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22 minutes ago, Lidig8r said:

at the 1:06 mark, did he really say, "What you want?"

He did. Not 100% sure it was directed at Manning. Kanu was saying something to Underwood and he said "what you want?" a couple of times. Hard to give Underwood the benefit of the doubt when he sat on the bench for a few minutes and was not engaging with anyone after the game.

Yes, he's immature, but it was not the first game he was outclassed in this year. He looked pretty mediocre against OU, Nebraska, USC, Michigan State, Purdue, and tOSU.

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On 11/29/2025 at 11:55 AM, Thatguy said:

and this is where you always lose me. At this point in his career he isn't better than the guy that was here last year. 

I’m Gonna disagree here.

Im just a layman (no coaching experience at all), but Arch is better right now than Quinn was at this point and will be a higher pick (barring injury).

ETA: I realize that @Thatguy take was way earlier in the season and I’m talking now after the season is over. Also, not anything personal just disagreeing. I personally hope Arch wins the NC next year and shocks us all by coming back for 27.

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10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

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Just now, lilMAC25 said:

I’m Gonna disagree here.

Im just a layman (no coaching experience at all), but Arch is better right now than Quinn was at this point and will be a higher pick (barring injury).

My hope for Quinn is he has a good NFL career because is finally healthy. We never got that version of Quinn at Texas - it was always something. Not knocking him, he was a warrior at times to play through all those injuries

48 minutes ago, Voluminous Banality said:

https://x.com/espn/status/2006509995374829863

There are much better Xs and Os guys here on the board who probably saw all of this in real time, but this was a great play design by Sark and great execution by Arch and the entire offense.

1. First, Arch runs play-action to Clark. Notice how 6, 30, and 9 for Michigan all bite on the play-action.

2. At the same time, Endries motions outside and Livingstone drops in behind him, signaling WR screen and drawing the boundary defenders outside.

3. Number 6 for Michigan recovers and sets contain on Arch.

4. Arch then fakes the outside run, freezing 6, while simultaneously looking at Livingstone, showing WR screen, freezing the field-side defenders. 

5. The left side of the O-line block down to seal the interior defense and create a lane down the center of the field.

6. Arch takes off up the middle and is gone for 60.

That was a play-action, WR screen-fake, outside-run-fake, designed QB draw to the middle of the field and it was designed and executed perfectly.

Yeah but that won't stop the dimwits on this board to demand an Offensive Coordinator because they know more than Sark.

going to be a great off season ...

bowl win and arch coming off a championship type performance

3 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

Yeah but that won't stop the dimwits on this board to demand an Offensive Coordinator because they know more than Sark.

No one has ever questioned his play design so not sure who you’re taking to.

11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

My hope for Quinn is he has a good NFL career because is finally healthy. We never got that version of Quinn at Texas - it was always something. Not knocking him, he was a warrior at times to play through all those injuries

Well, yeah.

I love Quinn. Dude had some of the best wins in decades at Texas and led our most successful seasons since 2009. ZERO hate toward Quinn. That cheap shot hit by the Bama DE changed his career and made him very gun shy (and injury prone, IMO).

11 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I’m Gonna disagree here.

Im just a layman (no coaching experience at all), but Arch is better right now than Quinn was at this point and will be a higher pick (barring injury).

Geezus you guys are always looking to pick a fight. Let's just enjoy Arch's success and argue about it another day.

Just now, Thatguy said:

Geezus you guys are always looking to pick a fight. Let's just enjoy Arch's success and argue about it another day.

Nah, read my edit on the post you quoted.

ETA: we should definitely enjoy Arch’s growth. that is to be celebrated.

Edited by lilMAC25

53 minutes ago, Voluminous Banality said:

https://x.com/espn/status/2006509995374829863

There are much better Xs and Os guys here on the board who probably saw all of this in real time, but this was a great play design by Sark and great execution by Arch and the entire offense.

1. First, Arch runs play-action to Clark. Notice how 6, 30, and 9 for Michigan all bite on the play-action.

2. At the same time, Endries motions outside and Livingstone drops in behind him, signaling WR screen and drawing the boundary defenders outside.

3. Number 6 for Michigan recovers and sets contain on Arch.

4. Arch then fakes the outside run, freezing 6, while simultaneously looking at Livingstone, showing WR screen, freezing the field-side defenders. 

5. The left side of the O-line block down to seal the interior defense and create a lane down the center of the field.

6. Arch takes off up the middle and is gone for 60.

That was a play-action, WR screen-fake, outside-run-fake, designed QB draw to the middle of the field and it was designed and executed perfectly.

Someone mentioned that Sark said this was not a designed run but a triple option RPO that they had never even practiced.

Great play either way.

Just now, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Someone mentioned that Sark said this was not a designed run but a triple option RPO that they had never even practiced.

Great play either way.

Yeah, it looks to have been designed with a legit option, but the line is blocking for Arch to keep it and Arch clearly intends to keep it. He was going all the way.

