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3 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

I think you're missing the point of my questions, so I'll ask again.   1. when we talk about federal funding to states as we are discussing here, is this money into the state government or individuals pockets.  2. if it's into individuals pockets how do you know it's republican voters pockets? (when they apply for assistance, do they have to claim a political party?)

You’re right. In the states with a majority voting republican it’s only the democrats there that are receiving governmental funding. 

Thanks for pointing that out for us. 

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Oh no, I see clearly the point of your questions.  Good day. 

Thank you.  it only took me 5-6 times to explain it to the class.   I think many here are making assumptions based on a biases..not facts

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2 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

or maybe, just maybe the republican voters in that state DON'T want the Federal government involved in their state's activities, budgets, priorities, etc...  is that possible?

Sure it’s possible. And then when when they realize they’ve cut off their noses to spite their faces we all will revel in the schadenfreude. 

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Thank you.  it only took me 5-6 times to explain it to the class.   I think many here are making assumptions based on a biases..not facts

But you haven’t presented any facts.

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An outlyer. And you all know I have no problems discussing with Ana.

NM. It is a Dem state, lots of social assistance. But it also has Los Alamos. The budget of DOE there is pretty big. Is there a map that shows the benefits of Fed assistance to states taking programs out?

Just wondering. I know DOD really takes flack from localities when they want to Brac a base. Why?

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2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

You’re right. In the states with a majority voting republican it’s only the democrats there that are receiving governmental funding. 

Thanks for pointing that out for us. 

I didn't say that, but your generalization that republican voters are exclusively reaping the benefits of federal funding while subsequently voting against those just hasn't been proven... But let's play in your universe a minute, let's say that's true..that they ARE getting all this money, yet voting to push it away, shouldn't that be respected?  That they desire to be self sufficient?   So worst case scenario, in your universe is that republicans are currently getting handouts that they no longer want (so are voting against)?

3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

But you haven’t presented any facts.

Sure I have, as much if not more than anybody else here.  

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4 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Sure it’s possible. And then when when they realize they’ve cut off their noses to spite their faces we all will revel in the schadenfreude. 

So you do respect their desire to reject government hand outs?   I'm really confused why you would demonize somebody who doesn't want to take government assistance?

 

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

I didn't say that, but your generalization that republican voters are exclusively reaping the benefits of federal funding while subsequently voting against those just hasn't been proven... But let's play in your universe a minute, let's say that's true..that they ARE getting all this money, yet voting to push it away, shouldn't that be respected?  That they desire to be self sufficient?   So worst case scenario, in your universe is that republicans are currently getting handouts that they no longer want (so are voting against)?

Sure I have, as much if not more than anybody else here.  

I made no such generalization. Indeed I suggested that you were implying the opposite. 
 

Reading is hard. 

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

So you do respect their desire to reject government hand outs?   I'm really confused why you would demonize somebody who doesn't want to take government assistance?

 

But they do want those things. That’s why they are on social media complaining that theirs was, or will be, taken away. It wasn’t supposed to happen to THEM.  Plenty of evidence on the leopards thread. 

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3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I am kinda surprised at OK and NV. What am I missing about RI?

Moslty active personnel in OK and NV I think.

RI, well it is poor as shit, small population and 1 or 2 DOD programs.

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

So you do respect their desire to reject government hand outs?   I'm really confused why you would demonize somebody who doesn't want to take government assistance?

 

I’m not demonizing anyone. But when members of the LEF party get their faces eaten by leopards I don’t shed any tears. 

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

But they do want those things. That’s why they are on social media complaining that theirs was, or will be, taken away. It wasn’t supposed to happen to THEM.  Plenty of evidence on the leopards thread. 

so wait, in your mind these people both want these things yet are voting against these things at the same time?  Why would they do that?

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Just now, DDD Dad said:

I’m not demonizing anyone. But when members of the LEF party get their faces eaten by leopards I don’t shed any tears. 

got it, so you would root against, or relish in the pain of your fellow countrymen because they didn't vote the way you wanted them to?

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

so wait, in your mind these people both want these things yet are voting against these things at the same time?  Why would they do that?

Well now you, I think unintentionally, get to the crux of the situation. 

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Well now you, I think unintentionally, get to the crux of the situation. 

got it.  so you are smarter than people who vote differently than you?  You have it all figured out and if votes don't vote the way you do, it's because they've been duped and don't understand?

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

got it.  so you are smarter than people who vote differently than you?  You have it all figured out and if votes don't vote the way you do, it's because they've been duped and don't understand?

I’m smart enough to not bitch when I get what I voted for.  

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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

Big tent nazism

interesting. I always thought Nazism pushed away organized religion because they wanted to be the moral leader for their constituents...didn't want the influence of any 'authority' higher than the reich .   Am I remembering it wrong?

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2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Absolutely 

We are smarter than people who vote for fascists 

Got it.   And do fascists usually try to shrink the government, it's budget and it's global influence?

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

interesting. I always thought Nazism pushed away organized religion because they wanted to be the moral leader for their constituents...didn't want the influence of any 'authority' higher than the reich .   Am I remembering it wrong?

They used it. They were quite chummy with the Vatican and the Catholics in Germany.

 

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

interesting. I always thought Nazism pushed away organized religion because they wanted to be the moral leader for their constituents...didn't want the influence of any 'authority' higher than the reich .   Am I remembering it wrong?

