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  1. And, it should be noted, it is probably possible for a real administration to bring a lot of Trumpers to justice under the rule of law without resorting to Trump tactics. Even should we "normalize," I don't harbor a lot of hope for Congress getting its shit together sufficiently to close a lot of the loopholes that Trump found and exploited.
  2. Two reasons: fear of alienating the base and fear of retribution.
  3. I think you're conflating the JGG case before Boasberg with this one. SCOTUS in JGG admitted that all of these deportees were entitled to due process, but also said habeas was the exclusive remedy. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a931_2c83.pdf This is a habeas case where it is alleged that he received no formal notice and his wife found he was deported to CECOT by recognizing his photo and tattoos. And not only did he not receive notice, he was barred from removal by an immigration court. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/#entry-57 There are multiple bases for relief in Abrego Garcia. SCOTUS specifically found that his admitted erroneous deportation was sufficient grounds to sustain the district court's order that the government "facilitate and effectuate" his return.
  4. Sweet Jesus. https://x.com/jakelangj6 ETA: it appears that this is not an "organically" Frisco event, but something put together by a Florida rabble rouser.
  5. An adult, obviously. @realgreggym
  6. I'm guessing that's a championship hat shipped to El Salvador after they lost?
  7. Well a big part of that is what tools are available to the lawyer to call bullshit on the government when they do things like rely on some shithead informant. Unlike a criminal case, there isn't a Brady or Giglio burden on the government to produce exculpatory evidence or reveal things destroying the credibility of their informants and witnesses. Nor, do I think, is there much in the way of civil discovery for the defendant's lawyer to test the government's evidence. At some point, Abrego Garcia is probably going to receive due process in a US District court, apparently USDJ Paula Xinis', that is righteously pissed at the government and is also receiving the benefit of a bunch of investigative journalists doing discovery for him for free. But those future deportees are going to receive pretty half-ass civil due process a lot like those pretty shitty Immigration Court opinions I linked above. And the Supreme Court is probably going to be fine with that. And probably any Supreme Court for the last 50-75 years would be ok with it too, not just Chief Johnny and the Sondericht. A lot of what fuggled said. Habeas Corpus may provide a further backstop on half-ass rulings by half-ass immigration judges in a half-ass forum. But if you know anything about the usual habeas petition by a criminal defendant (complicated by the fact that a whole ton of them are bullshit), that's not going to give you much comfort that justice will be done.
  8. Well, that's kind of good to hear. It's kind of amusing to me to hear of younger folks than I talking about white flight, not that it's not still a thing. My parents moved to a great white ISD before segregation was a thing, before the Civil Rights Act, before busing, because my Dad's sister worked as a teacher at the high school during and after the war and told him it was the best school in Dallas. And Dad attended SMU on the GI Bill, and lived at a relative's house near campus. I lived through busing riots in Boston and some lower-profile controversy in Dallas myself. And I think that's what really commenced white flight and a lot of that was of the more purely racially motivated type, rather than the "best schools with homes I can afford type.". One phenomenon that's bizarre to me is how Dallas and Houston, and I guess most (Southern?) cities, seem to abandon suburbs after about a generation or so, moving further out from the city center and leaving a formerly nice suburb to the poors, occasionally to regentrify. None of them seem to become Tarrytowns or Windsor, NW Hills or Preston Hollow, or even Lakewood.
  9. One thing that this does demonstrate is that a US Senator, who, according to Trump has no power in foreign relations in general, or to this specific aspect of foreign relations, can obtain a meeting with both Bukele and Abrego Garcia. That, then, puts the lie to the "I'm the executive, I have exclusive authority here, and I can't do shit, and you, the courts, can't make me do shit." Stage managed or not, Bukele was either granted permission by Trump to do this, or flouted instructions not to do it. Either way, it's interdasting.
  10. That's objectively not true. People were grousing about those tariffs immediately, and about the farm subsidies they provoked later. Granted, it was on a smaller scale than today, but so were the tariffs. The more striking part is that Biden kept some of them in place, when his trade strategy is a lot more rational. And, I find it interesting that none of these post-hoc justifications for Trump's actions come from Trump himself, or even the administration. They're all invented by some outsider to try to justify the madness.
  11. Yeah, ultimately this whole mess is a coalition of kind of previously disenfranchised outliers whose interests are probably only temporarily aligned. There have already been some examples of circular firing squads that may get worse.
  12. And it is going to be so costly. Part of me wants "the left" to go on a similar wEApoNiZation campaign before returning to normalcy, if it ever regains power.
