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My router is a few years old, and lately the internet connection disconnects periodically, which means I have to run upstairs, unplug it, and plug it back in. There's no rhyme or reason for when it happens. I don't think it's the cable modem either, so since I don't know the first thing about how to fix it, what kind of router should I get? Best Buy has some that range from about 50 to 500 and a few that look like they came out of a Batman movie.

 

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Have you tried upgrading the firmware on the router?  That may fix your issue.  I would try it before replacing it anyway.

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Brand / Model?
I'll check when I get home, I know it's a Netgear but that's about it

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The cheap shit is ass, my dude.  Get something above $150 and has good review on amazon.  Google wifi, netgear orbi, old apple airport lineup (discontinued), or for standalone the more expensive Asus stuff is the best ive used.

 

all the cheap 50-100$ tplink, linksys, netgear, whatever shit ive used have all been trash

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Here's a protip.  Instead of unplugging it, log into it and "accept" or "test" the settings.  That will restart it without you having to go anywhere.

Can use routerlogin.net or 192.168,1,1/admin

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1 hour ago, 52-80 said:

The cheap shit is ass, my dude.  Get something above $150 and has good review on amazon.  Google wifi, netgear orbi, old apple airport lineup (discontinued), or for standalone the more expensive Asus stuff is the best ive used.

 

all the cheap 50-100$ tplink, linksys, netgear, whatever shit ive used have all been trash

How so?  Do you avoid the eventual need to reboot them near-daily?  Better coverage?  Faster?

My old WNDR3400/N600 Netgear has been mostly fine, gives good coverage, and reports the full 40GB/s of our intergoogles.  But for several years now has needed the routine reboot.

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

How so?  Do you avoid the eventual need to reboot them near-daily?  Better coverage?  Faster?

My old WNDR3400/N600 Netgear has been mostly fine, gives good coverage, and reports the full 40GB/s of our intergoogles.  But for several years now has needed the routine reboot.

Exactly.  Remember back in the Windows 98, 2000, XP days when the computer ran mostly good, even perfect, for days or weeks....but then it'd lag and would need a manual reboot, if it didn't crash and reboot itself.  And today you just open and close your laptop without giving it a 2nd thought.

The Asus is the first set it and forget router I've had.  I could move terabytes of data across multiple devices and it wouldn't trip it off.

Being faster with stronger signal is just a consequence of newer standards, improved technology, and modern design.  But the stability and reliability is what I enjoy the most.

 

It's possible all devices today have equally advanced and work just as well, but I don't regret paying just a bit more, to not have to find out

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That should read MB/s, not GB/s.

Have any specific recos?  I think mesh would be overkill, though we have a big house (not for much longer).

The ones over $150 seem to be loaded with features we don't (currently) need.  Two person household with occasional guest.  No gaming to speak of.  Rarely even multiple streams of anything and what of that we do is handled by the eight year old N600 adequately.

If your theory about improvements is correct (the w95/98 analogy seems plausible to me), it would seem that just getting a more modern one, a Nighthawk or Archer, might solve the restart problem, and you acknowledge that possibility.

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2 hours ago, 52-80 said:

The cheap shit is ass, my dude.  Get something above $150 and has good review on amazon.  Google wifi, netgear orbi, old apple airport lineup (discontinued), or for standalone the more expensive Asus stuff is the best ive used.

 

all the cheap 50-100$ tplink, linksys, netgear, whatever shit ive used have all been trash

Amen to this, my cheap Linksys has been a constant PITA.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

That should read MB/s, not GB/s.

Have any specific recos?  I think mesh would be overkill, though we have a big house (not for much longer).

The ones over $150 seem to be loaded with features we don't (currently) need.  Two person household with occasional guest.  No gaming to speak of.  Rarely even multiple streams of anything and what of that we do is handled by the eight year old N600 adequately.

If your theory about improvements is correct (the w95/98 analogy seems plausible to me), it would seem that just getting a more modern one, a Nighthawk or Archer, might solve the restart problem, and you acknowledge that possibility.

Mesh is overkill if you dont have a large sq_ft you need to cover.  With a smaller footprint, a single beefy router providers higher top end for the dollar. 

802.11ax = Wifi 6 = unecessary as its not widely supported yet.  RT-AC68U is a good one for no frills

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Big ASUS fan.

Additionally, you can set up a mesh network with them through firmware updates if you ever want to. They also have a GUI sample online you can play with.

