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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

According to PFF Arch’s self-pressure rate is ~11%. That puts him in the 90th percentile for qualified QBs (that’s very good). As a reference Quinn was the 11th most self-pressured among qualified QBs last year. So most of Arch’s pressures are coming from poor protection 

PFF doesn't count time holding the ball. Still have all the winning teams left on the schedule. Let's check back in a bit shall we? 

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  As crazy as this sounds, and despite what Tom Brady has to say, I think everyone is being too easy on Arch, and I understand why, he really does seem like a great kid from a great family. But when you're making 6 million a year, and affecting the careers of dozens of players and coaches, it's time to be a big boy. I didn't appreciate what Arch had to say about his rediculous throw to Jack Endries. "Oh well, I'LL get it to him next time" to paraphrase. That's not the way a great player talks. They say things like "I appologized to the team, it's inexcusable, it can't happen again" And it wouldn't hurt to take a cue from Quinn Ewers and trim that mop on his head, it's time to grow up.

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I think we are probably all overreacting a bit.  Quinn had some pretty ass ache level games in his first year starting, but he at least had Bijan, Worthy and JT.

We don’t have anybody on the roster as good as those 3 currently.  Are we being overly emotional and histrionic fucktards?  I hope that time will tell us that we absolutely are.

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I have rewatched Kentucky second half twice now. The dude just needs to throw BP fastballs to these wide open receivers, not World Series Game 7 fastballs. Seems like everything is a laser trying to hit the guy perfectly in stride. Just complete the damn pass. 

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35 minutes ago, Beer Drinker said:

I have rewatched Kentucky second half twice now.

You've got a stronger stomach than I do.

For safety's sake, please allow the appropriate interval of time between viewing "street-pure" videos of the Texas offense.

On the plus side, though, it's only addictive for the hardest core masochists. 

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We have issues and this board is a beating but if yall want to see castles crumbling go checkout lsu, penn st. , Clemson boards. They have worse offenses and had the same expectations we had. They’re out for blood cause they’re actually losing. Ugly win is better than pretty loss. 

Are there offense really worse than ours?

That’s crazy if so, because ours is bad, bad. The sad thing is, with Swoopes we really didn’t have any talent to help him out. Maybe a running back, don’t remember. But we do have talent this year, WR and TE are better than those years.
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55 minutes ago, TexasExe14 said:


Are there offense really worse than ours?

That’s crazy if so, because ours is bad, bad. The sad thing is, with Swoopes we really didn’t have any talent to help him out. Maybe a running back, don’t remember. But we do have talent this year, WR and TE are better than those years.

Worse was a strong word but inconsistent is more like it. I was just saying there  are a lot of teams besides us that are stinking it up compared to expectations. Winning is better than losing no matter how it looks. If I were to tell you we’ll win the rest of our games 16-13 and look like shit but win a national championship, everyone will take it even how unlikely that would be. Im in the were young and immature on offense side and will get better whether this year or next. And we’ll win all our home games in my mind. 2 rough away games that could go either way depending on what qb we get. 

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1 hour ago, TexasExe14 said:


Are there offense really worse than ours?

That’s crazy if so, because ours is bad, bad. The sad thing is, with Swoopes we really didn’t have any talent to help him out. Maybe a running back, don’t remember. But we do have talent this year, WR and TE are better than those years.

I would take Andrew Beck, Connor Williams, and D Foreman on this offense in a heartbeat. 

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MSN Headline: "Texas’ Arch Manning Receives Unfortunate Designation From ESPN"

Texas’ Arch Manning Receives Unfortunate Designation From ESPN

"but Texas gained just 179 yards against a Wildcats defense that allowed 461 yards to Eastern Michigan in mid-September," he added."

I don't need to know any more than that last sentence to know that our "Offensive Coordinator" should be fired. Hire Eastern Michigan's OC, or their HC. Sark is out of touch. He's lost it. 

We've regressed to Greg Davis football. Before Mack Brown hit town, we had coaches who knew enough about the fundamentals of football that they could take any Texas team and steamroll these bottom feeders - Much like Eastern Mich steamrolled UK. Seems to me that Sark is lost in the Xs and Os - and can't see the big picture.