It’s a play on words not an argument. You said “tenant” of nazism

 

you wouldn’t by any chance be a Realtor (tm) would you?

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2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I’m smart enough to not bitch when I get what I voted for.  

Got it.  and who is bitching?  I always thought voter satisfaction and the 'loyalty of his base' was the strength of Donald Trump, is it not?

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Got it.  and who is bitching?  I always thought voter satisfaction and the 'loyalty of his base' was the strength of Donald Trump, is it not?

Got it. 

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Got it.   And do fascists usually try to shrink the government, its budget and its global influence?

Fascists pick favorites to run private industry in a way that benefits the state. Where do you get the idea anyone is seriously reducing the federal budget?

our loss of global influence is proof Putin is directing foreign policy. That has nothing to do with whether trump is a fascist authoritarian 

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2 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

Got it.  and who is bitching?  I always thought voter satisfaction and the 'loyalty of his base' was the strength of Donald Trump, is it not?

You are tedious and uninteresting. 

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2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

It’s a play on words not an argument. You said “tenant” of nazism

 

you wouldn’t by any chance be a Realtor (tm) would you?

I am not.  It's just funny that you tie Christianity to Nazism, when it was the Nazi party itself that tried to discourage organized religion.   Seems like a stretch to me to tie to 2 together.

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3 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

Got it.  and who is bitching?  I always thought voter satisfaction and the 'loyalty of his base' was the strength of Donald Trump, is it not?

Here let me help you on the journey to purgatorio.

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2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Got it. 

It just seems to me like you are trying to construct a justification for your biases and you're trying to assume some moral high ground over your fellow citizens.

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

I am not.  It's just funny that you tie Christianity to Nazism, when it was the Nazi party itself that tried to discourage organized religion.   Seems like a stretch to me to tie to 2 together.

But it didn't. There were clergy in the military ranks. I won't bring up Gott mit Uns on SS belt buckles and such.

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Just now, cactusflinthead said:

Here let me help you on the journey to purgatorio.

So you don't want to hear opposing view points huh?   Always the sign of an enlightened person...keep that bubble nice and thick

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

I am not.  It's just funny that you tie Christianity to Nazism, when it was the Nazi party itself that tried to discourage organized religion.   Seems like a stretch to me to tie to 2 together.

I’m not tying Christianity to nazism. I’m making fun of you for not knowing the difference between tenant and tenet 

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

I’m not tying Christianity to nazism. I’m making fun of you for not knowing the difference between tenant and tenet 

ah, the spell check police.    Always the most convincing person in the room.

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

So you don't want to hear opposing view points huh?   Always the sign of an enlightened person...keep that bubble nice and thick

Stupid and poorly thought out responses are a beating. I avoid when possible. Be better

Just now, RockwallJim said:

ah, the spell check police.    Always the most convincing person in the room.

That wasn’t a typo

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1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

But it didn't. There were clergy in the military ranks. I won't bring up Gott mit Uns on SS belt buckles and such.

There are also Muslims in the US military ranks.  would it be appropriate to say the US military is build on a foundation of Islam?

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5 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Fascists pick favorites to run private industry in a way that benefits the state. Where do you get the idea anyone is seriously reducing the federal budget?

our loss of global influence is proof Putin is directing foreign policy. That has nothing to do with whether trump is a fascist authoritarian 

Fascists believe in private industry?   Interesting..so in your world, fascists believe in outsourcing government functions?   Can you name any examples of that in history?

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

There are also Muslims in the US military ranks.  would it be appropriate to say the US military is build on a foundation of Islam?

Yeah, fuck off.

How the fuck do these newbies get into the CR sooooo fast???? 

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Just now, InkaUtexas said:

Yeah, fuck off.

How the fuck do these newbies get into the CR sooooo fast???? 

Ah, so anybody who questions you to think about, or re-evaluate a position of yours should f--k off?  Very intelligent

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Fascists believe in private industry?   Interesting..so in your world, fascists believe in outsourcing government functions?   Can you name any examples of that in history?

manufacture and delivery of Zyklon B.

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Fascists believe in private industry?   Interesting..so in your world, fascists believe in outsourcing government functions?   Can you name any examples of that in history?

You’re not going to be here long enough to bother with but think about Hitler’s Germany and what corporations and their leaders were cozy with him. Maybe it will make sense to one of your future handles 

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4 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

ah, the spell check police.    Always the most convincing person in the room.

If you really wanted to stick around, you wouldn't be such a cock.

But I suspect you never wanted to stick around.

You must be fun at parties.

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5 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

ah, the spell check police.    Always the most convincing person in the room.

You know if you honestly engaged instead of trolling and “just asking questions” you might not be getting negged into oblivion. 

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Ah, so anybody who questions you to think about, or re-evaluate a position of yours should f--k off?  Very intelligent

Yeah. Fuck  off bitchy ass. That better? Your feeling hurt? awwwww...

Just now, cactusflinthead said:

Keep talking jackass. 25 more to get 

on 25? Let me see...

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

You’re not going to be here long enough to bother with but think about Hitler’s Germany and what corporations and their leaders were cozy with him. Maybe it will make sense to one of your future handles 

Got it.  I know it's always been well known that Dictators like to outsource things to private corporations.   They also like to cede decisions to lower governmental levels too right?

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