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32 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

I find it laughable you think politics trumps economics.

where the fuck did you get that from?  economic policy is still politics. you can't divorce it.

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47 minutes ago, elfenix said:

where the fuck did you get that from?  economic policy is still politics. you can't divorce it.

We are speaking on two totally different planes. You seem to think power and wealth are generated by the federal and Texas governments. I believe they can have slight adverse and beneficial impacts, but Trump and Abbott have very, very little impact on our economy. The economy as a whole is much stronger arbiter of wealth and power than any political entity. You seem to think the opposite. Which is fucking hilarious. 

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10 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

We are speaking on two totally different planes. You seem to think power and wealth are generated by the federal and Texas governments. I believe they can have slight adverse and beneficial impacts, but Trump and Abbott have very, very little impact on our economy. The economy as a whole is much stronger arbiter of wealth and power than any political entity. You seem to think the opposite. Which is fucking hilarious. 

dude the discussion was about reopening.  which is a policy decision.  about the economy.  you're going off on some tangent and making vast assumptions about me instead of just admitting you should be posting in the cloakroom. 

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18 hours ago, Captainant said:

Politics are necessarily unavoidable in discussing current events and today's news. COVID, nascar nooses, police brutality, confederate memorials? Not sure how you avoid politics when the president is actively taking a side and participating in the bad faith and false arguments

And right wing posters haven't co-opted DT into an active propoganda machine, but y'all whine and cry whenever someone links a cause or source to our current situation. And actively push out and discourage even mentioning anything around the decision makers whose decisions put us where we are and are keeping us here.

You're burying your head in the sand and acting like anyone paying attention is a partisan

 

Bullshit. 

Every single one of those topics you brought up could have a million posts that has nothing to do with politics. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

One example- COVID- I understand the need for shelter in place, social distancing, washing hands, etc. while also understand why those that want the restrictions lifted for fear of the long term effect to the economy (in many cases to their own business).
 

Those are 100% both opinions that are valid and neither is political. See how easy that is? I can actually understand (GASP) both sides.   

 

16 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

 When you think everything is political you have issues with reality, and probably several layers of tin foil on yer balls.

 

And Onboard is 100% correct. What you fail to realize is you (and plenty of others on the other side) make it a habit of taking a topic or a post that has nothing to do with politics and making it ALL about politics. That is a YOU problem. It never ends. the circle jerk of blaming the other side was going on well before the day Trump was elected and will continue far longer then the day he is no longer the POTUS.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, HoffaJimmy said:

 When you think everything is political you have issues with reality, and probably several layers of tin foil on yer balls.

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." ~Plato

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1 minute ago, washparkhorn said:

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." ~Plato

It’s funny; what does the modern day American politician truly think they are governing?  It’s funny watching Elizabeth Warren grandstand Jamie Dimon and then have Dimon totally ignore everything she just said. Clay Jenkins and Greg Abbott have very little power when not in times of crisis. I don’t want to be overly governed. Don’t get me started on the assclowns in Dallas city and county government. Hell, Austinites are about to elect an attention whore who showed her tits to all of us to city council and has the biggest joke of a mayor in the country. 

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16 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." ~Plato

“Arguing politics on an anonymous internet message board in the wrong forum makes you a dipshit” - Socrates 

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4 hours ago, Hate said:

You’re right. I’ll shoulder the blame for the Coronas. My bad. I’ll start hanging on every word since it’s made such a difference in your life. Remember how when you argued in the CR the Cheeto man was bad and he killed all the people with the ronas and as a result the ronas went away?? That was awesome.

When you sit there silently with your thumb up your ass as the science deniers in charge let a plague bring ruin to our country you're part of the problem and it's as simple as that.

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10 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

“Arguing politics on an anonymous internet message board in the wrong forum makes you a dipshit” - Socrates 

“Anything is a dildo if you’re brave enough.” - Abraham Lincoln

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2 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

When you sit there silently with your thumb up your ass as the science deniers in charge let a plague bring ruin to our country you're part of the problem and it's as simple as that.

So do these science deniers deny all science?

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When you sit there silently with your thumb up your ass as the science deniers in charge let a plague bring ruin to our country you're part of the problem and it's as simple as that.

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Remember when y’all were all bitching about the Cheeto man in the Cloakroom and then everything changed. That was awesome.