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1 minute ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

MSN Headline: "Texas’ Arch Manning Receives Unfortunate Designation From ESPN"

Texas’ Arch Manning Receives Unfortunate Designation From ESPN

"but Texas gained just 179 yards against a Wildcats defense that allowed 461 yards to Eastern Michigan in mid-September," he added."

I don't need to know any more than that last sentence to know that our "Offensive Coordinator" should be fired. Hire Eastern Michigan's OC, or their HC. Sark is out of touch. He's lost it. 

We've regressed to Greg Davis football. Before Mack Brown hit town, we had coaches who knew enough about the fundamentals of football that they could take any Texas team and steamroll these bottom feeders - Much like Eastern Mich steamrolled UK. Seems to me that Sark is lost in the Xs and Os - and can't see the big picture.

My worry is Sark is going to be so desperate to prove what an offensive genius he is that vs msst we will do nothing but long bombs, dbl movements, backfield passes, spinning qb screens etc and end up repeating KY game all over again (but worse)

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On 10/21/2025 at 12:43 PM, Codaxx said:

Attacking the interior gaps is the best way to disrupt any offense. Has 0 to do with mobility. There is a huge difference between succeeding and trying. Texas replaced one of the best pass blocking guards in the nation with worn-down speed bump. Center is not quite as dramatic, but still a massive downgrade. You are being willfully ignorant. 

 

On 10/21/2025 at 1:09 PM, Thatguy said:

Dude. Attacking the interior gaps while not rushing past quarterback depth so they dont escape out the sides is and has been standard operating procedure for running quarterbacks all our lives. The LG and the C suck but their numbers are even worse because thats where our opponents are sending the extra bodies. Every opponent from here on out is going to try and keep Arch in the pocket. As they should. Its not rocket science. 

 

On 10/21/2025 at 1:22 PM, Codaxx said:

Defenses have been getting pressure with 4 and with extra bodies. Kentucky was far and away the most aggressive, lets not pretend that is what Texas has been seeing all year. It is not rocket science, but for some reason you dont understand it. You think attacking the left guard is about Arch and not the abortion at LG and Center. If you get a guy coming through A gap the mobility of the QB does not matter. It is the best pressure in football. Your side bar into you want pressure up the middle on mobile Qbs is just ridiculous. 

When someone insults my intelligence, instead of responding with paragraphs of feelings like Derka, I get more focused. Now that I am back in the lab in Texas let's deal with this issue. I told @Codaxx that Kentucky was intentionally attacking Arch from the interior while not rushing the ends past quarterback depth to prevent him from slipping out the sides and throwing on the run. They seemed to be focused on making sure he didn't escape to his right. Now the way you can tell this is simply by watching the effort level of the DE to Arch's right. Let's also take a look at some of the plays Arch missed on and what his pocket looked like. These clips are in game order. 

 

I made reference to this play right after the game and The Film Guy did too(since yall seem to like him). This is an example of how Arch holds the ball. We fake the stretch play and get Arch out on the edge with a levels concept. Arch needs to rip this ball to Wingo on the break and he has a short 3rd down. Instead he turns it down for the TE drag coming behind it. Pay no mind to the plays after that I forgot to cut them out. 

 

 

It's early in the 1st quarter. Arch feels a little pressure and escapes to his right when the DE loses contain by trying to go inside. Pay attention to this for later. Also, in the OU game Arch turns and hits Wisner for a small gain. In this game he turns those down again. 

 

 

RPO game is back! Kentucky fires their nickel and the RPO does a good job of freezing him giving Arch time to let this 9 route fly. Arch underthrows this a little, but this is a good example of why people dislike Wingo. Big time receivers go up and high point this football. Wingo looks like a euro futbol player trying to draw a call. Might as well fall down and hold his ankle. I wish coach would get some of the young receivers some reps because Wingo ain't it. 

 

 

3rd and 6 later in the first qtr. Kentucky is playing Man 2 and Sark wisely has a mesh concept call on. Up front Kentucky tries to stunt the a gaps but we pick it up and Arch has a clean pocket to throw from. But what I want you to notice is look at the D ends and what they are trying to do. The D end to Arch's right rushes to Arch's depth level and just stops. The one on the left is trying to get his Colin Simmons on. This is what it looks like when the scouting report is "Dangerous outside the pocket to his right, but struggles throwing on the move to his left". Anyway, as you all know the Mesh concept worked but we missed the throw. 

