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10 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

me before got finale - “ooohh, hello, this looks interesti- god dammit it’s westworld. i forgot aaron paul was gonna do it. shit.”

LOL I had the same reaction... I'm like, "Ooohh... Aaron Paul in a dystopian future world show..? This looks goo.....FUCK ME IT'S WESTWORLD!"

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19 minutes ago, Go Pokes said:

I quit watching this show with 30 minutes left in the S2 finale.  And when I quit, I thought it was 30 minutes left in the series finale.  I don't think I've ever stuck with a show that long only to give up with 30 minutes left.  I just hated every minute I spent watching this show after season 1.  I commend you that are sticking with it.  I may just not be smart enough for this show.  

think i posted it upthread, but the wife and i hung it up after S2 ep 1. we just looked at each other and both said "what the fuck?" then we decided that the story in S1 was great the way it was told out of order and all, but we didn't have it in us to watch an entire season confused AF about shit.

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42 minutes ago, Go Pokes said:

I quit watching this show with 30 minutes left in the S2 finale.  And when I quit, I thought it was 30 minutes left in the series finale.  I don't think I've ever stuck with a show that long only to give up with 30 minutes left.  I just hated every minute I spent watching this show after season 1.  I commend you that are sticking with it.  I may just not be smart enough for this show.  

I kept watching until the end of the Season 2 finale, but I also wanted to turn it off in the middle of the episode.  I was excited about an Aaron Paul show in the trailer last night until I realized it was Westworld.

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3 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

I've lost faith in HBO.  Season 2 was shit.  GOT seasons 6-7 were shit.  It will look amazing but be terrible, like many Terrance Malick films.  

When HBO does something well, they do it really well - Sopranos, Band of Brothers, GoT seasons 1-6, The Wire seasons 1-4, True Detective season 1, The Leftovers, Westworld season 1, Big Little Lies, Rome

HBO also whiffs on a lot of things - True Detective season 2-3, Westworld season 2, The Deuce, The Night Of

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2 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

When HBO does something well, they do it really well - Sopranos, Band of Brothers, GoT seasons 1-6, The Wire seasons 1-4, True Detective season 1, The Leftovers, Westworld season 1, Big Little Lies, Rome

HBO also whiffs on a lot of things - True Detective season 2-3, Westworld season 2, The Deuce, The Night Of

Silicon Valley Season 1-4ish?

Speaking of, why is SV on the GoT final season production schedule of taking 2 years off before it's (presumably) last season?

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4 hours ago, Red Five said:

Don’t think I’ve ever seen a series nosedive like that before. I loved season 1 and I probably won’t watch season 3.

Yep.  When will the producers realize great writing is, and always be the "secret sauce" they are desperately trying to find....especially now.  CGI was cool at first, but now that we are accustomed, great story lines and writing is even more important.  

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1 hour ago, Rougarou said:

Silicon Valley Season 1-4ish?

Speaking of, why is SV on the GoT final season production schedule of taking 2 years off before it's (presumably) last season?

sv had about 2.5 good to great seasons. i don’t really care if/when it comes back.

but yeah, lately these hbo shows are taking over a year off and coming back with 8 eps. 

annoying. 

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17 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

When HBO does something well, they do it really well - Sopranos, Band of Brothers, GoT seasons 1-6, The Wire seasons 1-4, True Detective season 1, The Leftovers, Westworld season 1, Big Little Lies, Rome

HBO also whiffs on a lot of things - True Detective season 2-3, Westworld season 2, The Deuce, The Night Of

No "John from Cincinnati" on the "whiff" list?  :)

Also, I enjoyed TD season 3 and the Deuce. Neither were all-time great HBO shows, but they were worth a watch.

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I loved the movie.

I loved season 1.

I tried to convince myself that I loved season 2 when it aired, but looking back it really was a convoluted shit show that took itself way too seriously,

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I dont get the complaints... You knew its a non linear story based on first season.
They keep the parts hidden until the reveal well and it then ties it together. I was intrigued most of the season. Plus the total mindfuck at the end was amazing from my p.o.v.

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Does give some encouragement.  There seems to be other worlds within our proper civilization.  

Anyway, thanks for the “2020”, HBO.  We kinda figured that.  Would you care to elaborate?   That looks like an awful lot of production design and principal photography for something not coming out for another 12 months.  

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I’ll still defend season 2 - they tried to put on film the idea of being unstuck in time that Vonnegut pioneered in Slaughterhouse 5. Was it the easiest thing in the world to follow? No. Was it what the viewing public wanted? Probably not. Was it confusing? At times, yes. But it was audacious and they tried something hard. And I think they did what they set out to do. 

That said; I’m also glad they don’t seem to be going that route for S3. 

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Good point in the parallel to Vonnegut, but they failed.  Season 2 had three really good standalone episodes (not bottled episodes, just three that were part of the arc that stood out as really great start to finish).  The others were just jumbled crap.  Not that the original movie stands culturally as a source work of multi-generational merit, but everybody from Hulu to HBO to Prime to AMC is realizing that adapting novels/original works into multi-season series is hard.  That part we know.  And then there's the challenge of you don't know how many seasons you'll have, so how do you telegraph your arc/acts/ending?  But the thing that's really becoming obvious is everybody wants to use their story as they exhaust the source material, to become a mirror for what they see wrong in society today. 

It's a bloated social media platform with little regard for the fact that the original author/creator/artist already fucking did that.  And it's your artistic license to adapt that mirror to what you see today, the lens being the point of art to begin with.  But everybody it seems is redundantly copying the same motifs.  The Handmaid's Tale should cover the plight of women in Trump's America.  Sure, that makes sense (though they're not doing it terribly well as of late).  But Westworld is struggling to combine the coming age of AI, with the rising power of the 1% of America, with callbacks to slavery, and now it seems Facism rears its head.  They're not that bright, and neither is their audience.  It should be Groundhog Day with more tits and violence.  

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22 hours ago, Lobo said:

Good point in the parallel to Vonnegut, but they failed.  Season 2 had three really good standalone episodes (not bottled episodes, just three that were part of the arc that stood out as really great start to finish).  The others were just jumbled crap.  Not that the original movie stands culturally as a source work of multi-generational merit, but everybody from Hulu to HBO to Prime to AMC is realizing that adapting novels/original works into multi-season series is hard.  That part we know.  And then there's the challenge of you don't know how many seasons you'll have, so how do you telegraph your arc/acts/ending?  But the thing that's really becoming obvious is everybody wants to use their story as they exhaust the source material, to become a mirror for what they see wrong in society today. 

It's a bloated social media platform with little regard for the fact that the original author/creator/artist already fucking did that.  And it's your artistic license to adapt that mirror to what you see today, the lens being the point of art to begin with.  But everybody it seems is redundantly copying the same motifs.  The Handmaid's Tale should cover the plight of women in Trump's America.  Sure, that makes sense (though they're not doing it terribly well as of late).  But Westworld is struggling to combine the coming age of AI, with the rising power of the 1% of America, with callbacks to slavery, and now it seems Facism rears its head.  They're not that bright, and neither is their audience.  It should be Groundhog Day with more tits and violence.  

Groundhog day doesn't have tits.

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