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Early returns not looking great but we’ll need to wait to see how this team looks at the end of the season. I don’t like the somewhat obvious coaching failures in this game but maybe Miller will get those figured out as well. 

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Not going to draw too manhy judgements on the play this year, especially during this time of the year, but this loss was really unfortunate for our tourney prospects. Up 10 with 5 minutes to go and lost the lead before the 2:30 mark. 

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Early returns not looking great but we’ll need to wait to see how this team looks at the end of the season. I don’t like the somewhat obvious coaching failures in this game but maybe Miller will get those figured out as well. 
As someone that only caught about 25 minute of the game, can you elaborate a bit? I am thinking you mean coaching this group of players. (I hope you do not mean figure out coaching in general, because he has been a head coach for over 20 years)
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The early roadmap to beat Texas is to press and trap our guards on defense and screen the fuck out of them on offense.  When Traore is in the game just work it inside and get fouls.  We don't have a guard who looks comfortable with the ball in his hands (except maybe Weav, who is more a small forward), which is a giant concern. 

Teams will double and muck it up with Vok (who needs to tamp down the emotions at times) and live or die by our guards outside shooting.  Our front line is solid, though Traore looks like he is new to basketball about 85% of the time.  Our guards are currently probably bottom 1/4 of the SEC level and need a lot of work.

Gaping hole at PG is gonna be a problem all year.

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Miller may need a year to really turn the roster over. I feel like I like our adds better than the holdovers including Weaver - minus Traore I guess who has looked like it's his first time playing basketball both games. 

Mark seems like a lost fucking cause at this point. I don't even want to know what Texas is paying him for this season. 

I actually think this team will need Pope's shot-making I just wish he brought a little bit more to the table outside of that - granted he had a nice game on the glass and was pretty good on D. 

Swain is the bright-spot of the team so far and I liked what I saw from Heide. Wilcher is electric but he can't turn the ball over 5 fucking times. 

Vok has a good player inside of him he just isn't there yet and has a lot of rough possessions on O. 

There's a lot to figure out still. Need to kick the shit out of Chaminade tonight, get that Virginia game at home and see if we can't give UCONN a game before SEC play starts. 

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19 minutes ago, Capn81 said:
32 minutes ago, shadowbanned said:
Early returns not looking great but we’ll need to wait to see how this team looks at the end of the season. I don’t like the somewhat obvious coaching failures in this game but maybe Miller will get those figured out as well. 

As someone that only caught about 25 minute of the game, can you elaborate a bit? I am thinking you mean coaching this group of players. (I hope you do not mean figure out coaching in general, because he has been a head coach for over 20 years)

I just mean the inability to draw up an offensive play to inbound the ball in the half court and not adjusting to how ASU was attacking the paint with the way the refs were calling the game. I mean when Texas started driving the paint in the second half a couple times for points or fouls, ASU makes the adjustment and draws a charge. 

 

Maybe the players just aren’t executing Miller’s plays. I really like our team but we have no PG and no reliable SG. It’s like having 12 guys who would be the 6th man on a really good team. 

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

one more year of terry was a better option

No it wasn’t, and people thinking this are admitting they have no fucking clue.

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11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

No it wasn’t, and people thinking this are admitting they have no fucking clue.

This is true, Terry should have never been hired but I fail to see what excited the powers that be about Miller.  
 

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15 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

This is true, Terry should have never been hired but I fail to see what excited the powers that be about Miller.  
 

Who would have been your choice? I'll hang up and listen. 

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25 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

This is true, Terry should have never been hired but I fail to see what excited the powers that be about Miller.  
 

Well for one thing he has a higher career winning percentage than Chris Beard in and out of conference.

He’s also been to 4 elite eights and 4 sweet sixteens.  The same number as Rick Barnes in 19 fewer years of coaching.

In short, he’s as good as any coach we’ve ever had at Texas in terms of accomplishments.  We weren’t getting a more accomplished coach.  Let the man do his thing.

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26 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

For only the shortest of spans should Swain ever be out of the game. And he should at least touch the ball in most halfcourt sets.

 

There was no one higher that Miller that was coming. 

Oats wasn’t leaving Alabama. TJ wasn’t leaving Iowa State. 

I’m not sure who you realistically thought we were getting. Miller has a huge upside. It was game 6 of his 1st year here. 

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12 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

There was no one higher that Miller that was coming. 

Oats wasn’t leaving Alabama. TJ wasn’t leaving Iowa State. 

I’m not sure who you realistically thought we were getting. Miller has a huge upside. It was game 6 of his 1st year here. 

I'm not the one questioning the hire. 

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miller was probably the best we could get, but that doesn’t make him an exciting hire. he would have been an exciting hire 10 years ago, back when he looked like one of the best coaches in america, but ever since he got busted cheating and the playing field was leveled re: paying players he’s been good-not-great.

pretty much all of his success came 10+ years ago when he was cheating, and he’s made it out of the first round once since 2017. his last six teams at arizona finished ranked 19, 18, 28, 94, 19, and 29 in kenpom. his xavier teams finished ranked 15, 56, and 43. that’s one top 15 finish in almost a decade. he’s beaten his preseason kenpom rating 3 times in 9 tries since 2015. yeah, when you use his entire career resume to paint a picture of who he is he looks pretty good. but if you focus on the last decade then there’s really nothing there that says that we should expect him to equal or surpass the levels of barnes and beard at Texas. i’ve always felt that he’s going to be better than shaka and RT, but that he’ll ultimately disappointingly short of reaching any new heights, or even matching old ones.

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36 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

I'm not the one questioning the hire. 

Yeah, I don’t know why I quoted you. I was trying to do 3 things at once

 

 

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Well, my DVR timed out so I (fortunately?) missed the last minute.

I don't see it as a lost cause this season.  I like the fact that we have a legit post player, we can hit layups (except that one late, oof) and we play hard.  The lack of a PG is glaring.  But, we're big and can kinda shoot, so I'll hang up and listen.

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we cannot shoot. national ranks:

eFG%- 53% (123rd)

3p%- 30.6% (255th)

ft%- 66.9 (282nd)

we’ve got no pg, no shooters, and no honorable mention all conference caliber big men. we’ve got swain and a bunch of disjointed “meh”. we turn the ball over too easily (we rank 299th in non-stl TO%). we also don’t force TO’s (286th defensively in non-stl TO%, 280th in stl%). 

make no mistake about it: this is either a middling team (NIT bound) that’s off to a bad start, or a bad team that’s off to a bad start. this has not been an encouraging first six games. it’s going to be a long season.

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34 minutes ago, Derka said:

we cannot shoot. national ranks:

eFG%- 53% (123rd)

3p%- 30.6% (255th)

ft%- 66.9 (282nd)

we’ve got no pg, no shooters, and no honorable mention all conference caliber big men. we’ve got swain and a bunch of disjointed “meh”. we turn the ball over too easily (we rank 299th in non-stl TO%). we also don’t force TO’s (286th defensively in non-stl TO%, 280th in stl%). 

make no mistake about it: this is either a middling team (NIT bound) that’s off to a bad start, or a bad team that’s off to a bad start. this has not been an encouraging first six games. it’s going to be a long season.

they pressed but not extremely hard IMO and we were sketchy even handling that.  the constant whistles hurt us from running and Miller definitely got outcoached by Hurley.  we let 1.5 ASU players beat us.

same old story on no shooters at Texas.  

Wilcher seems like the new and bigger version of Weaver.  I'd play him a lot, if we are going to take good with bad anyway.

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