 

 

 

1st and 10 and Arch has a nice clean pocket. He throws this ball at the TE's shoes when he has 3 breaking free on the in cut right behind him. Pay attention to the pass rush/ What do you see? Not aggressively trying to get upfield. Rush to the QB's shoulder then stop. 

 

 

1st and 10. Again, in the OU game Arch was dumping this off the Clark who has 10 yards of space. Watch the DE to Arch's right. Clearly spying the QB. Even the DT that shoots the gap stops when he gets to Arch's shoulder. They are clearly trying to make sure they don't let this dude out to his right. 

 

 

This is  good example of Arch holding the ball. The TE is open and looking quickly. Hit him so he can get his head around and possible break a tackle. Instead Arch runs 5 more yards before he throws this ball. 

 

 

 

3rd and 16 here. Kentucky rushes 3 with a spy. Again, pay attention to the DEs here. The DE to Arch's left is free to get upfield like he would any other Saturday. However, the other DE rushes to Arch's shoulder again and stops. They aren't trying to attack Brooks or the center. They just wanna keep this guy from getting out of the pocket and especially to his right. 

 

 

Here is another one for you. 1st and 10 and Sark is in his bag. He has figured out that Kentucky is spying Arch on the right side so he pulls a play out of the archives to put them in conflict. He sends a go route straight up the seam to occupy both safeties. He sends Wisner out in flat, and sends the TE up the right side. Now you have to make a decision. Are you going to continue to spy and leave a man wide open or are you going to turn and run? They choose to spy and we just miss the TE. 

 

 

Another example of how Kentucky was bound and determined to not let Arch out to his right. 3rd and 6 and Kentucky is showing 6 coming at the line to draw their protection calls. At the snap two drop out and they isolate two on Baker by stunting the 3tech DT into the boundary a gap which occupies DJ. The DE to Arch's right fires aggressively upfield, but then the safety replaces him as the contain man leaving Arch nowhere to slip out to. But according to a certain poster here this isn't what Kentucky was doing when it clearly was. 

 

 

Center gets beat here but at least as he was falling down he took out the stunting DE trying to loop around to the inside. Arch steps up in the pocket and throws behind Livingstone. Kentucky rushes 4 while playing zone behind it to keep eyes on the quarterback. 

 

 

3rd and 10 and Kentucky brings 6. They bring 4 on the right side because they don't want any lanes for him to escape to that side. That said the tight end is open immediately on a 5 yard drag. As soon as you see the blitz you gotta dump that off and hope your guy can make a play and pick up the 1st. 

 

 

Kentucky showed 5 possibly 6 coming. I am sure Texas called their protection to account for the end that dropped out. Then the DT fired into the B gap to occupy Brooks(who didn't see the end drop out and though that was his guy) and they brought a rusher through the a gap. Well schemed. Did we notice that the backside rusher gets to shoulder depth and looks around his blocker's shoulder? Yep. Regardless, we still got the ball off before getting hit but missed it high. If we hit on this this play has a chance to get housed if we can make that safety miss in the open field. 

 

 

Kentucky brings 4 and we pick it up nicely but we miss Wingo  pretty bad here. 

 

 

And just for comparison sake this is earlier this year. This is what they look like rushing the passer on the backside when they are not trying to contain a running QB. But what do I know? This is likely going to be the blueprint from here forward unless ole buddy can prove he can play from the pocket. 

 

 

 

And now you guys can have this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

I think we are probably all overreacting a bit.  Quinn had some pretty ass ache level games in his first year starting, but he at least had Bijan, Worthy and JT.

We don’t have anybody on the roster as good as those 3 currently.  Are we being overly emotional and histrionic fucktards?  I hope that time will tell us that we absolutely are.

The thing is, we actually do have guys like Lockett and Townsend. RB is a question mark, but we do have players, but Sark refuses to use his undeclassmen to help with winning. 

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11 hours ago, Codaxx said:

I would take Andrew Beck, Connor Williams, and D Foreman on this offense in a heartbeat. 

Comedy Central GIF by The Jim Jefferies Show
I’d fucking murder half this thread to get Foreman in our RB room

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For the record I said only in the other thread that something else is going on because you went all "Golden isn't that good".

Fantastic breakdown of what the struggles are and Arch holding too long. 

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