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20 hours ago, Storm the Field said:

Man, I hate when I get sick or tweak something or go on a long vacation and miss a full week or more of workouts. Feels like the first 2 weeks back in the gym afterwards are just getting back to where you were. 

Sack used to always be like "I still do bodyweight exercises hen I'm on vacation"

Mother fucker, I'm on VACATION - I am not going to do an hour of body weight exercises when I should be drunk by the pool or out exploring some European city.  I'd rather just ramp up slowly that first week back at the gym after vacation because my body (and mind) got some rest.

I have more issues after being sick or hurt - being sick, it's physically getting strength back, and hurt, it's mental

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22 minutes ago, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:

Have we talked peptides here for the olds?
Hearing a lot of chatter about BPC157 and sermorelin.

I’ve got a gal that’s talking me up on a muscle and work out recovery one. I’m probably gonna do it, I’m tired of being sore all the time. I’ll find out which one, but she quoted $750 for 3 months.  

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Just now, scramblyn said:

I’ll find out which one, but she quoted $750 for 3 months.  

No, absolutely not. That's up there with the dumbest snake oil shit I've heard all year.

Don't ever talk to that person again.

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On 10/21/2025 at 12:00 PM, Storm the Field said:

Man, I hate when I get sick 

Fucking hell this is me right now.  Late last week I had a pesky head cold that was all above the neck, so I stuck to my workout schedule no problem.  On Sunday it started to move to my chest and has dropped my energy to about 85%.  Not enough to keep me from work, but I don't want to prolong it or make it worse by working out.  So I'm on my fourth straight day away from the gym.  I know I shouldn't worry about that, but for whatever reason in my 50s I get more anxious if I spend any appreciable time away from the gym.

This or other threads may have touched on this before, but what are your rules of thumb for working out with a cold?  

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I’ve been riding my bike in my office on one of those stationary bike stands. Wife was in NYC on a work trip and did a taping of a peloton class, decided we needed a peloton, so now I’m day 3 of 20 minute pop punk rides

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12 hours ago, South Austin said:

Fucking hell this is me right now.  Late last week I had a pesky head cold that was all above the neck, so I stuck to my workout schedule no problem.  On Sunday it started to move to my chest and has dropped my energy to about 85%.  Not enough to keep me from work, but I don't want to prolong it or make it worse by working out.  So I'm on my fourth straight day away from the gym.  I know I shouldn't worry about that, but for whatever reason in my 50s I get more anxious if I spend any appreciable time away from the gym.

This or other threads may have touched on this before, but what are your rules of thumb for working out with a cold?  

Assuming you don’t overdo it, I don’t think it would hurt and it may even help. 

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Good times, ugh…

https://www.consumerreports.org/lead/protein-powders-and-shakes-contain-high-levels-of-lead-a4206364640/
 

ours is 1 3/4 per day limit to avoid lead beyond CA levels, which are admittedly very stringent. Muscle tech shows no detectable lead, pricier but I think we will switch from optimum nutrition whey protein to muscle tech.

everyone should check their brand out and make a decision. 

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17 minutes ago, Parliament said:

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Even cutting it to a third to get a more standard 20 g protein/serving that's 500 cal.  

I was on their website and found diff products with reasonable calorie counts but it was late I might double check. I just need a simple whey product, no sugar no sugar alcohols least amount of processed bullshit. Optimum Nutrition whey powder was mine it’s ok but fuck that I want no lead in my health products.

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36 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:

Surprise surprise, not everything is as it seems, ain’t that right sack?



https://cen.acs.org/food/food-ingredients/scientists-found-lead-protein-powders/103/web/2025/10

The consumer reports article I linked has nice visuals by each brand and protect telling you how bad or good it is. Highly recommend a scroll. It’s how I found mine was “okay” and “safe” for 1 3/4 servings per day. Fuck that noise.

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For those with any concern about the lead reports, Dymatize is one of the protein powders with a "non-detect" amount of lead.  I've been taking it for years, because it's been known to be one of "cleaner" powders with relatively fewer fillers.  

 

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56 minutes ago, South Austin said:

For those with any concern about the lead reports, Dymatize is one of the protein powders with a "non-detect" amount of lead.  I've been taking it for years, because it's been known to be one of "cleaner" powders with relatively fewer fillers.  

 

I would but I think it has artificial sweetners. but if that's not a concern, its def higher quality and is recognized in that report.  Muscle tech product appear to have it as well. i really don't like artificial sweetners - their taste or health impact. most protein powders have them, I really don't understand how/why health products put that kinda crap in them.

 

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Jesus fuck can we stop with the bro science nonsense? Artificial sweeteners aren’t bad for you. Not even a little.

There’s an equal if not higher amount of lead and other toxins in a lot of foods you consume every damn day.

And lastly, there’s about 130 other things you and the general public need to get in order in their lives before worrying about artificial sweeteners or the amount of lead in your protein powder.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:

Jesus fuck can we stop with the bro science nonsense? Artificial sweeteners aren’t bad for you. Not even a little.

That's just what Big Sugar wants you to believe.

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Posted
43 minutes ago, South Austin said:

That's just what Big Sugar wants you to believe.