That’s all I will buy. And you can also set up up to nine different ssid’s. Ex:
2.4 home
5 home
2.4 media
2.4 security
5 kids
5 iot devices

Etc.


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You do still have to reboot the Asus routers from time to time.  I like them though.  They are easy to setup and work with.

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Completely power down both modem and router for a few minutes. Unplug the cables. Dust the router and modem. Make sure their vents are not obstructed. After they've been plugged back in for some time, listen to see if the fans are still working (if they have them). Try a different cable between modem and router. (I recently doubled my speed and eliminated drops after replacing a bad cable.) If none of this works, have a tech come out to your house to see if the wiring to the house is still good.

I replaced that bad cable only after buying a new modem. That was my big mistake.

Anyway, my place is small enough and my internet slow enough (200 mb/s) that a dual-N router was fine. So I purchased a Netgear Nighthawk R6700. No heavy gaming online, but we have two adults and a teenager that may be streaming video and constantly browsing the internet with no bandwidth problems. After replacing the bad cable, it has been rock-solid.

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Grabbed a TP-Link 
AC2300 MU-MIMO
Gigabit Router for $50. Think I got a great deal based on the reviews but havent hooked it up yet. 
Where did you find that?

Anyone have anything with av/threat protection built-in.

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It was listed for $79.00 on EBAY as new in box and had the option for “or best offer”. I offered $50 and they accepted in 5 mins. 
 

I got the price from searching slickdeals and seeing Walmart previously has them for $54 new on shelf. 
 

*was a retailer not private seller

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So what about the combo modem/router they give you? That is like 12 bucks a month, but I am better off using my own router, just for quality purposes, correct? 

I'm wondering if I should just get my own modem too, but will they "troubleshoot" that if something goes wrong with the service and it's my equipment? 

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7 hours ago, BBQ2Bayou said:

So what about the combo modem/router they give you? That is like 12 bucks a month, but I am better off using my own router, just for quality purposes, correct? 

I'm wondering if I should just get my own modem too, but will they "troubleshoot" that if something goes wrong with the service and it's my equipment? 

Get your own modem and a separate router.  They will tell you if you're getting a signal to the modem.  I think they'll tell you if the think the modem is an issue.  But if unplugging/replugging the power on the modem doesn't get you all blue lights, it's probably something on their end.  Just make sure the modem supports the speeds you're paying for.

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1 hour ago, dcbc said:

Get your own modem and a separate router.  They will tell you if you're getting a signal to the modem.  I think they'll tell you if the think the modem is an issue.  But if unplugging/replugging the power on the modem doesn't get you all blue lights, it's probably something on their end.  Just make sure the modem supports the speeds you're paying for.

That's what I ended up doing. They said I had to get the docsis 3.1 so I should be covered.

They probably lied to me because those are a lot more expensive than the 3.0 and wanted me to rent. 

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4 minutes ago, BBQ2Bayou said:

That's what I ended up doing. They said I had to get the docsis 3.1 so I should be covered.

They probably lied to me because those are a lot more expensive than the 3.0 and wanted me to rent. 

Can't tell you a thing about that one.  I got an Arris Surfboard and it's been pretty solid.

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On 6/27/2020 at 9:39 PM, BBQ2Bayou said:

That's what I ended up doing. They said I had to get the docsis 3.1 so I should be covered.

They probably lied to me because those are a lot more expensive than the 3.0 and wanted me to rent. 

Just an FYI.  The Surfboard SB6190 docsis 3.1 uses the PUMA 6 chipset which is absolute trash.  If you game with this modem, you're going to experience ping issues out the wazoo. 

I use the SB6183 and it works like a charm.

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58 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

 

Just an FYI.  The Surfboard SB6190 docsis 3.1 uses the PUMA 6 chipset which is absolute trash.  If you game with this modem, you're going to experience ping issues out the wazoo. 

I use the SB6183 and it works like a charm.

Thanks. I don't know shit about chipsets. I read a bunch of reviews and saw the SB on there, but not sure which one. I ended up going with a NETGEAR CM1000.- 32 x 8 DOCSIS 3.1. 

A bunch of those 3.1 were out of stock. Is that a new OS, or whatever docsis is considered? I saw it was backward compatible, but don't know any other differences. 

 

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Yes, 3.1 is newer. However, if you’re not using it as a gaming modem, you shouldn’t really have an issue. If I’m not mistaken, there’s a class action lawsuit going on regarding the PUMA 6 chipsets that will cause manufacturers to change it due to false advertising. I may be wrong though.

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