quickly.  Big stack leaves the table.  replaced by an even more annoying fucker trying to get the table changed to a $2-5 table "because its been years since hes played poker and wants to gamble".  No one agrees.      

We play for a bit and this new annoying guy is a whiney bitch, hes already asked for a table change because there isnt enough action on our table (yes there was) ...

I get dealt AJo in EP.  I make it $7.    whiney fuck raises it to $20.  I call. 

flop is As-Ax-Qs.

I bet out 30, and he calls.

turn is 10x . 

I bet out $60....  and he smooth calls.  which honestly worried me, theres a chance hes got a decent ace, or he's flushing.

River is the Ks.  

I angrily slam the table to check.   Cause Im pretty sure I just got fucked.

Then whiney bitch takes no fewer than 90 seconds to act.    I think it was more like 2 mins.

He's muttering about me having played with pocket Q's,  would I have bet the boat.... etc, etc.   

Its just too god damned obvious he's hollywooding.   h'es either got a boat or a flush.

He eventually puts out $140 on the bet-   So yeah thats a boat sized bet.  and I fold the straight face up.

whiney fuck turns over........................... Js-Ts  !!!!!!

Yes Virginia....thats  a fucking royal flush dealt against me.

 

3 hands later, I get dealt AdKx.  Its raised by whiney fuck to $15,  and he gets 4 callers (including me)  flop is  Jd-Kd-3d.   Whiney bets $50, everyone else folds, I call.  turn is a low blank.  Whiney bets out $50 again, and this time I stack and shove for the ~$200 more I have behind.    

He does not instantly call.... he pauses,  and after about 30 seconds, calls.  He doesnt even bother asking to count my chips.    

 

He flips over Qx Td.    so I just need to avoid 6 cards.    9h  hits the river and I am stacked and done for the whole trip.   

 

down $200 or so  plus I got bitchslapped by sports bets as mentioned in the week 2 ncaa thread.

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1 hour ago, TXSooner518 said:

Tell myself "OK, cash out when it gets down to 200 and lock up the extra 100", then when I get there think "meh, you're playing to get a big hit, you're only in for 100, cash out at 100", get to 100 and think "meh, you're up for the trip, this is house money, we're trying for a big hit, just play it out".

Ah yes, the internal debate. We've all been there.

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46 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

Why are we leading 3/4 pot into the preflop raiser when we have AJ on AAQ? I would also definitely 3b AK against someone whining that they want action, but understand that at that point that snakebittenness (that's a word now) has taken over.

I bet out $30 because he wanted action,  and  I was really hoping he had a small ace and was going  to pay off every bet.   it wasnt until the no-hesitation smooth call on the turn that my senses really tingled.  

I had AK and 99 so many fucking times on this trip that I lost track. I never hit a set with the 9's, and  AK only flopped a pair 3 times the whole trip.  First 2 were in the early sessions.   the last hand above was the last time it hit. 

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I bet out $30 because he wanted action,  and  I was really hoping he had a small ace and was going  to pay off every bet.   it wasnt until the no-hesitation smooth call on the turn that my senses really tingled.  
I had AK and 99 so many fucking times on this trip that I lost track. I never hit a set with the 9's, and  AK only flopped a pair 3 times the whole trip.  First 2 were in the early sessions.   the last hand above was the last time it hit. 


If he has an ace, money gets in either way. If he misses or has a small pair he may bet if we check but just fold when we lead 3/4 pot. I would certainly bet if checked to and c-bet as preflop raiser, just think we lose tons of value leading into the raiser here.
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Ended my 3 month hiatus from poker last night. Decided while driving there that I would play super tight and stuck to the plan

Oct 3 - 6 hrs - +$710
1: -$55 ($445)
2: -$110 ($335)
3: +$240 ($575)
4: -$65 ($510)
5: +$450 ($960)
6: +$250 ($1210)

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  • 2 weeks later...

Playing $2/2

Limp in w others w 88.

Flop 887. Guy opens $7 and I call. Others fold. He puts in $5 before turn card is dealt. (He’s just been screwing around for last 30 mins)

7. I call his $5 and he immediately puts in $5 before River is dealt.

7. I raise his $5 to $50 and he snaps w KK

Super Yacht!

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$2/5

 

Young black did joins the table and is pretty spewy first few hands. He then raises UTG to $30 and it folds to me w AcAh on button. I don’t want to push him off so I just call. I’m surprised that both blinds call. $115 in pot

 

Jd Ts 4d. Checks to UTG who makes it $70. I raise to $150. SB (young Asian dude, solid) jams $750. BB folds. UTG calls for his $400.

 

I have $850 behind, so it’s $600 to call and win $1715. What do you do?

 

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12 hours ago, Lurch said:

I fold.

Fuckers show AT (SB) and KJ (UTG). Both thought the other was on flush draw.

Stupid fucking game.

Re-evaluate your read on SB. Check-jamming 150 BB with 2nd pair into a bet and a raise, when the raise is by a solid, tight player is not "solid," it is spew-a-riffic.

3-betting pre is by far better for you, regardless of result, but my guess is that if we 3b pre, SB folds, UTG calls, and then we stack UTG on the flop.

Calling off 150 bigs on the flop with one pair when a player we think is solid jams 150 bigs and another player calls 80 bigs is a good way to lose money, despite this hand. In a standard 1/2 game where we start with $200, sure, not folding.

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23 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

Re-evaluate your read on SB. Check-jamming 150 BB with 2nd pair into a bet and a raise, when the raise is by a solid, tight player is not "solid," it is spew-a-riffic.

3-betting pre is by far better for you, regardless of result, but my guess is that if we 3b pre, SB folds, UTG calls, and then we stack UTG on the flop.

Calling off 150 bigs on the flop with one pair when a player we think is solid jams 150 bigs and another player calls 80 bigs is a good way to lose money, despite this hand. In a standard 1/2 game where we start with $200, sure, not folding.

Exactly.

Without the 3b pre to further help define everyone's ranges, you are left guessing.  You guessed wrong, but it was still a good fold.  Keep playing with the SB - you'll get your money back soon enough.  

 

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Re-evaluate your read on SB. Check-jamming 150 BB with 2nd pair into a bet and a raise, when the raise is by a solid, tight player is not "solid," it is spew-a-riffic.
3-betting pre is by far better for you, regardless of result, but my guess is that if we 3b pre, SB folds, UTG calls, and then we stack UTG on the flop.
Calling off 150 bigs on the flop with one pair when a player we think is solid jams 150 bigs and another player calls 80 bigs is a good way to lose money, despite this hand. In a standard 1/2 game where we start with $200, sure, not folding.


SBs jam was very out of character, but now noted.

In my head I felt like 3bet to $90 was standard and just felt like he’d fold. One problem I have is that I’ve not been 3betting enough so the regs all probably have me pegged at JJ+, AK when I do. I’m going to work in some trash tonight and play them like the top range. A5-2, K5-2, Q5-2, J5-2.

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Exactly.
Without the 3b pre to further help define everyone's ranges, you are left guessing.  You guessed wrong, but it was still a good fold.  Keep playing with the SB - you'll get your money back soon enough.  
 


He’s taken a fair bit from me and usually plays w the $5/10 crew. It was really a baffling play.

One of the other $5/10 guys opened over a straddle to $35. I raised to $75 on button w QQ, all fold and he calls.

T42 rainbow. He check calls my $85.

K. Chk/chk

8. He leads $100 and I call to see his K6o.

I have no idea how these guys do it.
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