My son's friend voted for Trump... much to the heartbreak of his mother. When he told her she said she couldn't finish their conversation and hung up the phone crying. When they spoke again he gave some bullshit excuse about the economy, but the real reason was that he's 18 (so 14 when Jan 6th happened), plays college baseball so he's been surrounded by MAGA bros his whole life. I like to think he still has a chance, but then again I just got through accusing other people of projecting. I hope my hope isn't wasted.
This is what does it for me. I point to Jan 6th as the biggest watershed moment. I mean, how could anybody vote for him after that? AND... there are hundreds of smaller moments that should have doomed the movement forever. It didn't happen, and it didn't happen because these people we want to see as decent and smart just are not. They are either gullible to the point of stupidity or apathetic to the point of being horrible. Any attempt we make at trying to explain their choices is us just hoping that they could be good people because we care about them more than they care about us. Chances are they are going to let us down.
Yeah, it's always show bullshit that actual boils down "I just can't bring myself to vote Democrat". It's so ingrained in how they perceive themselves they cannot change. The irony is, I've changed my voting habits, but I'm the one that plays identity politics.
This. I have two former coworkers (I'm a teacher). Both boomers. Both claim to be "he's not perfect, but..." category of Trump voter. One was always a white supremacist in hiding and the other wants to be a decent person. The former has embraced taking off the mask and the latter doesn't want to leave her community, so she's accepted a lot of what coworker 1 promotes. Both are equally lost, but for very different reasons.
This is what I don't get. Let's say the Iranian youths do rise up, let's say they are successful, let's say they install a secular government. What makes him think that secular government will be okay with an apartheid state in Israel? Or is it just hoping for a forever war?
Walz should take the call, as long as Trump keep things productive (yeah, right), but the second Trump starts his bullshit the call ends. Let the piece of shit talk to himself for a couple minutes.
This was what I was wondering. It's a shitstorm that nobody should have to navigate, much less someone living in America (liberty and justice for all). Crazy thing is, compared to most Texans, I have a lot of Jewish people that I can have this conversation with, but I also know they each fall anywhere along the spectrum (and what a spectrum it is). I don't know how to even approach that conversation knowing a less than full-throated support of Neyanyahu could make them feel I'm antisemitic (despite decades of friendship that would prove otherwise). I want to let them know I'm here for them even if I'm not here for what Israel is doing.
Who are you afraid of? Is it a specific group of people that you feel threatened by or is it a "it could be anyone, anywhere, anytime" kind of thing? I have the feeling Jews are not alone whatever the answer. I'm sorry this is happening.