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2 minutes ago, Hate said:


Don't make me think about stuff other than football and beer and women with big fake tits! Murica!

 

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6 minutes ago, Hate said:

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Remember when y’all were all bitch in about the Cheeto man in the Cloakroom and then everything changed. That was awesome.

Big changes happen when you bitch all day about politics on the internet and at home.  Usually the changes are loss of friends, divorces, and/or drinking heavily.

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58 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

When you sit there silently with your thumb up your ass as the science deniers in charge let a plague bring ruin to our country you're part of the problem and it's as simple as that.

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1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

So do these science deniers deny all science?

All science is good, as long as the funding is sincere.

The science on CV-19 has changed 75X since March, but the fools who question it are the problem... and the politicians who will not abide by our selected science are dumbasses and meanies.

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1 hour ago, Dr. Beeper said:

It’s funny; what does the modern day American politician truly think they are governing?  It’s funny watching Elizabeth Warren grandstand Jamie Dimon and then have Dimon totally ignore everything she just said. Clay Jenkins and Greg Abbott have very little power when not in times of crisis. I don’t want to be overly governed. Don’t get me started on the assclowns in Dallas city and county government. Hell, Austinites are about to elect an attention whore who showed her tits to all of us to city council and has the biggest joke of a mayor in the country. 

And that is the dilemma in a nutshell. Politics pervades almost every aspect of life as a modern American.

Economic policy? Pure politics. 

Industrial policy? Politics.

5G? Politics.

Schooling? Politics. 

Pandemic? Politics.

To have or not have a football season? Politics. . . . 

I appreciate the effort to keep politics out of the DT. I always considered it a spinoff of the old Quacks. But it is more a Cactus Cafe for many who never ventured into Quacks. We could use a new Quacks for more serious discussions of the human condition.

DT is a bunch of old men screaming at the moon - nothing wrong with that, of course. I do it myself from time to time. I understand that need for that type of space and have endeavored to honor it. 

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32 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

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I know this is hard for you to wrap your brain around, but some people actually do care about and have empathy for others. They don't act nice to get something they want, but rather because it's the right thing to do. That's all. I'm sure it's easier for you to process what i'm saying as some guy who just wants to be right on the internet, but it's real. I really care and i don't want everyone catching covid.

 

But sure, continue to enable a president who's views align more with a guy like Tim McVeigh than any sort of actual conservative values with your hilarious memes. Keep writing off people who actually care as having some sort of hidden agenda.

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1 hour ago, washparkhorn said:

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." ~Plato

Oooh quotes, I'll play. "Yabba Dabba Doo" Frederick Flintstone.

Politics isn't a 24/7 all encompassing thing to people just trying to live their lives.  There are people who want it all to be about politics because they have nothing else in their lives.

 

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1 minute ago, Pam Cummings said:

I know this is hard for you to wrap your brain around, but some people actually do care about and have empathy for others. They don't act nice to get something they want, but rather because it's the right thing to do. That's all. I'm sure it's easier for you to process what i'm saying as some guy who just wants to be right on the internet, but it's real. I really care and i don't want everyone catching covid.

 

But sure, continue to enable a president who's views align more with a guy like Tim McVeigh than any sort of actual conservative values with your hilarious memes. Keep writing off people who actually care as having some sort of gidden agenda.

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I have nothing else in my life right now because people in charge have made sure that all of those activities are dangerous to do right now. So, fuck you.

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5 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

And that is the dilemma in a nutshell. Politics pervades almost every aspect of life as a modern American.

Economic policy? Pure politics. 

Industrial policy? Politics.

5G? Politics.

Schooling? Politics. 

Pandemic? Politics.

To have or not have a football season? Politics. . . . 

I appreciate the effort to keep politics out of the DT. I always considered it a spinoff of the old Quacks. But it is more a Cactus Cafe for many who never ventured into Quacks. We could use a new Quacks for more serious discussions of the human condition.

DT is a bunch of old men screaming at the moon - nothing wrong with that, of course. I do it myself from time to time. I understand that need for that type of space and have endeavored to honor it. 

Politics has very little bearing on my industries. It has very little bearing on most industry. It’s pervasive if you want it to be. If you want to actually accomplish something, politics won’t stop you. If you want to talk and chat until you’re blue in the face, politics is your game. 

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Just now, Dr. Beeper said:

Politics has very little bearing on my industries. 

