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If he was just a one read QB he wouldn’t be getting sacked so much. I think he’s been going through his progressions better this year actually, unfortunately this just highlights his shitty pocket presence even more.

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6 minutes ago, troph said:

He is not a single read QB. He doesn’t always make the right decision but he has a much better grasp of elite defenses than arch does and in fact does go through his progressions. 
 

his limitations are mobility, pocket presence, and the deep ball. But touch, intermediate accuracy and reading defenses he’s way ahead of arch. 

Quinn is 100% single read QB.

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2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

if he gets time he is very very good but yes, any pressure and he bails to the check down quickly.  to be honest I am fine with that this year vs a pick.

I said he has poor pocket presence. That doesn’t mean he’s a one read QB.

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Quinn is 100% single read QB.

Y’all are drinking bleach I’m convinced. 

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1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

If he was just a one read QB he wouldn’t be getting sacked so much. I think he’s been going through his progressions better this year actually, unfortunately this just highlights his shitty pocket presence even more.

OR once he comes off his single read or not schematically designed read he holds the ball because he doesn't know what the fuck to do because he's a single read QB? Yeah I'll go with that

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4 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

If Quinn only throws for 200 yards in all upcoming games and no turnovers, the team can win a championship with that.

There is no chance Texas makes noise in the playoffs, if Quinn throws for 200 yards a game. Debatable that Texas makes the playoffs, if Quinn throws for 200 vs A&M 

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

OR once he comes off his single read or not schematically designed read he holds the ball because he doesn't know what the fuck to do because he's a single read QB? Yeah I'll go with that

You’re dug in, we get it.

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1 minute ago, mwaadeeb said:

Ok what about Florida?

Texas rolls.. Florida offense was just out-matched. I said Ewers played great in that game, but the environment couldn’t have been easier. That isn’t a game where Arch would have been rattled. Almost no pressure and WRs running wide open everywhere 

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1 minute ago, mwaadeeb said:

Ok what about Florida?

You said what if for Arch in those games but we won regardless of QB with Quinn doing those things and playing completely shitty.

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

You’re dug in, we get it.

It's quite literally the definition of single read in what he does.

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Just now, Codaxx said:

Texas rolls.. Florida offense was just out-matched 

So it's not debatable that Arch wins that game when it got close at the end and Quinn threw 5 TDs? Come on.

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

OR once he comes off his single read or not schematically designed read he holds the ball because he doesn't know what the fuck to do because he's a single read QB? Yeah I'll go with that

Except evidence from even yesterday showed you’re wrong. 

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1 minute ago, troph said:

Dude drunk ass Jesse Palmer fucking showed him going to 3rd and 4th reads yesterday at least on 3 occasions. It was plain as day. 

You’re acting like a drunk hyena. 

Haven’t had a sip… yet. Just a lazy Sunday on the couch though.

It’s just ridiculous to pretend that Quinn regularly goes through his reads. Often when he does he missed someone while doing so. All someone has to do is show some sort of blitz and he turns into a check down machine. There doesn’t even have to be actual pressure. 
I don’t know why you want to act like this is new. It’s been a problem the entire season. 

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

JUST BECAUSE YOU DO IT 1 TO 2 TIMES A GAME DOESN'T MAKE YOU NOT A 1 READ QB

Go yell at someone else.  Y’all are fucking crazy. 

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4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

OR once he comes off his single read or not schematically designed read he holds the ball because he doesn't know what the fuck to do because he's a single read QB? Yeah I'll go with that

Ding ding ding. 

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2 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

So it's not debatable that Arch wins that game when it got close at the end and Quinn threw 5 TDs? Come on.

I don’t see that game being close with Arch starting. Again no pressure and receivers running wide open all game. 

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

The crux of it is which QB gives Texas the best chance at a title run this year and nothing else matters. The fact that QE should be better this year than he is is not an option right now. It’s a redshirt freshman with zero big game experience or QE who has won big and has shit the bed. Sark had emphatically made his decision, I agree with him for this year. No doubt arch has a much higher ceiling for his career but he does not have a higher ceiling for this year and against playoff contenders im going to guess sark doesn’t think he’s ready either. 

I've not really been arguing Arch should be the starter so much as counterbalancing what I take to be unchallenged assertions by Quinn advocates. It's a legitimate discussion to be had because the answer as to who should be the starter since the first half of Georgia wasn't straightforward at all. For sure, if a switch to Arch were to be made, it would have been far better to have done so in that game and stick with it to allow him to develop and be ready for the final stretch. It's a much dicier situation at this juncture. As you say, and as I have posted several weeks ago, the decision isn't ours to make anyways.

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6 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

So it's not debatable that Arch wins that game when it got close at the end and Quinn threw 5 TDs? Come on.

