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Star Trek Discovery: Season 2 - It Got Good. Real Good. (Ep 1 inside)

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I'm not quite ready to subscribe, but holy shit, this season 2 looks fucking awesome.

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Just the addition of Pike makes me want to watch the season.

 

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5 hours ago, Sleep off ugly said:

 No kidding man, just watched the first ep and it was great 

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If they had started season one with this episode, and with Pike as the captain, I would have subbed from the start    Still things that bug me about the series as a whole, but the first episode of this season felt a lot different   

 

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I liked the first season.  Well, about from episode 5 or 6 on.  The 2nd half was real good.

 

So far this season has been off the races from the start...

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Atom, as far as the spoiler tag info- 100%. Also Michael is getting to be a full badass.

Drew, I disagree a bit. It’s been a while but I liked first few eps of season 1 and yeah I agree the last few rocked.

 I’m sure my opinion is really important 

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Do you have 50 minutes to wade through rights and designs and why Discovery is different?

 

Bla bla bla bla bla. Irl shit matters not. Since Mirror Mirror (tos s2e4) all alternate universes are canon in the minds of science fiction savvy trekkers. STD (tee hee hee) is weaving itself into the tos universe with its references and actions real sci fi style.

 

Bty because of an episode of the animated series Trek actually exists in Niven's Known Space Universe and all events in all Trek universes and timelines are controlled by Puppeteers anyway. I for one am waiting for the Kzin to show up on Disco and kick some Klingon ass.

 

Ps. There is a new Man-Kzin Wars book just published. Book 15 of the series.

 

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7 hours ago, kevwun said:

Does netflix or amazon have season 1?

Netflix has the rights outside of the US, and in fact, Netflix is funding a huge amount of the production costs.

It's on DVD, and you can get it through your library system (if they carry movies).  Austin Public Library has it.

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13 hours ago, kevwun said:

Does netflix or amazon have season 1?

And/or wait until the mid season break, use your free trial, binge all of season 1 and first half of 2. 

I liked Trek but I’ll wait and binge season 2’s first half at the break to avoid paying

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OMG that was a hell of an episode.  Old School Trekkies, even the ones who hate Discovery, should love this episode.  Spooky how they transitioned from the Cage/Menagerie scenes to current ones and how much the new Pike looks like the old Pike.  Really good call back.  Loving this season so damn much.

 

Putting something in a spoiler because I think this is how this season/show ends:

I think the Red Angel is obviously Michael Burnham.  Just seems like a tidy way to end her role in this timeline to prevent even a mention of her on future shows like TOS and TNG with Spock. 

 

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People are raving about Anson Mount’s Pike.  I’m in that camp.  Somebody said, if the show runners are sticking to at least some canon, that we have about 5-6 years before Pike ends up in The Chair.  That gives us at least a chance at a Pike/Enterprise season or series.  I would have been hesitant at that thought in the past (too many remakes/reboots), but now I want it   

Also, those of you who haven’t watched it yet, go watch Cage/Menagerie first.  

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If they bring Daniels and the Temporal Cold War into this, shit will be dialed up to 11.  It is feeling like they might be willing to do so.  

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17 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

If they bring Daniels and the Temporal Cold War into this, shit will be dialed up to 11.  It is feeling like they might be willing to do so.  

Hadn't even thought of that...but shit that would turn all this on it's head.

 

And Yeah, Anson Mount has been a surprise of this show so far to me.  I wouldn't care if they spun off his own show with what he does on the Enterprise before Kirk or just keep Discovery with him for another season or 2...he's quickly adding his name to the likes of Kirk and Picard for me.

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OMG that was a hell of an episode.  Old School Trekkies, even the ones who hate Discovery, should love this episode.  Spooky how they transitioned from the Cage/Menagerie scenes to current ones and how much the new Pike looks like the old Pike.  Really good call back.  Loving this season so damn much.
 
Putting something in a spoiler because I think this is how this season/show ends:

I think the Red Angel is obviously Michael Burnham.  Just seems like a tidy way to end her role in this timeline to prevent even a mention of her on future shows like TOS and TNG with Spock. 
 
Trekkies?

Oh please.

Trekers not trekkies. Idoit.

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Love ya Phlegm, but no.  Been a Trekkie my whole life.  Think I'd know.

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If they bring Daniels and the Temporal Cold War into this, shit will be dialed up to 11.  It is feeling like they might be willing to do so.  
The folks doing Discovery seem to be hard core Trekers. I like the fact that they are sprinkling in references to TOS and Enterprise in canon. Cant wait for The Animated series references. Looking forward to seeing a live action Kzin.

And The Red Angel? He is Sam Beckett.

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Love ya Phlegm, but no.  Been a Trekkie my whole life.  Think I'd know.
So you are a wanker.

Trekkies is an insult. A grave insult. Trekkies love Wesley Crusher and Dr Pulaski and as such are lower than a denebian slime devil.

Trekkies are drinkers of sthondat piss.



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1 hour ago, Drew said:

Hadn't even thought of that...but shit that would turn all this on it's head.

And Yeah, Anson Mount has been a surprise of this show so far to me.  I wouldn't care if they spun off his own show with what he does on the Enterprise before Kirk or just keep Discovery with him for another season or 2...he's quickly adding his name to the likes of Kirk and Picard for me.

I think it was Kurtzman who said they would be synced up with original canon by the end of season 2.  

And there are theories that Enterprise has its own timeline due to First Contact.  

And they could tie into the whole “Talos IV = death penalty” (something that always felt a little out of place with the Federation).

It would be a helluva way to make up for the abomination that was the Enterprise finale, and it would build upon, and could wrap up the time war stuff that was never fully resolved in Enterprise.  

