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I’ve talked about this on some other threads and think it’s the model of the future for most schools. No matter what budget you have. There’s a reason most pro teams follow it. Coaches have enough on their plate and can’t play money ball. They also need to outsource the negotiations .
 

 

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On 10/5/2025 at 4:25 PM, Brian Fantana said:

Mainly it's just mocking statsman individually rather than any real jabs at Texas. I'm sure Texas will figure it out whatever mistakes it has made with roster construction sooner rather than later. It's just amusing to us at Tech fans to be "taunted" over our NIL spending when our talent evaluation and roster construction seems to be working as it should and our success rate with transfers is currently very high.

I was interested to learn recently that, at Tech, the coaches are mostly divorced from the talent evaluation process. Obviously they convey certain needs, and are involved in the actual recruiting process (as coaches normally are), but for the most part it seems like talent evaluation and player targeting (HS and portal) is fully done by the GM's office without oversight from the head coach. The coaches seem to be mostly free to just focus on actually coaching football, rather than spending a big chunk of their time focusing on acquisitions. This is probably a big reason (along with our success rate with transfers) that James Blanchard has fended off many attempt to poach him so far.

I would be interested in learning how Texas and other NIL powerhouses go about this, because earlier I asserted/assumed that Tech was following the Texas model but considering what I've learned in the past few months from listening to Tech talking heads, it seems like our approach might be a bit different than others. 

OU has done the same with Jim Nagy and his dept.  OU doesn't have Tech's money but seem to be hitting on a good bit of their buys.  Ain't easy being a poor but it's working ok so far.  Except Ott who definitely still seems injured. 

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2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

OU has done the same with Jim Nagy and his dept.  OU doesn't have Tech's money but seem to be hitting on a good bit of their buys.  Ain't easy being a poor but it's working ok so far.  Except Ott who definitely still seems injured. 

What's the word on Mateer's hand? I heard some dumbass rumor about him quitting football but that seems unsubstantiated.

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19 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

What's the word on Mateer's hand? I heard some dumbass rumor about him quitting football but that seems unsubstantiated.

Haha, he’s not playing this week but odds of playing this week seem a lot greater than quitting football.  

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Keith Inglis: Joey McGuire urges fans to limit tortilla tossing against Kansas

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Texas Tech football head coach Joey McGuire urged fans Monday to embrace a new role during its homecoming game against the University of Kansas at 6:30 p.m. Saturday. After relating situational roles of players on Tech’s roster, McGuire said the role of Red Raider fans needs to extend beyond tortilla tossing – a long-standing tradition that may suffer repercussions this year.

Initial tosses during opening kickoff are acceptable, he said. Under a new conference ruling, anything after will result in penalties and removal of sections. “I really need you guys to understand that it’s not about throwing tortillas,” McGuire said. “Let’s get it out of the way right off the bat.” McGuire’s request comes after all 16 Big 12 athletic directors met in August to reinforce a conference game management policy related to throwing items onto the field.

A 15-1 vote during the meeting cemented that Tech would be subject to consequences for breaking the rule. The single vote not in favor was Tech athletic director Kirby Hocutt. Tech will receive two warnings for throwing items on the field after opening kickoff. Anything after that will result in 15-yard penalties – a point of action McGuire said he wants to limit as the Red Raiders rank No. 3 in most penalties per game.

“We are the most penalized team in the Big 12, and that's on me and our coaching staff and our players,” McGuire said. “We don't need anything to add to it.” The Red Raiders have not been penalized for tortilla-throwing at conference road games against the University of Utah and Houston. Multiple instances beyond the initial kickoff in Houston took place, but game officials did not take any action.

McGuire then followed his tortilla remarks with a new fan motivation to focus on. He said fans should direct their attention to the defense and be disruptive to take the upper hand in having home-field advantage without being penalized.

The fourth-year head coach drew comparisons to his experience on the field during the program’s first away game against Utah – a ranked conference matchup that drew one of the largest crowds in Rice-Eccles Stadium history. “I've never experienced a louder crowd when the defense takes the field,” McGuire said. And I know we have a better fan base. I know that we have a more passionate fan base.”

 

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Tech is the model showing that money is more important than coaching. It's why I'm way more concerned with compiling NIL commitments before OSU hires a new coach. Saw a rumor yesterday that we have an up and coming billionaire who is good friends with Dana Holgorson and might throw his weight behind the roster if we hire him as HC. I'm not entirely thrilled with the idea of Holgy returning as HC but if it comes with a fully funded roster, I'm all for it, because that is what's more important. Let others do some of the HC heavy lifting like roster and locker room management and let him coach offense and bring in a good independent DC to do the same? I'd take that setup over the old model even if it was Saban or some other old legend (yes I know he's not in the running just making a point). 

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I guess I didn't think it was confusing, money buys talent. Point is that McGuire didn't become an elite coach overnight, his players just got a lot better. That's not a knock on him or Tech, it's the new way forward, and I'm hoping my school can find a way to make it happen.

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1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Keith Inglis: Joey McGuire urges fans to limit tortilla tossing against Kansas

 

 

42 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Can't say i disagree with any of that.

 

Wreck em!!!

Agreed. This reminds me of my sophomore year (early 1990s) when the Southwest Conference started penalizing tortillas on the field- I think it started after the 1993 A&M game when the bands got into a fight while passing each other on the field for halftime.

Once the threat of penalties was in place, the student government folks arranged to have bins in the stadium and asked that students put their tortillas in the bins and that they'd be donated to local food banks instead of causing penalties during the game. 

I don't recall if refs enforced the penalties back then (I'm assuming they did) but the main result I recall was that the student government association stationed people along the field to pick up any stray tortillas that landed.

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