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On 10/6/2020 at 7:30 PM, GhostOfTomJoad said:

By all accounts he's a good guy & even washes dishes at the restaurant he & his wife opened where low income & homeless people can get low cost & free meals.

But he's the undisputed king of schmaltzy lyrics.

It's a tax write-off. Just like his NJ property where he lets someone have a beehive and uses beekeeping as another write-off. He's an untalented commie POS and a tax fraud. 

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On 10/6/2020 at 12:27 AM, jimmyjazz said:

Without a doubt my favorite thing about Bon Jovi is the fact that the keyboard player still thinks this is an awesome hairstyle, bro:

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If I had been one to email Jim Rome back in the day to try to win “Huge Email of the Day”, my email account would be:

davebryansmanperm at EarthLink dot net

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I’ve seen Bon Jovi twice in concert - both at the Erwin Center.

1985 - 7800 Degrees Fahrenheit tour.  Opening act for Ratt.
1987 - Slippery When Wet Tour.  Cinderella opened for BJ.  

Both shows were very good.  Yes, he wrote some cheesy lyrics, but I enjoy Wanted Dead or alive.  

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1 hour ago, boilerhorn said:

I’ve seen Bon Jovi twice in concert - both at the Erwin Center.

1985 - 7800 Degrees Fahrenheit tour.  Opening act for Ratt.
1987 - Slippery When Wet Tour.  Cinderella opened for BJ.  

Both shows were very good.  Yes, he wrote some cheesy lyrics, but I enjoy Wanted Dead or alive.  

I was at both of those shows.  
 

Ratt was underwhelming.  I had high hopes because I liked their music back in the day but Pearcy just didn’t have good stage presence and doesn’t sing great live. 

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Funny, I seem to remember that Bon Jovi outperformed Ratt, but I could not recall why.  You helped my memory.  Pearcy just stood there and sung the words.  Limited movement.  Limited emotion.  

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2 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

I’ve seen Bon Jovi twice in concert - both at the Erwin Center.

1985 - 7800 Degrees Fahrenheit tour.  Opening act for Ratt.
1987 - Slippery When Wet Tour.  Cinderella opened for BJ.  

Both shows were very good.  Yes, he wrote some cheesy lyrics, but I enjoy Wanted Dead or alive.  

I was at the 1987 Erwin Center show.   For the life of me, I don't remember Cinderella opening.

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1 hour ago, boilerhorn said:

Funny, I seem to remember that Bon Jovi outperformed Ratt, but I could not recall why.  You helped my memory.  Pearcy just stood there and sung the words.  Limited movement.  Limited emotion.  

Seeing Ratt live also helped clear up who the shredder was between DeMartini and Crosby.  

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3 hours ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

I was at both of those shows.  
 

Ratt was underwhelming.  I had high hopes because I liked their music back in the day but Pearcy just didn’t have good stage presence and doesn’t sing great live. 

 

He ain't good in the studio, either.

 

1 hour ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

Seeing Ratt live also helped clear up who the shredder was between DeMartini and Crosby.  

 

It was DeMartini, right? But Crosby iirc came up with the riffs, no? Which is why they haven't come up with anything new since he died.

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On 10/27/2020 at 9:33 AM, 66BUFF said:

Journey and REO started out as real rock bands.  Bon jovi was a chick band from day1.

Every time I've seen REO (now Kevin Cronin Band) I've been impressed. They're good live.

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8 hours ago, Paul Wesley said:

They were the ones with spandex and hairspray.  

 

The irony of Cinderella is they were just a Philadelphia bar band that they dressed up like the glammiest glam rockers from the strip. And it sold them a million records lol.

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5 hours ago, elfenix said:

Every time I've seen REO (now Kevin Cronin Band) I've been impressed. They're good live.

You saw REO Speedwagon more than once? On purpose?

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1 hour ago, G650 said:

You saw REO Speedwagon more than once? On purpose?