Edit: It's amazing that every player on the offense executed that so well without having practiced it, Arch in particular, but Clark, Endries, and Livingstone all sold the fakes perfectly as well. Love Goosby's reaction! He gone!

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Just now, Voluminous Banality said:

Yeah, it looks to have been designed with a legit option, but the line is blocking for Arch to keep it and Arch clearly intends to keep it. He was going all the way.

It seems to be designed to be blocked that way no matter who ends up with the ball.

Handoff to Clark? Run blocking.

WR Screen behind LOS? Run blocking is legal.

Arch keeps? Run blocking.

Perfect (PERFECT) play call and the perfect moment and Arch made the perfect read and housed that shit.

1 minute ago, lilMAC25 said:

It seems to be designed to be blocked that way no matter who ends up with the ball.

Handoff to Clark? Run blocking.

WR Screen behind LOS? Run blocking is legal.

Arch keeps? Run blocking.

Perfect (PERFECT) play call and the perfect moment and Arch made the perfect read and housed that shit.

I agree except that the left side of the line appears to be blocking for Arch, not for Clark. Either way, it was an incredibly designed and executed play.

2 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

It seems to be designed to be blocked that way no matter who ends up with the ball.

Handoff to Clark? Run blocking.

WR Screen behind LOS? Run blocking is legal.

Arch keeps? Run blocking.

Perfect (PERFECT) play call and the perfect moment and Arch made the perfect read and housed that shit.

In college the refs give the O-line about 2-3 yards of blocking downfield before they throw the flag. So you can run RPOs like this fully intent on handing it off and still pull it and throw. Or, if you see a lane treat it as a zone read. Michigan was a lot like aggy, aggressive but not technically sound. That's why we ran on them despite their run d prowess.

2 minutes ago, Voluminous Banality said:

I agree except that the left side of the line appears to be blocking for Arch, not for Clark. Either way, it was an incredibly designed and executed play.

I mean, that’s the play design (assuming Sark wasn’t lying in the presser).

Hell, there is a possibility that Arch told the team “I’m keeping this, so block like I am”.

But to me it felt like a ZR (until I watched replay and saw the WR screen set up) that Arch made the right read on and caught UM in cover 0 or fooled them hard enough with the 2 fakes to take safeties out of middle of the field)

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Just now, lilMAC25 said:

I mean, that’s the play design (assuming Sark wasn’t lying in the presser).

Hell, there is a possibility that Arch told the team “I’m keeping this, so block like I am”.

But to me it felt like a ZR (until I watched replay and saw the WR screen set up) that Arch made the right read on and caught UM in cover 0.

You are quite likely right. I'm an amateur when it comes to Xs and Os, but there was plenty in the play for me to appreciate. To my amateur eyes, the left side of the line is clearing defenders for Arch while pushing them right into the path of Clark. This would still be effective, however, if Arch had thrown the WR screen to Livingstone.

the thing that pops into my head when I see a performance like last night is "Let Vince be Vince", which Mack claims credit for, but might have been from GDGD.

I think it's time for Let Arch be Arch. He bought the sports car with his incredible improvement through the year, he should be handed the keys. The only governor put on him should be the amount of physical contact he takes. The season is very long, and he will get knocked up here and there.

This is my transcript of the Arch/Bryce exchange. Bryce could've handled it better, but what would you expect from a teenager who's had people sniffing his farts for him since he was in high school?

Arch: "Hey"

Bryce: "Whachoo want?"

Arch: "Good ball, brother. Good luck to you, bro."

Bryce: "Yessir. Appreciate you."

Arch: "Stay in touch."

Bryce: "Uh yeah (or maybe hell yeah)"

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31 minutes ago, Voluminous Banality said:

You are quite likely right. I'm an amateur when it comes to Xs and Os, but there was plenty in the play for me to appreciate. To my amateur eyes, the left side of the line is clearing defenders for Arch while pushing them right into the path of Clark. This would still be effective, however, if Arch had thrown the WR screen to Livingstone.

I’m also an amateur and honestly I’ve watched VY and Colt’s games tons of time, so that’s probably why my brain said “ZR!”.

But add in what Sark said (triple option) and the fact that WR screen was set up and it appears that the basic play is OL zone blocking to the right, ZR with a keep option or handoff to 6, and the 3 rd option is a Wr Screen if the backside defender (I may have terminology wrong) crashes on Arch.

I’ll need to watch the play a few more times, but off the top of my head, the OL zone blocks right and Arch sees the entire defense is flowing that way. The defender tight to the left of the OL follows Clark (or hesitates enough that it has the same effect) and the next defender left comes upfield but wide of Arch.

IMO, Arch never considered the option to throw WR screen. He saw the gap between the two defenders and took off. The defensive play design took the S out of the play OR the “Fake” (or read by Arch) to Clark caused them to move or hesitate enough to clear the deep middle and Arch is plenty fast.

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