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On 3/29/2020 at 7:34 PM, jdhorn92 said:

I think this has been discussed, but AL, MS, KY, SC and all the SEC states (less UF)  all have very small markets and they are the biggest needle-movers with TV ratings.  I dont think this next round will be as tied to TV markets as in the past.  Throw in the cord cutting and i think the above graphic is a very dated way to approach realignment partners.  If you play great football, the TV viewers will find you, something the B12 and Pac have failed to do the last decade.

If, there was a revamp/ remake (due to end of GoR's) for PAC-2023 & XII-2024, I'd imagine a "core group" from both divisions:

East -
Iowa State [AAU]
Kansas [AAU]
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas [AAU]
Texas Tech
TCU

West -
Washington [AAU]
Oregon [AAU]
California [AAU]
Stanford [AAU]
UCLA [AAU]
USC [AAU]
Arizona [AAU]

That's 14 slots filled, Colorado [AAU] would be a bridge between both leagues footprint, & current/former foe of USC/UCLA/Oklahoma/Texas...
1 slot for Arizona State/ Utah [AAU]/ Kansas State & Baylor- WVU not included due to distance- Washington St./ Oregon St. out of new league ...

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Having been informed by an SEC representative (some dude on the internet) that, having last option and being last to act(fully owned by ESPN into 2030's), if the SEC were to ever add G5 teams they would prefer UC, ECU and USF. They probably just stay at 14 for a while but if things ever changed and it made sense for them to make a couple adds in highly valuable territory, and UC was already in B1G I have been informed they would look at USF and ECU. 

 

 

SEC

West

LSU
aTm
Missouri
Ark

North

UK
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
ECU

South

Bama
AU
Ole Miss
Miss St

East

UGA
FL
SC
USF
 

 

 

 

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The Pac-12 GOR expire at the end of 2023, while the Big 12 expires in June of 2025.

I think the way this goes is that the Pac-12 gets a new deal with the idea that behind the scenes, the networks know the Pac will get the Texomakan 6 and move to be the Pac-18. Three time zones, big names in Texas, OU, and KU (hoops), and Pac gets two AAU institutions in UT and KU. It also keeps the lawsuits from Baylor from really ever getting off the ground because they were not invited, most likely because of religious reasons (see BYU) that don't mesh with the liberal views of the West Coast.

Iowa State and WVU join the AAC, while TCU and Baylor join the MWC.  

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7 minutes ago, JWinTX said:

The Pac-12 GOR expire at the end of 2023, while the Big 12 expires in June of 2025.

I think the way this goes is that the Pac-12 gets a new deal with the idea that behind the scenes, the networks know the Pac will get the Texomakan 6 and move to be the Pac-18. Three time zones, big names in Texas, OU, and KU (hoops), and Pac gets two AAU institutions in UT and KU. It also keeps the lawsuits from Baylor from really ever getting off the ground because they were not invited, most likely because of religious reasons (see BYU) that don't mesh with the liberal views of the West Coast.

Iowa State and WVU join the AAC, while TCU and Baylor join the MWC.  

 

 

 

It seems very unlikely that the Pac schools will be signing anything ever again. 

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2 hours ago, JWinTX said:

The Pac-12 GOR expire at the end of 2023, while the Big 12 expires in June of 2025.

I think the way this goes is that the Pac-12 gets a new deal with the idea that behind the scenes, the networks know the Pac will get the Texomakan 6 and move to be the Pac-18. Three time zones, big names in Texas, OU, and KU (hoops), and Pac gets two AAU institutions in UT and KU. It also keeps the lawsuits from Baylor from really ever getting off the ground because they were not invited, most likely because of religious reasons (see BYU) that don't mesh with the liberal views of the West Coast.

Iowa State and WVU join the AAC, while TCU and Baylor join the MWC.  

They could take a 3rd AAU and increase the footprint (if you're into that sort of thing), add a burgeoning / established western program (you pick) and bingo bango...Pac XX!

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4 hours ago, JWinTX said:

The Pac-12 GOR expire at the end of 2023, while the Big 12 expires in June of 2025.

I think the way this goes is that the Pac-12 gets a new deal with the idea that behind the scenes, the networks know the Pac will get the Texomakan 6 and move to be the Pac-18. Three time zones, big names in Texas, OU, and KU (hoops), and Pac gets two AAU institutions in UT and KU. It also keeps the lawsuits from Baylor from really ever getting off the ground because they were not invited, most likely because of religious reasons (see BYU) that don't mesh with the liberal views of the West Coast.

Iowa State and WVU join the AAC, while TCU and Baylor join the MWC.  

Incorrect...

GoR's by conference:

B1G - 2023 - Will get the chance to "set the bar" or at least, "hope to catch up (somewhat) with SEC pay" in 2023...
PAC - 2024 - The most unstable league, as USC/ UCLA trail Texas & OU by about $20 million per year in tv revenue...
XII - 2025 - With GoR's ending just within a 12 moth span of PAC, XII has chance to add the best PAC brands to XII...
SEC - 2035 - Already with increase in going all in with ESPN (leaving CBS), payments to $65 million starting in 2023...
ACC - 2037 - Well, at least the conference doesn't need to hope for another league to be gutted, to save ACC (until 2037)...

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47 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

Incorrect...

GoR's by conference:

B1G - 2023 - Will get the chance to "set the bar" or at least, "hope to catch up (somewhat) with SEC pay" in 2023...
PAC - 2024 - The most unstable league, as USC/ UCLA trail Texas & OU by about $20 million per year in tv revenue...
XII - 2025 - With GoR's ending just within a 12 moth span of PAC, XII has chance to add the best PAC brands to XII...
SEC - 2035 - Already with increase in going all in with ESPN (leaving CBS), payments to $65 million starting in 2023...
ACC - 2037 - Well, at least the conference doesn't need to hope for another league to be gutted, to save ACC (until 2037)...

The B1G's grant of rights is far longer than 2023.   Its in the 2030s for BTN, like the SEC and ACC have for their channels.   What comes due in 2023 is their T1 and T2 rights with Disney/Fox.   

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8 hours ago, JWinTX said:

The Pac-12 GOR expire at the end of 2023, while the Big 12 expires in June of 2025.

I think the way this goes is that the Pac-12 gets a new deal with the idea that behind the scenes, the networks know the Pac will get the Texomakan 6 and move to be the Pac-18. Three time zones, big names in Texas, OU, and KU (hoops), and Pac gets two AAU institutions in UT and KU. It also keeps the lawsuits from Baylor from really ever getting off the ground because they were not invited, most likely because of religious reasons (see BYU) that don't mesh with the liberal views of the West Coast.

Iowa State and WVU join the AAC, while TCU and Baylor join the MWC.  

Would not baylor be the Harvey Weinstein of any conference? 

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