There is zero chance Florida could even contend with us in that game even with Owens at QB. Zero offense, zero defense. That had absolutely nothing.

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9 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

There is no chance Texas makes noise in the playoffs, if Quinn throws for 200 yards a game. Debatable that Texas makes the playoffs, if Quinn throws for 200 vs A&M 

You’re wrong, but you’re allowed to be. Turnover free football and our defense is enough

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1 minute ago, sith_horn said:

I've not really been arguing Arch should be the starter so much as counterbalancing what I take to be unchallenged assertions by Quinn advocates. It's a legitimate discussion to be had because the answer as to who should be the starter since the first half of Georgia wasn't straightforward at all. For sure, if a switch to Arch were to be made, it would have been far better to have done so in that game and stick with it to allow him to develop and be ready for the final stretch. It's a much dicier situation at this juncture. As you say, and as I have posted several weeks ago, the decision isn't ours to make anyways.

I’m extremely disappointed in QE’s play this year.  It’s counter balanced by pleasant surprise our defense is so dominant.

I just think QE can play elite and he has before. I simply do not think Arch will play like a seasoned veteran in the playoffs. I truly believe a no turnover QE who throws for 200 is enough to win the playoffs. And I think arch is simply too inexperienced to take the chance on what is our best chance at a title since well last year. 

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1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

You’re wrong, but you’re allowed to be. Turnover free football and our defense is enough

If we had Baxter I’d probably agree. But I don’t think our current backs would be enough to carry the offense to a title even without turnovers. Our offense needs elite QB play to win the title 

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

If we had Baxter I’d probably agree. But I don’t think our current backs would be enough to carry the offense to a title even without turnovers. Our offense needs elite QB play to win the title 

Our only loss was because of turnovers. Take those away that game is a nail biter. Our defense is so fucking legit we don’t need high flying offense we need no turnover 24-27 points. 

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

Our only loss was because of turnovers. Take those away that game is a nail biter. Our defense is so fucking legit we don’t need high flying offense we need no turnover 24-27 points. 

Because turnovers and the worst QB play since Hudson Card vs Arkansas in 2021. That game is the epitome of why we need elite QB play to win a title. We will have to 2-4 games like that game to win a title. 

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15 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Texas rolls.. Florida offense was just out-matched. I said Ewers played great in that game, but the environment couldn’t have been easier. That isn’t a game where Arch would have been rattled. Almost no pressure and WRs running wide open everywhere 

 

10 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I don’t see that game being close with Arch starting. Again no pressure and receivers running wide open all game. 

 

6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

There is zero chance Florida could even contend with us in that game even with Owens at QB. Zero offense, zero defense. That had absolutely nothing.

Ya'll are right, I was thinking Vandy again I guess. I actually wonder if Trey Owens would have one that game too.

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4 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m extremely disappointed in QE’s play this year.  It’s counter balanced by pleasant surprise our defense is so dominant.

I just think QE can play elite and he has before. I simply do not think Arch will play like a seasoned veteran in the playoffs. I truly believe a no turnover QE who throws for 200 is enough to win the playoffs. And I think arch is simply too inexperienced to take the chance on what is our best chance at a title since well last year. 

I love Surly. We have someone arguing Texas loses to Florida if Arch starts and people arguing Texas will win a NC with a QB throwing for 200 yards a game 

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6 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You’re wrong, but you’re allowed to be. Turnover free football and our defense is enough

I’d wager we’d need at least 1 game of 200+.  You realize we get a shit ton of yards after catch, right?

We have now run the freebie TD pass two weeks in a row.  So that’ll be more difficult, but they’ll probably give the Yac a bit.

Keep an eye on Georgia as that was their best offensive output yesterday.

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I love Surly. We have someone arguing Texas loses to Florida if Arch starts and people arguing Texas will win a NC with a QB throwing for 200 yards a game 

No, 200 yards and no INTs or fumbles from Quinn. Do not debate in poor taste by lying

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8 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

I’d wager we’d need at least 1 game of 200+.  You realize we get a shit ton of yards after catch, right?

We have now run the freebie TD pass two weeks in a row.  So that’ll be more difficult, but they’ll probably give the Yac a bit.

Keep an eye on Georgia as that was their best offensive output yesterday.

Just modern football. It’s extremely hard to go a season where someone doesn’t get you. Texas has only played 1 top 20 offense this year by FEI (18 Georgia). To win a title there will be a game the offense needs to score 27 or more. I hope I am wrong about that, because it would be great to watch the defense hold everyone below 17 pts. 

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Because turnovers and the worst QB play since Hudson Card vs Arkansas in 2021. That game is the epitome of why we need elite QB play to win a title. We will have to 2-4 games like that game to win a title. 