More importantly, it could move firmly away from alien-of-the-week and make the series must-watch/binge-worthy rather than “ehhh..I’ll catch up on it this summer”. 

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And a season or two of Enterprise with Pike and Spock would work.  Spock had a respect and admiration for Pike that was never fully shown, or rather explored, in TOS.  And Pike was close to Spock as well.  

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Oh. My. God.

 

Just when I proclaimed last week the best episode they’ve had the go and top it, especially emotionally.

 

 

 

Jesus this show is getting good.

 

 

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^Agree. Pike is killing it this season. He definitely steals the show. It's hard to know who I liked better Lorca or Pike.

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Well the way he acted when Admiral Cornwall shut him down with a compliment was just classic acting.  The Bridge crew's reaction was great as well.

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Pike is easily top three Captains.  

I’m torn on whether they are idiots for not running this in prime time on CBS proper.   

It’s amazing how one character being added can change the dynamics of the show.  

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Damnit.

http://www.treknews.net/2019/03/20/anson-mount-rebecca-romijn-not-returning-for-star-trek-discovery-season-3/

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Anson Mount, who joined the cast of Star Trek: Discovery last year, is set to depart at the culmination of the series’ second season.

Mount, who plays Captain Christopher Pike, has been a standout and a focus of season two, has a strict one-year deal, according to a report on Deadline. Fellow series star, Rebecca Romijn, who plays Number One, is also set to leave following the season two finale later this year.

In January, Mount joked about being unemployed on Twitter, after season two filming had wrapped in Toronto.

 

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God Dammit.  He really became the best part of the show.

 

I completely understand why though.  They can't keep it so concrete in Pike's world with Kirk coming.

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Stayed up way too late.

Amazing season finale.  They are renewed for season three.

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Damnit, they sent Pike/#1/Spock off on the Enterprise, they damn sure better give us a spinoff, because I give no fucks about Discovery minus Pike.

 

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Yeah I hope they listen to the fans and greenlight that...I could watch Pike for a season or two at least.

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On 4/23/2019 at 3:07 PM, Drew said:

Yeah I hope they listen to the fans and greenlight that...I could watch Pike for a season or two at least.

https://comicbook.com/startrek/2019/04/21/star-trek-discovery-captain-pike-spinoff-alex-kurtzman/

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Alex Kurtzman, the producer overseeing CBS’s Star Trek television franchises, tells The Hollywood Reporterthat the fans have been heard and he’s not ruling out the possibility of a spinoff.

“The fans have been heard,” Kurtzman says. “Anything is possible in the world of Trek. I would love to bring back that crew more than anything. It was a huge risk for us. One of the most gratifying things is to see how deeply the fans have embraced Pike, Spock, Number One and the Enterprise. The idea of getting to tell more stories with them would be a delight for all of us.”

Mount himself responded to the fan outcry for a spinoff. "I am humbled and deeply touched by this amount of love," Mount wrote on Facebook. "I have NEVER received such gratitude. Please know that my own gratitude at having been given the opportunity to walk in Captain Pike’s boots is equaled only by that which I feel for the Trek family’s devotion. Seriously, thank you from the bottom of my heart."

 

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Why do you shoot this whole sequence, if you have no intention of taking it to the logical conclusion and spin off for a year or two?

 

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The only criticism I can offer is this show shouldn't be a prequel.  Instead make it a sequel, set 25 years after TNG.  They wouldn't be hamstrung by a need to tie into plotlines from the shows taking place in the future, and would allow for cameos from the good actors in those shows (ie, Stewart, Spiner, Brooks and Wheaton).  Seems to me they chickened out on their attempt at making this show and are now kinda trapped in the fact it's so good.

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On 4/23/2019 at 3:07 PM, Drew said:

Yeah I hope they listen to the fans and greenlight that...I could watch Pike for a season or two at least.

Yeah, they had me fill out a survey a while back, and that was my exact suggestion. My words were something similar to atom's. I don't really care one way or the other for the Discovery crew, I did dig the Pike and Enterprise people though.

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Is season 2 officially over so I can pay for a month of this stupid streaming service and binge it? 

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Is season 2 officially over so I can pay for a month of this stupid streaming service and binge it? 

It's been over.

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Is season 2 officially over so I can pay for a month of this stupid streaming service and binge it? 

I just got an email recently about 1 month free...I'd wait until you get that.  But otherwise one month to binge isn't bad.  Make sure you watch the Short Treks first.  Every one of them leads into an episode or fleshes an episode out at least.

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

They are giving us Pike and Co.

For six shorts.

Here’s hoping this is a trial run for a Pike/Enterprise spinoff.

 

Yeah, as someone who was like "WTF are these Short Treks' about anyways" I'm so glad I watched them. 

 

I'm definitely in for these.

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Just finished season 2 last night, it was so good. Unfortunately I did not know to watch the shorts between season 1 and 2 and it would have helped some (but not required). 

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The only criticism I can offer is this show shouldn't be a prequel.  Instead make it a sequel, set 25 years after TNG.  They wouldn't be hamstrung by a need to tie into plotlines from the shows taking place in the future,

I assume that is what they are going to do with season 3 based on how they left it. 

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I would assume too...at least I hope.

They've never really explored the future past TNG(except for a few 1 off episodes), so freeing themselves from the constraints of the known universe will help.

 

Still want that Pike series.

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2 hours ago, Drew said:

Still want that Pike series.

We are sorta getting that with the three Star Trek Shorts episodes.  I'm hoping that since they are standalone Enterprise-based series, that they will do incredibly well and get turned into a full spin-off.

Shit, it can't be any riskier than anything else they are doing.

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Ok watching it now Bc it’s on Netflix in India and jet lagged fucked me up. This season was incredible 

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