  13. I consider all of those things you mentioned the aftermath, the what are we gonna do now. And, I disagree that the US justice system is or should be designed to serve victims. It serves society broadly, which includes both victims and accused, and the rest of us. Should the justice system take into account the victim? Sure. But I think some of the more recent efforts to do so have over-emphasized victims rights. But, you do have a point that often the discussion of the aftermath focuses too heavily on the accused/perpetrator, to the point that they become quasi-celebrities, and possibly inspiration for other perps. Some of that is inherent to the fact that that is the only thing we can "deal with" on an ongoing basis. Should we remember or celebrate the life of the victim? Sure. I would submit, however, that not all crime victims' lives are worthy of celebration. That they died a tragic, premature death at the hands of someone else doesn't necessarily or automatically make them worthy of celebration society-wide. Note that this comment is of a general nature and not a commentary on Austin Metcalf. Inherent in all of this is the measurement of the value of one human life against another. That's some heavy shit when you think about it.
  14. Well, the collective behavior of Dallas exurbs is a fairly constant topic around here. And a subtext to this thread.
  15. Your economic knowledge vastly surpasses mine. I have been unable to clearly find reportage of exactly what Trump tariffed in his first administration and what exactly the Biden administration retained. I do recall the ag tariffs being highly problematic and also what seems to be relatively targeted Chinese tariffs. But I don't have a clear picture on it anymore.
  16. Funny thing about Frisco, like a lot of the Dallas exurbs. It was originally a farm/rail depot town. So to some degree full of white rurals that were liable to be pretty racist and insular in their thinking. And, of course, home of the "Fightin Coons," which fairly obviously was not intentionally racist (do you really think a bunch of segregationist white rurals would adopt a mascot akin to "Fightin Naggers"?) During its massive expansion, it has attracted a huge influx of pretty diverse people, including a lot of South and East Asians. It's only barely majority white. The associated rise in property values has probably enriched a substantial number of the old-school Frisco'ers, who may not be as progressive as the recent immigrants and broader demographics might indicate. Sometimes that creates a somewhat toxic entrenched power structure, like McKinney and to a lesser extent Plano. And, of course, the rapidly changing demographics fuel things like replacement theory. I don't know if any of that is specifically true with respect to Frisco, but that seems to be the general dynamic of Dallas exurbs, if not exurbs everywhere.
  17. Perhaps I should have said "comparatively rational." I'm not sure I have a huge problem with tariffs on things like EV and solar, where they are more akin to anti-dumping measures. That may ultimately be wrong, economically, but it seems more defensible than what's going on now. As you noted on your original post.
  18. Without diminishing the tragedy of this, the victim is gone and there's nothing anyone can do about that. All there really is to talk about is the aftermath. And the precursors.
  19. It's kind of amusing that certain people on the thread are indulging and repeating every factual rumor while shitting on people discussing the "known facts," and discussing potential legal ramifications on those facts and how more information might influence them. I suppose it was inevitable, as foretold by the opening racially tinged tweetthing Derka posted, that this would devolve into a racial shitshow.
  20. Raises hand. To that end, one thing I have read among the literature on the subject is that those that go to law school tend to be idealistic in one respect or another. Some think they're going to be great civil rights lawyers, or child advocates, or prosecutors, or defense attorneys, or advocates for the injured. And, well they may. But before they ever become great crusaders for rights or whatever, they spend years drafting and responding to discovery, reviewing document discovery, and summarizing depositions and making depo cuts for trials. And working 3000 hours a year to bill 2200. They burn out before they get there. Or, a more practical idealism: they enjoy competing on ideas, prevailing on a motion, a trial, an appeal, when they're in the right, or should be. Or filing a patent on the worlds greatest invention and getting it granted, to be litigated and result in industry wide injunctions and huge damage awards. And, even if any of that actually happens (which it does for most), it is months and years between victories. Because everything takes so damn long. And lots of scut work in between. And then asshole clients, or clients with asshole objectives. Liars and dissemblers everywhere. Bad facts. Stupid judges. Asshole opponents. Most law students have experienced some degree of academic success, where the reward for the work comes on a semester-long time frame, at the longest. That's one of the shorter time-frames for reward in the legal profession. Double or triple or quadruple that for many or most things. The money isn't all its cracked up to be, either for the vast majority of lawyers. And some of the more cynical might say (Jonathan Harr/Jan Schlichtmann/Civil Action) that that idealism and desire to succeed/win comes from a place that covers up feelings of inadequacy or inferiority. It can be quite the toxic stew. /threadjack
  21. What has been said repeatedly is that targeted, temporary tariffs can be useful in a trade strategy. What is kind of strange is that Trump, who's had an incipient hard-on for tariffs most of his life, implemented apparently only rational tariffs in his first administration. Maybe Lighthiser and some of the others kept him between the rails. But that may also have emboldened him into this insanity. Which I am almost 100% sure is motivated almost solely by his desire to eliminate income tax. I'm guessing that at some point in life he came across the fact that the US didn't always have an income tax. And then someone told him that we relied on tariffs to finance the government. And everything after that has been a rationalization in his mind ("ripoff" trade deals, return manufacturing to US, gLoBAliSM!).
  22. True. I'm sitting here thinking about it in terms of my tax rate and it's probably not anywhere close to that.
  23. Yet doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
  24. It wont be obvious to some, but that statement quoted above is not a definition, it's some equally ignorant assclown asking about the usage of "to be reckoned with." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Language/2010_January_22
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