I have, but both times were mid-to-lare 80s.  They made a business decision around 1984 to focus on cheesy ballads and pop.  There were still some signs of their rock roots in Hi Infidelity and Nine Lives.  I suspect they thought this was a better way to print money.  It may have been, but it was short-lived.  They had some pretty strong songs in Riding the Storm Out, Roll With the Changes, Don't let him Go, Time for me to Fly, etc.  Funny, most of their biggest hits, pre-1981 were stories about breakups.  I've not seen them live recently, but Cronin sounds old (he is) and it's basically just a random assortment musicians with him now.

 

1 hour ago, G650 said:

The irony of Cinderella is they were just a Philadelphia bar band that they dressed up like the glammiest glam rockers from the strip. And it sold them a million records lol.

  That's actually pretty cool.  Very few bar bands have the chops and the songwriting ability to do much more than play in bars.  I read their wikipedia page and had forgotten much of their origin story.  As you note, they were from a suburb of Philly.  I had forgotten that the initial band had split, forming Cinderella and Britny Fox.  Gene Simmons originally tried to get them a record deal, and they decline.  Jon Bon Jovi later saw them and introduced them to his A&R man.  They eventually signed a contract. 

I saw them twice in the 80s, too.  I found them entertaining and some of their songs were catchy.

Funny how a "Bon Jovi sucks" thread has (d)evolved into including REO, Cinderella, Ratt, Britny Fox, and others.  As noted, I found Cinderella to be better performers than Ratt.  Perhaps it was because the singer played guitar, moved around the stage, and raised his arms on occasion (looked up some of their live work to verify :)).

As an example, Tom Keifer has more interaction with the audience in this one song than Pearcy has in an entire show :)

 

 

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3 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

I have, but both times were mid-to-lare 80s.  They made a business decision around 1984 to focus on cheesy ballads and pop.  There were still some signs of their rock roots in Hi Infidelity and Nine Lives.  I suspect they thought this was a better way to print money.  It may have been, but it was short-lived.  They had some pretty strong songs in Riding the Storm Out, Roll With the Changes, Don't let him Go, Time for me to Fly, etc.  Funny, most of their biggest hits, pre-1981 were stories about breakups.  I've not seen them live recently, but Cronin sounds old (he is) and it's basically just a random assortment musicians with him now.

 

  That's actually pretty cool.  Very few bar bands have the chops and the songwriting ability to do much more than play in bars.  I read their wikipedia page and had forgotten much of their origin story.  As you note, they were from a suburb of Philly.  I had forgotten that the initial band had split, forming Cinderella and Britny Fox.  Gene Simmons originally tried to get them a record deal, and they decline.  Jon Bon Jovi later saw them and introduced them to his A&R man.  They eventually signed a contract. 

I saw them twice in the 80s, too.  I found them entertaining and some of their songs were catchy.

Funny how a "Bon Jovi sucks" thread has (d)evolved into including REO, Cinderella, Ratt, Britny Fox, and others.  As noted, I found Cinderella to be better performers than Ratt.  Perhaps it was because the singer played guitar, moved around the stage, and raised his arms on occasion (looked up some of their live work to verify :)).

As an example, Tom Keifer has more interaction with the audience in this one song than Pearcy has in an entire show :)

 

 

 

Yeah, I unironically really like a lot of Cinderella tunes. Tom Kiefer is a pretty talented dude. They also showed more of their blues rock roots on the later releases. The More Things Change is a great song.

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If you grew up in the midwest during a certain timeframe (think "Dazed & Confused" era) it was pretty hard to avoid REO Speedwagon.  They were good and even sometimes great before the great migration to power ballads.  There is no denying Gary Richrath's talent, that guy was a smokin' guitar player who unfortunately decided he liked whiskey more than music.

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3 hours ago, G650 said:

Yeah, I unironically really like a lot of Cinderella tunes. 

Me too.  Keifer wrote some legit riffs/songs, even though the dominant genre at the time was cartoonishly bad.  In the words of Bill Burr, "When I was a kid, you dressed like a girl and sang about the devil.  Now THAT was music."

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