First you get the sugar

Then you get the power

Then you get the women

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Herbie Hancock said:

Jesus fuck can we stop with the bro science nonsense? Artificial sweeteners aren’t bad for you. Not even a little.

 

stop with the false dichotomy bullshit. you can not consume lead and not consume artificial sweetners at the same time and of course lead is worse.

 

to your broscience comment - first all of the artificial sweetners taste terrible. second sucralose and others like it are an industrial produced chemical and an ingredient that makes a food an ultra processed food. there are some studies that suggest artificial sweetners can increase inflammation (consistent with other industrially produced chemicals), impact insulin sensitivity, impact intestinal lining and therefore the gut biome, etc. now there are studies to refute that as well, but unsettled science isn't broscience, particularly when the product under study is a for profit man made chemical (not questioning science but I am recognizing where and how studies are funded which often leads to unsettled science).  Furthermore, if you are taking an approach of trying to be extra healthy and focus on as much of a natural foods diet as possible, then there's no reason to consider sucralose and other artificial sweeteners as benign especially with natural sweeteners like monk fruit are available.

And that applies to the protein powder to begin with, natural food sources are much better and the only reason to partake in whey powder to begin with is because it's pretty difficult for many (myself included) to get the protein intake that current science suggests we consume. but frankly with the lead disclosure it may very well be best to suck it up and eat more lean protein and leave the powders and shakes behind.

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29 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:

You’re a fucking moron and you’re not even remotely qualified to have this discussion. You’re going on ignore just like your previous handles.

nice substantive response. I'd love if if you ignored me. thanks.

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2 second google search:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/sugar-substitutes-new-cardiovascular-concerns

 

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The study also identified three artificial sweeteners that appear to be the most problematic. Aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal) was linked to a higher risk of stroke, while acesulfame potassium (Sunnett, Sweet One) and sucralose (Splenda) were associated with higher coronary artery disease risk.

It's not clear why these fake sugars might contribute to cardiovascular problems, says Fung. Some experts postulate that artificial sweeteners may trigger inflammation and alter normal metabolism, the gut microbiome, and blood vessels in ways that promote type 2 diabetes, unhealthy cholesterol levels, and high blood pressure. But these speculations are based on studies in animals or small numbers of people.

 

unsettled science does not mean it's benign and safe. burden of proof should always be on the substance if its not a natural food, not the other way around. 

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2 hours ago, HRSchenker said:

Starting a 72 hour water fast at 7pm tonight. Wish me luck!

I’m sure you know the benefits but make sure you are aware of the risks. Electrolytes are your friend add them to your water, even a pinch of salt can make an huge difference and electrolytes don’t impede the benefits. Study up on the signs that mean you should break early. Take it easy. Good luck. 

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6 hours ago, F250 said:

This thread has gone off the rails, and I am pretty sure scramblyn is Johnny Sacks. 

Fuck that guy. Try again. 
 

the threads that are interrelated got garbled up when imma changed the health thread to help I’m fat and I don’t want to die. It left the general health posts that aren’t about poor health with no where to go. 

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On 10/28/2025 at 9:48 PM, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:

Have we talked peptides here for the olds?
Hearing a lot of chatter about BPC157 and sermorelin.

I’m hearing that too, also about a BPC157 analog called PDA, and another peptide called TB500

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The efficacy of some of these peptides is still to be determined, but it does appear that Retatrutide, TB500 and BPc157 are yielding moderate to significantly positive results.


I will say please be careful where you source your peptides from. It is the Wild West right now as it pertains to oversight and testing of these products and the facilities they’re produced in. I am the last person that will ever advocate more government involvement/oversight in anything, but the ability of just about anyone to put a website up and sell you a powder in a vial is more than a little worrisome. The compounding pharmacies that require a prescription are a hassle and more expensive than these websites that are popping up everywhere, but you also know exactly what you are getting and that it is the concentration they say it is.

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Peptides and the glp-1s intrigue me. The longevity benefits creeping into the literature are what really gets me - neuroprotective, cardio-protective, etc. - apart from the weight loss aspects.

No matter what I do I can’t drop the 20 lbs I need to and obviously we all want faster recovery less muscle soreness and to fight effects of aging including sarcopenia and joint inflammation. Retatrutide looks like an amazing drug, triple agonist, current available treatments are not as comprehensive.  I’m having a hard time understanding how it’s available yet in phase 3 trials but it’s out there supposedly.  I’m pretty sure I may go on a low dose of one of them because that 20lbs is 90% visceral fat.

the other peptides are even more of a black box, most animal trials but the biochem logic is profound, increasing GH and other factors for muscle recovery, growth, repair, anti-inflammation, etc. 

the revolution of healthcare toward preventative and new means of delivery like telehealth and platform based visits and prescriptions where consumers have almost total control is definitely something to behold. 

I am not a scientist but my undergrad degree had a significant hard science component (chem, biochem, nutrition) so I’m pretty good at evaluation and this confluence of democratizing choice and access along with preventative and longevity choices is awesome but hard at times to navigate. 

I feel like I just got a solid grasp on my supplement routine the last year after half assing it for a decade and now this peptide shit (including low dose glp-1) is popping up. 

 

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