I seriously doubt that is accurate unless you live in Albania. 

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2 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

I have nothing else in my life right now because people in charge have made sure that all of those activities are dangerous to do right now. So, fuck you.

Ah yes. Fuck me. Now you've convinced me that you're argument is correct. I succumb to your superior intellect. 

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14 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

And that is the dilemma in a nutshell. Politics pervades almost every aspect of life as a modern American.

Economic policy? Pure politics. 

Industrial policy? Politics.

5G? Politics.

Schooling? Politics. 

Pandemic? Politics.

To have or not have a football season? Politics. . . . 

I appreciate the effort to keep politics out of the DT. I always considered it a spinoff of the old Quacks. But it is more a Cactus Cafe for many who never ventured into Quacks. We could use a new Quacks for more serious discussions of the human condition.

DT is a bunch of old men screaming at the moon - nothing wrong with that, of course. I do it myself from time to time. I understand that need for that type of space and have endeavored to honor it. 

What happened to "science deniers" are they now old men?

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2 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

I seriously doubt that is accurate unless you live in Albania. 

It’s absolutely accurate. Now are there periods where politics have more of a say in the direction of the business?  Sure. In the vast majority of years, do political decisions make or break my year?  Absolutely not. 

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1 minute ago, Dr. Beeper said:

It’s absolutely accurate. Now are there periods where politics have more of a say in the direction of the business?  Sure. In the vast majority of years, do political decisions make or break my year?  Absolutely not. 

What industry?

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I have nothing else in my life right now because people in charge have made sure that all of those activities are dangerous to do right now. So, fuck you.

Ok. Vent about it in the Cloakroom. Is that so difficult?

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1 minute ago, Pam Cummings said:

Latex.

The sex industry is highly political. Jerry Falwell could have shut it down (had he not been a prolific consumer).

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So to clarify after reading four pages of this shit, even though I am very politically active in my personal/private life (in at least half a dozen ways), I am not allowed to come to this board for a refuge or an escape.

So unless I acknowledge and agree with Cheeto man bad and sucks and is destroying America/lives in every thread I am somehow an enabler of Trump?

Even though everything I do outside of this board absolutely says otherwise. I can’t come to this board and enjoy an escape because some have TDS so bad they probably bring it up at home 24/7 they have to take every topic and mention their hatred of Trump? 

A lot of people sat on their damn hands last election. Go take it up with them. According to Oprah and Michelle Obama and a few other prominent black politicians and leaders: many blacks CHOSE not to vote for Hillary.  Take it up with the people who sat on their hands and did not vote. When you are down there protesting (assuming you do) ask how many of these people voted in 2016 if they were eligible. If they say no, follow them home and sit on their front law with a megaphone and bug the shit out of them until they vote the way you want them to. 
 

I hate going on rants but I’ve about fucking had it. I come here for  sports and to laugh. Occasionally to get better weather forecasts than I would on the news. Fuck!!!!!!

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1 minute ago, Hate said:


Ok. Vent about it in the Cloakroom. Is that so difficult?

Evidently. They don't realize how silly they are proselytizing to people who aren't listening. They are standing on their soap box preaching and no one's listening.

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3 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

So to clarify after reading four pages of this shit, even though I am very politically active in my personal/private life (in at least half a dozen ways), I am not allowed to come to this board for a refuge or an escape.

So unless I acknowledge and agree with Cheeto man bad and sucks and is destroying America/lives in every thread I am somehow an enabler of Trump?

Even though everything I do outside of this board absolutely says otherwise. I can’t come to this board and enjoy an escape because some have TDS so bad they probably bring it up at home 24/7 they have to take every topic and mention their hatred of Trump? 

A lot of people sat on their damn hands last election. Go take it up with them. According to Oprah and Michelle Obama and a few other prominent black politicians and leaders: many blacks CHOSE not to vote for Hillary.  Take it up with the people who sat on their hands and did not vote. When you are down there protesting (assuming you do) ask how many of these people voted in 2016 if they were eligible. If they say no, follow them home and sit on their front law with a megaphone and bug the shit out of them until they vote the way you want them to. 
 

I hate going on rants but I’ve about fucking had it. I come here for  sports and to laugh. Occasionally to get better weather forecasts than I would on the news. Fuck!!!!!!

If you want to laugh, acquire a brain and read Nicole44’s posts 

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This thread is an abortion.  Uh oh.  I just brought politics into it.