Y’all think I don’t acknowledge he played poorly, I mean the whole offense shit the bed too 

I just don’t see a RS Fr playing better. Sorry don’t see it. Sark doesn’t either. 

if you want me to acknowledge QE has regressed I have and will again. 

arch isn’t the answer this year. QE showing up is. 

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41 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

I think us being 9-1 with Arch is totally debatable. He's looked good and he's looked not good. A dumb pick or two on the road against Vandy or Arky and we'd have lost.

I’m not saying that Arch is our underutilized savior, but the opposite could also be true. Maybe Arch hits some passes or makes some play and those games aren’t as close. 
 

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 

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1 minute ago, troph said:

Y’all think I don’t acknowledge he played poorly, I mean the whole offense shit the bed too 

I just don’t see a RS Fr playing better. Sorry don’t see it. Sark doesn’t either. 

if you want me to acknowledge QE has regressed I have and will again. 

arch isn’t the answer this year. QE showing up is. 

Quinn Ewers showing up….the 3 year question. Yeah let’s just pray 

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m extremely disappointed in QE’s play this year.  It’s counter balanced by pleasant surprise our defense is so dominant.

I just think QE can play elite and he has before. I simply do not think Arch will play like a seasoned veteran in the playoffs. I truly believe a no turnover QE who throws for 200 is enough to win the playoffs. And I think arch is simply too inexperienced to take the chance on what is our best chance at a title since well last year. 

I wouldn't call our defense dominant. It's pretty good, but I'd say that it's questionable whether they can hold up against playoff teams if our offense is languishing for several quarters. Arkansas was marching down the field until they fumbled and doing it both passing and running. But hopefully they will continue to improve and peak down the stretch. They are certainly playing well enough for us to win if our offense gets better. And to do that, Quinn simply HAS to do better than he has been. And maybe he will.

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2 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

I’m not saying that Arch is our underutilized savior, but the opposite could also be true. Maybe Arch hits some passes or makes some play and those games aren’t as close. 
 

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 

Fair, which makes it debatable.

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Just modern football. It’s extremely hard to go a season where someone doesn’t get you. Texas has only played 1 top 20 offense this year by FEI (18 Georgia). To win a title there will be a game the offense needs to 27 or more 

I think only Oregon but that may be PTSD from last year in Dallas. 

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14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Because turnovers and the worst QB play since Hudson Card vs Arkansas in 2021. That game is the epitome of why we need elite QB play to win a title. We will have to 2-4 games like that game to win a title. 

It’s not at all actually. Average QB play wins that game. 

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Between the hashes is a little different than throwing over the middle bexause it includes some of the vertical stuff hash stuff. IE, one of the curls we caught for about 15 yards. I just watched it back and counted 1 complete to Golden across the middle where the throw was longer than 5 air yards. I might have missed 1 but that is an insanely low percentage of throws. It’s a problem 

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3 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

I wouldn't call our defense dominant. It's pretty good, but I'd say that it's questionable whether they can hold up against playoff teams if our offense is languishing for several quarters. Arkansas was marching down the field until they fumbled and doing it both passing and running. But hopefully they will continue to improve and peak down the stretch. They are certainly playing well enough for us to win if our offense gets better. And to do that, Quinn simply HAS to do better than he has been. And maybe he will.

The only teams that can mash our D are ones that have massive a massive Oline and can run it straight at you. Frankly that’s the best offensive strategy for Arkansas and in the second half they got a TD and turned it over. Our defense is pretty fucking legit. 

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Just now, troph said:

The only teams that can mash our D are ones that have massive a massive Oline and can run it straight at you. Frankly that’s the best offensive strategy for Arkansas and in the second half they got a TD and turned it over. Our defense is pretty fucking legit. 

Which would be pretty much every team that makes the playoffs except for big 12 or Boise yeah?

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Just modern football. It’s extremely hard to go a season where someone doesn’t get you. Texas has only played 1 top 20 offense this year by FEI (18 Georgia). To win a title there will be a game the offense needs to 27 or more. I hope I am wrong about that, because it would be great to watch the defense hold everyone below 17 pts. 

Yep, very difficult.  There’s no doubt we have a very good defense but for me there are still questions as to exactly how good.  The pig 2nd half approach is how you attack us.  The Alfred Collins fumble was huge because they were driving again.  17 and below would be quite the accomplishment.

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43 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

Why don't you try reading my posts on the subject just a few above yours. As for beating Quinn out in practice, this isn't a fall camp competition situation. And Quinn doesn't have to worry about contact in practice. Football games are played full contact, not 7 on 7.

I don't need to prove to you that your statement was ridiculous. It was and you can accept that or not.

“I don’t need to prove it”…so clearly JAG who doesn’t know Jack shit just like the rest of us. QBs get replaced mid-season all the time if they’re ineffective. If Arch was showing he was going to be more effective than Ewers at getting Texas to the CFP and national championship, he would be QB1.

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