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3 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

So to clarify after reading four pages of this shit, even though I am very politically active in my personal/private life (in at least half a dozen ways), I am not allowed to come to this board for a refuge or an escape.

So unless I acknowledge and agree with Cheeto man bad and sucks and is destroying America/lives in every thread I am somehow an enabler of Trump?

Even though everything I do outside of this board absolutely says otherwise. I can’t come to this board and enjoy an escape because some have TDS so bad they probably bring it up at home 24/7 they have to take every topic and mention their hatred of Trump? 

A lot of people sat on their damn hands last election. Go take it up with them. According to Oprah and Michelle Obama and a few other prominent black politicians and leaders: many blacks CHOSE not to vote for Hillary.  Take it up with the people who sat on their hands and did not vote. When you are down there protesting (assuming you do) ask how many of these people voted in 2016 if they were eligible. If they say no, follow them home and sit on their front law with a megaphone and bug the shit out of them until they vote the way you want them to. 
 

I hate going on rants but I’ve about fucking had it. I come here for  sports and to laugh. Occasionally to get better weather forecasts than I would on the news. Fuck!!!!!!

I agree with you. Cactus/DT = drinking at a bar with buds.  

CR = partisan/tribal politics.  

Quacks/( ? here) = The human condition/philosophy/economics discussions. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

If you want to laugh, acquire a brain and read Nicole44’s posts 

Other than that one in DT recently...mostly my posts aren’t that bad (for those who don’t have me on ignore). Lol. 

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14 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This thread is an abortion.  Uh oh.  I just brought politics into it.

Some people need Jesus. 

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45 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

So to clarify after reading four pages of this shit, even though I am very politically active in my personal/private life (in at least half a dozen ways), I am not allowed to come to this board for a refuge or an escape.

So unless I acknowledge and agree with Cheeto man bad and sucks and is destroying America/lives in every thread I am somehow an enabler of Trump?

Even though everything I do outside of this board absolutely says otherwise. I can’t come to this board and enjoy an escape because some have TDS so bad they probably bring it up at home 24/7 they have to take every topic and mention their hatred of Trump? 

A lot of people sat on their damn hands last election. Go take it up with them. According to Oprah and Michelle Obama and a few other prominent black politicians and leaders: many blacks CHOSE not to vote for Hillary.  Take it up with the people who sat on their hands and did not vote. When you are down there protesting (assuming you do) ask how many of these people voted in 2016 if they were eligible. If they say no, follow them home and sit on their front law with a megaphone and bug the shit out of them until they vote the way you want them to. 
 

I hate going on rants but I’ve about fucking had it. I come here for  sports and to laugh. Occasionally to get better weather forecasts than I would on the news. Fuck!!!!!!

Haven't you heard ?  EVERYTHING is politics... that is everything they believe is politics. Lonely, empty lives, standing in the corner at parties,  if they even get invited to parties.

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5 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Lonely empty lives, standing in the corner at parties,  if they even get invited to parties.

Projection. Stridency is unattractive. 

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7 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Projection. Stridency is unattractive. 

So is the BS the cabal pulls here daily. People simply don't want hear theories or anybodies political shit outside the CR, but they believe they have some unique insight.  

 

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4 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

So is the BS the cabal pulls here daily. People simply don't want hear theories or anybodies political shit outside the CR, but they believe they have some unique insight.  

 

Is the Cabal the same folks I call the Praetorian Guard? They are harmless - and largely apolitical past the surface sneering. 

(No offense to any member of the Cabal/Praetorian Guard intended). 

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Just now, washparkhorn said:

Is the Cabal the same folks I call the Praetorian Guard? They are harmless - and largely apolitical past the surface sneering. 

(No offense to any member of the Cabal/Praetorian Guard intended). 

Probably. Of course they're harmless, they're anonymous people on a website.

The whole everything is politics schtick is about as lame an excuse as you can use to not be able to discuss something without (team) politics being the driver of your posts.

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53 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

I agree with you. Cactus/DT = drinking at a bar with buds.  

CR = partisan/tribal politics.  

Quacks/( ? here) = The human condition/philosophy/economics discussions. 

 

I think DT *can* be for serious philosophical discussions. It was definitely like that on shaggy, and it is here every now and again. I think people are just too on edge to allow for much of that these days, unfortunately.

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